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lol at Aggie being all like, "well, we don't really want to see chaos, but what choice do we have what with the all out class-warfare, etc."
Your paranoia is evident. Oh and BTW Aggie, you did hear the news about Obama completely backing the fuck away from an assault weapons ban? No? Y'know the ban that supposedly was just the first step in the abolishment of all weaponry everywhere. Anyways, another conservative, fear-monger talking point just went down the tubes.
I took my CHL test this weekend. It was packed with people from all different kinds of backgrounds. It gave me a much deeper appreciation for the 2nd amendment.
BTW, did you hear Pelosi say last week that Congress will be authoring an assault weapon ban?Quote:
Originally Posted by ballijuana
Do you really think Obama is going to veto that legislation given the stance against weapons on his change.gov web site? It will be like a lot of other things since he got elected - he'll feign outrage/voice opposition, then when Reid and Pelosi come along with the passed legislation he'll sign off on it.
Anyway, another dumbass lib tripping over yourself to defend the Messiah.
Oh come on, everyone there is a radical right wing terrorist in the making [/liberal]Quote:
Originally Posted by FaithInOne
I agree. I don't think people realize how authoritarian liberals really are and convincing people to give up their rights. As for the haves and havenots... I don't know the numbers, but what I see living here in Portland is that the population of the poor is having children at about twice the rate as people who pay their own way. I believe part of that is because it is so expensive now to pay for raising a family, but what's stopping you when it's "other peoples money?"Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkReign
What if their not crazy and see the truths of socialism. What does you risk management say about that? Shouldn't we try to stop that possibility?Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
Crazy folk are fun.
Y'all don't like it, get the fuck out. You don't like the cleanup, you on the right shouldn't have put the country in this position to begin with. Fucking take no responsibility scared as fuck, batshit-insane cowards.
And Aggie/Chicken Little, Nansy Pelosi (RUUUUUUUUUUNNN!!!!!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!! RUUUUUUUUUUUNNN!!!) isn't doing shit. http://www.newsweek.com/id/193589?
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many past champions of stricter gun-control measures are silent. These include top Obama White House officials who have squelched any talk within the administration about pushing further gun-control measures."It's weird," says Peter Hamm, the communications director for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "When you see people like [Attorney General] Eric Holder or Hillary Clinton or [White House chief of staff] Rahm Emanuel become muted on this issue, you feel like you want to call up a friend and say, 'What's up?' "
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Ben LaBolt, a White House spokesman, says, "The president supports the Second Amendment, respects the tradition of gun ownership in this country, and he believes we can take common-sense steps to keep our streets safe," pointing to $2 billion in new funding for state and local law enforcement in the stimulus package.
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65 House Democrats signed a letter vowing to resist any gun-control measures. In the Senate, Montana Democrats Max Baucus and Jon Tester sent their own warning. "Senators to Attorney General Holder: Stay Away From Our Guns," read the press release. Within days, White House aides instructed Justice officials to stop talking about the assault-weapons issue, according to congressional and administration officials who asked not to be identified because of political sensitivities. (A Justice Department spokesman declined to comment.) Last week, in an interview with Katie Couric, Holder skirted questions about reinstating the assault-weapons ban and also about a gaping loophole that permits people to purchase arms at gun shows without background checks. "I understand the Second Amendment. I respect the Second Amendment," said Holder, after denying that he had been instructed to "back off" the gun-control measures.
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Democratic leaders like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer are determined to protect the seats of "blue dogs" from rural districts who are essential to preserving the party's majority in the House. "The Democratic Party understands this is a losing issue … It's a dead loser," says Democratic Rep. Dan Boren, of Muskogee, Okla.
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The NRA loves blue dogs like Boren. The organization feels that it's stronger in Congress than it has been in at least two decades.
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the Senate recently passed an amendment to the budget bill that would reverse a post-9/11 policy and allow passengers to bring guns in their checked bags on Amtrak trains. (In passing the amendment by an overwhelming margin, the Senate ignored pleas by Amtrak officials that the measure could endanger safety.)
