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So much baloney, so few new threads we have to start....

When all else fails...

U.S. Preparing a Military Response to Coming Social Chaos

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As the shocking confidential information contained in this briefing shows, the threat of social meltdown and chaos is so large a domestic law-enforcement arm of the U.S. military (referred to by The Army Times as the "Consequence Management Response Force") has been created to deal with what U.S. officials believe to be a coming, unprecedented wave of massive social chaos.

Later I'll show you why many Washington insiders (including officials directly involved in homeland security) are personally making emergency preparations for social chaos. In addition, outgoing Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson told Sen. James Inhofe and Rep. Brad Sherman that so much financial mayhem lies ahead U.S. troops may have to impose martial law to deal with social unrest.

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The GOP is mailing this to GOP loyalists


At least liberals are smart enough to keep these wackos in 9/11 threads...

:lmao that 9/11 thread cracks me up.

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Originally Posted by Nbadan

So much baloney, so few new threads we have to start....

When all else fails...

U.S. Preparing a Military Response to Coming Social Chaos



The GOP is mailing this to GOP loyalists


At least liberals are smart enough to keep these wackos in 9/11 threads...

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didn't someone just kill three cops because he was convinced Obama was going to take his guns?

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

didn't someone just kill three cops because he was convinced Obama was going to take his guns?

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What about that whacked out Senator?

Talk radio isn't dangerous at all....

This shit happens and my liberal ass is signing up for the Marines. Fuck killing Iraqis, but if Republicans wanna start some shit, sign me up and get me an M16 stat.

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Originally Posted by ballijuana

This shit happens and my liberal ass is signing up for the Marines. Fuck killing Iraqis, but if Republicans wanna start some shit, sign me up and get me an M16 stat.

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:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

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Originally Posted by ballijuana

This shit happens and my liberal ass is signing up for the Marines. Fuck killing Iraqis, but if Republicans wanna start some shit, sign me up and get me an M16 stat.

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can't we just round them up and place them in concentration camps?

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Originally Posted by Nbadan

The GOP is mailing this to GOP loyalists


At least liberals are smart enough to keep these wackos in 9/11 threads...

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...I dont need a mailer to know whats coming.

It is coming. Question is when.

I dont think soon. I dont think in 20 years even. But it is coming. The divide between those who have and those who do not is only increasing. At some point, too much becomes too much.

Sean Hannity is number one on my list.

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Originally Posted by ballijuana

This shit happens and my liberal ass is signing up for the Marines. Fuck killing Iraqis, but if Republicants/Conservatives/Traditional Conservatives/Libertarians/Anarcho-capitalists/minarchists/etc want some , sign me up and get me an M16 stat.

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Sounds good :toast

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Originally Posted by ballijuana

This shit happens and my liberal ass is signing up for the Marines. Fuck killing Iraqis, but if Republicans wanna start some shit, sign me up and get me an M16 stat.

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Yes, something very ugly has surfaced in contemporary American liberalism, as evidenced by the irrational and sometimes infantile abuse directed toward anyone who strays from a strict party line




Aren't you the tough guy who was calling some woman a "cunt". I think you'll needs some balls as well as an M16

Apparently crookshank's troll doesn't have me on ignore. Which makes me want to renege on my promise to keep her name out of my mouth. And yes, I called her a cunt, I would have called a dude something equally insulting and no more gender neutral. And for the record I felt extremely bad on behalf of other women who were possibly insulted by my using the word, not one bit for crookshanks.

And motherfucker, this is a thread about the right's recent threats and gestures and admonishments to catalyze some vaguely defined lemon-populist revolution. All I can say is- bring it, fuckholes. You don't like that response, get the fucking kooks who are promoting such lunacy back in the trailer park.

Ballijuana, actually that's Micca's sockpuppet :D

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Originally Posted by ballijuana

Apparently crookshank's troll doesn't have me on ignore. Which makes me want to renege on my promise to keep her name out of my mouth. And yes, I called her a cunt, I would have called a dude something equally insulting and no more gender neutral. And for the record I felt extremely bad on behalf of other women who were possibly insulted by my using the word, not one bit for crookshanks.

And motherfucker, this is a thread about the right's recent threats and gestures and admonishments to catalyze some vaguely defined lemon-populist revolution. All I can say is- bring it, fuckholes. You don't like that response, get the fucking kooks who are promoting such lunacy back in the trailer park.

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I don't see anything in this thread about kooks promoting lunacy. What I see is the goverment preparing for some vauge threat THEY percieve is coming.

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

Ballijuana, actually that's Micca's sockpuppet :D

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:toast I opened the other thread too late. :lol

I mean doesn't this sound like some lame" premptive strike" on your own citizens?

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

Ballijuana, actually that's Micca's sockpuppet :D

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Oh sock puppet I don't know what that is but I kinda like it it makes me sound so sinister

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Originally Posted by DarkReign

...I dont need a mailer to know whats coming.

It is coming. Question is when.

I dont think soon. I dont think in 20 years even. But it is coming. The divide between those who have and those who do not is only increasing. At some point, too much becomes too much.

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Uh....NO!

Don't encourage sicko behavior. This reminds me of a Twilight Zone episode. People were getting into hysteria turning on their neighbors until they finally realize that it was just a test to see how people would act in such an environment. Things were never the same in that poor neighborhood.

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Originally Posted by Creepn

Uh....NO!

Don't encourage sicko behavior. This reminds me of a Twilight Zone episode. People were getting into hysteria turning on their neighbors until they finally realize that it was just a test to see how people would act in such an environment. Things were never the same in that poor neighborhood.

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There is actually a relatively similar Psychological/Sociological experiment that concerns this, one of the most famous in history, conducted by Philip Zimbardo.

If you haven't read about it, it's an amazing and incredibly shocking piece of psychological research.

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Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

There is actually a relatively similar Psychological/Sociological experiment that concerns this, one of the most famous in history, conducted by Philip Zimbardo.

If you haven't read about it, it's an amazing and incredibly shocking piece of psychological research.

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Prisoners and Guards?

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Originally Posted by Creepn

Uh....NO!

Don't encourage sicko behavior. This reminds me of a Twilight Zone episode. People were getting into hysteria turning on their neighbors until they finally realize that it was just a test to see how people would act in such an environment. Things were never the same in that poor neighborhood.

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Dude, I am not going to take this next statement very far because, as someone else put it so well, we trade only in opinion.

I, frankly, dont understand anyone who looks at the world around them and doesnt think there is a future living Hell coming to humanity. Doesnt mean it will happen in the next 5 years or even 20 years, because I have absolutely no idea. But, IMO, this world, its structure and order, is due for a very hard fall.

Not Biblical BS, but some form of near-to-complete global social chaos. In a strange way, I welcome it.

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Originally Posted by Nbadan

So much baloney, so few new threads we have to start....

When all else fails...

U.S. Preparing a Military Response to Coming Social Chaos



The GOP is mailing this to GOP loyalists


At least liberals are smart enough to keep these wackos in 9/11 threads...

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Really some on the right have gone over the edge a while ago, and right wing talk radio and Fox "news" are the cowboys driving the cattle.

I think that this particular fear is widely held on the part of the right these days, and isn't as far from the "mainstream" of GOP thinking as many on the right would like to admit.

The fun thing is that when the doom and gloom doesn't happen, there is a good chance that more moderate Reps might actually realize how batshit crazy a lot of the Republican party is, and defect into the moderate side of the Democrats.

This will of course somewhat alienate the batshit crazy left a bit more.

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Originally Posted by RandomGuy

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Really some on the right have gone over the edge a while ago, and right wing talk radio and Fox "news" are the cowboys driving the cattle.

I think that this particular fear is widely held on the part of the right these days, and isn't as far from the "mainstream" of GOP thinking as many on the right would like to admit.

The fun thing is that when the doom and gloom doesn't happen, there is a good chance that more moderate Reps might actually realize how batshit crazy a lot of the Republican party is, and defect into the moderate side of the Democrats.

This will of course somewhat alienate the batshit crazy left a bit more.

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Nice generalizations and stereotyping of talk radio, Fox News, and the Republican party all in one shot.

I guess it's easy to overlook liberal thinktanks that have done things like label libertarians, Ron Paul supporters, military vets, etc. as potential domestic terrorists :rolleyes

No one that's conservative really wants to see chaos like what is being talked about in the original thread. But as others have mentioned, we now have full on class warfare being perpetuated by many in D.C. (on the left), and all you need is a little history lesson to know that violence spread the last time we had extremely difficult economic times.

Couple that with the out of control spending of our current leaders in D.C. and inevitable coming hyperinflation (and just wait until the costs of Medicare and SS really start hitting), and it's reasonable to see some chaos in our future.

It sucks, but we're going to reach a tipping point somewhere along the way. I hope the hell I'm wrong (and that the original referenced info is wrong as well), and would never be more thankful to be so.

But it's comical for you to be associating the GOP with some right wing lunatic fringe and suggest that the Democraps are the party of reason. I mean you're talking about the party that is doing everything from shoveling more taxpayer money to shitty banks to authoring bills to allow American citizens to sue the government because of global warming.

You need to wake the fuck up and realize no one in D.C. cares about the American people, all they're doing is paying the idiots like you lip service while taking care of their donors and business friends and making sure they can stay in office next time around to get more bribes and get rich.