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an amendment eliminating most D.C. gun laws has been added to a historic bill giving the city's residents voting representation in Congress.
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But gun enthusiasts argue that even if Poplawski had been banned from getting assault weapons, he would have found a way. One of the reasons he was stocking up on guns, says his mother, is because he feared Obama would take them away.
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but she and her boyfriend—a combat war vet—were too scared to go outside. "Something is very, very wrong with the system," she says. That might sound like a sensible refrain. But you'll struggle to hear a leading Democrat repeat it these days.
the first 100 days...
...of right-wing madness...
Consequence Management Response Force to join Army Northern Command
Sep 15, 2008
BY Army News Service
WASHINGTON (Army News Service, Sep. 15, 2008) -- As America remembers the anniversary of the terrorist attacks of 9/11, more than 800 members of a joint response force are preparing for their new mission of responding to CBRNE, or chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear and high-yield explosive incidents.
Elements of the force, known as the CBRNE Consequence Management Response Force, or CCMRF, assembled at Fort Stewart, Ga., Sept. 8-19 for a command post exercise called Vibrant Response.
Three brigades form the core of the force: the 1st Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Stewart; the 1st Medical Brigade, Fort Hood, Texas; and the 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade, Fort Bragg, N.C.
The response force will be assigned on Oct. 1 to U.S. Northern Command, Peterson Air Force Base, Colo., and placed under the operational control of U.S. Army North, Fort Sam Houston, Texas.
This week, Col. Lou Vogler, U.S. Army North's chief of future operations, and Marine Corps Lt. Col. James Shores, director of plans and policy for Joint Task Force Civil Support, participated in a round table interview with online journalists to discuss the force, including its unique mission and training.
"U.S. Army North is the Army component of U.S. Northern Command," said Vogler, "and we're charged with coordinating the federal military response in the land domain for domestic operations or disasters, to include CBRNE."
Vogler said that the response force is a scalable, dedicated force that is prepared to reinforce state and local responders when they request federal assistance. The force's alignment under U.S. NORTHCOM shortens the line of command to increase readiness and responsiveness.
Training is a key element of readying the force for its mission, and Vibrant Response offers the opportunity to train in a realistic scenario before a crisis or incident occurs.
During the exercise, commanders and staff of the force will train, rehearse and exercise - from academic classes to making decisions and executing orders - all to help prepare them for the mission they will assume on Oct. 1, said Vogler.
"It's an opportunity for network building in an unprecedented assignment of forces," said Shores. "DOD always had allocated contingency sourced forces - but this is precedent-setting network building with the forces that we ultimately will go out and execute with. It's an opportunity to get to know our forces, to see them in execution, to mission-orient them and be that much better - to be that much more responsive."
One goal of the exercise is to exercise with partners from the civilian agencies they would support. To that end, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and other interagency representatives are participating to ensure integration with civilian consequence managers who would lead a response, said Vogler.
"The overall federal response builds on the local and state response in accordance with the incident command system and existing plans and processes that are out there," said Vogler. "The response force would supplement local efforts."
The training allows planners and leaders to test and improve upon procedures from previous exercises and training.
When asked how responders were working to eliminate the communications difficulties of 9/11, Shores said that frequency management planning is a part of that training effort, and those issues are a part of the planning process.
Both Vogler and Shores reiterated the importance of training and planning to the success of the response force.
"We at Army North as the joint force land component command of NORTHCOM, and Joint Task Force Civil Support, as the standing CBRNE response headquarters, take this mission very seriously," said Vogler. "The assignment of the CCMRF just makes us that much more prepared in terms of having standing relationships and an ability to train with a specific force full-time, under the control of NORTHCOM, to ensure we are ready to respond. The force has always been in place, but now the relationships are closer than ever."
"This type of planning and coordination and training is a priority both in our headquarters and at NORTHCOM, as we understand our responsibilities to be ready should the requirement arise, God forbid," said Vogler.