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

Nice generalizations and stereotyping of talk radio, Fox News, and the Republican party all in one shot.

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:lol

This from the poster child of sweeping generalizations about what "the left" thinks/believes/is/wants?

That's what you're going with?

Notice, braintrust, that I didn't say "all" of the right.

I said "more on the right than many would care to admit to".

Given your rebuttal about how many on the right are as out of touch with reality as you seem to be, I would say my "care to admit to" has a good chunk of truth to it.

lol at Aggie being all like, "well, we don't really want to see chaos, but what choice do we have what with the all out class-warfare, etc."

Your paranoia is evident. Oh and BTW Aggie, you did hear the news about Obama completely backing the fuck away from an assault weapons ban? No? Y'know the ban that supposedly was just the first step in the abolishment of all weaponry everywhere. Anyways, another conservative, fear-monger talking point just went down the tubes.

I took my CHL test this weekend. It was packed with people from all different kinds of backgrounds. It gave me a much deeper appreciation for the 2nd amendment.

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Originally Posted by ballijuana

lol at Aggie being all like, "well, we don't really want to see chaos, but what choice do we have what with the all out class-warfare, etc."

Your paranoia is evident. Oh and BTW Aggie, you did hear the news about Obama completely backing the fuck away from an assault weapons ban? No? Y'know the ban that supposedly was just the first step in the abolishment of all weaponry everywhere. Anyways, another conservative, fear-monger talking point just went down the tubes.

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BTW, did you hear Pelosi say last week that Congress will be authoring an assault weapon ban?

Do you really think Obama is going to veto that legislation given the stance against weapons on his change.gov web site? It will be like a lot of other things since he got elected - he'll feign outrage/voice opposition, then when Reid and Pelosi come along with the passed legislation he'll sign off on it.

Anyway, another dumbass lib tripping over yourself to defend the Messiah.

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Originally Posted by FaithInOne

I took my CHL test this weekend. It was packed with people from all different kinds of backgrounds. It gave me a much deeper appreciation for the 2nd amendment.

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Oh come on, everyone there is a radical right wing terrorist in the making [/liberal]

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Originally Posted by DarkReign

...I dont need a mailer to know whats coming.

It is coming. Question is when.

I dont think soon. I dont think in 20 years even. But it is coming. The divide between those who have and those who do not is only increasing. At some point, too much becomes too much.

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I agree. I don't think people realize how authoritarian liberals really are and convincing people to give up their rights. As for the haves and havenots... I don't know the numbers, but what I see living here in Portland is that the population of the poor is having children at about twice the rate as people who pay their own way. I believe part of that is because it is so expensive now to pay for raising a family, but what's stopping you when it's "other peoples money?"

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Originally Posted by RandomGuy

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The fun thing is that when the doom and gloom doesn't happen, there is a good chance that more moderate Reps might actually realize how batshit crazy a lot of the Republican party is, and defect into the moderate side of the Democrats.

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What if their not crazy and see the truths of socialism. What does you risk management say about that? Shouldn't we try to stop that possibility?

Crazy folk are fun.

Y'all don't like it, get the fuck out. You don't like the cleanup, you on the right shouldn't have put the country in this position to begin with. Fucking take no responsibility scared as fuck, batshit-insane cowards.

And Aggie/Chicken Little, Nansy Pelosi (RUUUUUUUUUUNNN!!!!!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!! RUUUUUUUUUUUNNN!!!) isn't doing shit. http://www.newsweek.com/id/193589?

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many past champions of stricter gun-control measures are silent. These include top Obama White House officials who have squelched any talk within the administration about pushing further gun-control measures."It's weird," says Peter Hamm, the communications director for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "When you see people like [Attorney General] Eric Holder or Hillary Clinton or [White House chief of staff] Rahm Emanuel become muted on this issue, you feel like you want to call up a friend and say, 'What's up?' "

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Ben LaBolt, a White House spokesman, says, "The president supports the Second Amendment, respects the tradition of gun ownership in this country, and he believes we can take common-sense steps to keep our streets safe," pointing to $2 billion in new funding for state and local law enforcement in the stimulus package.

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65 House Democrats signed a letter vowing to resist any gun-control measures. In the Senate, Montana Democrats Max Baucus and Jon Tester sent their own warning. "Senators to Attorney General Holder: Stay Away From Our Guns," read the press release. Within days, White House aides instructed Justice officials to stop talking about the assault-weapons issue, according to congressional and administration officials who asked not to be identified because of political sensitivities. (A Justice Department spokesman declined to comment.) Last week, in an interview with Katie Couric, Holder skirted questions about reinstating the assault-weapons ban and also about a gaping loophole that permits people to purchase arms at gun shows without background checks. "I understand the Second Amendment. I respect the Second Amendment," said Holder, after denying that he had been instructed to "back off" the gun-control measures.

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Democratic leaders like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer are determined to protect the seats of "blue dogs" from rural districts who are essential to preserving the party's majority in the House. "The Democratic Party understands this is a losing issue … It's a dead loser," says Democratic Rep. Dan Boren, of Muskogee, Okla.

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The NRA loves blue dogs like Boren. The organization feels that it's stronger in Congress than it has been in at least two decades.

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the Senate recently passed an amendment to the budget bill that would reverse a post-9/11 policy and allow passengers to bring guns in their checked bags on Amtrak trains. (In passing the amendment by an overwhelming margin, the Senate ignored pleas by Amtrak officials that the measure could endanger safety.)

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an amendment eliminating most D.C. gun laws has been added to a historic bill giving the city's residents voting representation in Congress.

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But gun enthusiasts argue that even if Poplawski had been banned from getting assault weapons, he would have found a way. One of the reasons he was stocking up on guns, says his mother, is because he feared Obama would take them away.

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but she and her boyfriend—a combat war vet—were too scared to go outside. "Something is very, very wrong with the system," she says. That might sound like a sensible refrain. But you'll struggle to hear a leading Democrat repeat it these days.

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the first 100 days...



...of right-wing madness...

Consequence Management Response Force to join Army Northern Command
Sep 15, 2008
BY Army News Service

WASHINGTON (Army News Service, Sep. 15, 2008) -- As America remembers the anniversary of the terrorist attacks of 9/11, more than 800 members of a joint response force are preparing for their new mission of responding to CBRNE, or chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear and high-yield explosive incidents.

Elements of the force, known as the CBRNE Consequence Management Response Force, or CCMRF, assembled at Fort Stewart, Ga., Sept. 8-19 for a command post exercise called Vibrant Response.

Three brigades form the core of the force: the 1st Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Stewart; the 1st Medical Brigade, Fort Hood, Texas; and the 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade, Fort Bragg, N.C.

The response force will be assigned on Oct. 1 to U.S. Northern Command, Peterson Air Force Base, Colo., and placed under the operational control of U.S. Army North, Fort Sam Houston, Texas.

This week, Col. Lou Vogler, U.S. Army North's chief of future operations, and Marine Corps Lt. Col. James Shores, director of plans and policy for Joint Task Force Civil Support, participated in a round table interview with online journalists to discuss the force, including its unique mission and training.

"U.S. Army North is the Army component of U.S. Northern Command," said Vogler, "and we're charged with coordinating the federal military response in the land domain for domestic operations or disasters, to include CBRNE."

Vogler said that the response force is a scalable, dedicated force that is prepared to reinforce state and local responders when they request federal assistance. The force's alignment under U.S. NORTHCOM shortens the line of command to increase readiness and responsiveness.

Training is a key element of readying the force for its mission, and Vibrant Response offers the opportunity to train in a realistic scenario before a crisis or incident occurs.

During the exercise, commanders and staff of the force will train, rehearse and exercise - from academic classes to making decisions and executing orders - all to help prepare them for the mission they will assume on Oct. 1, said Vogler.

"It's an opportunity for network building in an unprecedented assignment of forces," said Shores. "DOD always had allocated contingency sourced forces - but this is precedent-setting network building with the forces that we ultimately will go out and execute with. It's an opportunity to get to know our forces, to see them in execution, to mission-orient them and be that much better - to be that much more responsive."

One goal of the exercise is to exercise with partners from the civilian agencies they would support. To that end, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and other interagency representatives are participating to ensure integration with civilian consequence managers who would lead a response, said Vogler.

"The overall federal response builds on the local and state response in accordance with the incident command system and existing plans and processes that are out there," said Vogler. "The response force would supplement local efforts."

The training allows planners and leaders to test and improve upon procedures from previous exercises and training.

When asked how responders were working to eliminate the communications difficulties of 9/11, Shores said that frequency management planning is a part of that training effort, and those issues are a part of the planning process.

Both Vogler and Shores reiterated the importance of training and planning to the success of the response force.

"We at Army North as the joint force land component command of NORTHCOM, and Joint Task Force Civil Support, as the standing CBRNE response headquarters, take this mission very seriously," said Vogler. "The assignment of the CCMRF just makes us that much more prepared in terms of having standing relationships and an ability to train with a specific force full-time, under the control of NORTHCOM, to ensure we are ready to respond. The force has always been in place, but now the relationships are closer than ever."

"This type of planning and coordination and training is a priority both in our headquarters and at NORTHCOM, as we understand our responsibilities to be ready should the requirement arise, God forbid," said Vogler.