Pop screwed us.

Bonner is GOAT fuck off!

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Originally Posted by ElNono

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:lol

Look, a whole field of strawmen. Let's go to work, shall we?

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Originally Posted by purist

Thanks for enlightening me. I stand corrected.
George HIll IS the answer. Start him over Finley, or better yet, let him start in front of Tony so he doesn't get so tired.

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How about we just give him spot minutes to allow Parker to rest and to defend the backup point guard for the Mavs, perhaps the two single largest reasons the Spurs lost? One down.

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Originally Posted by purist

And forgive me for overlooking how much Greg Popovich does indeed suck. the Spurs with Bob Hill at the helm surely would have won four, if not five or six, titles with Timmy.

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The Spurs with Pop making smart decisions > the Spurs with Pop making poor decisions. Two down.

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Originally Posted by purist

Timmy and four scrubs would have won 10 in a row, if not for stubborn Pop.

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Timmy didn't have four scrubs, he had three hall of famers and great role players around him, and if not for Pop's poor decisions they would have won at least five titles, including three in a row from 2005-2007, and certainly would have a better chance of being 1-0 instead of 0-1 today. Three down.

Incidentally, since you are in the mood to make moronic predictions, and actually didn't deny that you give Pop more credit for the Spurs' success than you do Duncan, how many rings would the Spurs have if Duncan had been a Celtic the last 12 years?

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Originally Posted by purist

He hasn't helped this team, he's held them back. I see it now. How poetic that someone with an online ID of Obtructed View has cleared my view.

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How ironic that someone making fun of my name is so clearly refusing to see. I certainly think your name, which means "a person who adheres strictly and often excessively to a tradition" is perfectly appropriate.

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Originally Posted by purist

Shame on me. I bow to the credentials of one Obstructed View, almight one, lover of T.O. and now hater of Pop.

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Who is T.O.? Surely you aren't referring to the receiver for the Bills, who I've always disliked. How that has any bearing on a basketball discussion reflects more on your bias than on my logic.

When you fail to find any evidence of my "hating" Pop beyond the inference you draw from my completely justifiable criticism of his decisions, I'll be here waiting for your apology.

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Originally Posted by purist

Thank you for putting me in my place... away from this forum, where panic rules, lack of common sense is a valued asset, and the anonymity of internet posting equates to basketball genius.

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Yes, you brought loads of common sense to the argument, about as much as you're taking away. God forbid people discuss basketball on a basketball discussion board. :lmao

why do people here act like they know what the fuck they are talking about, as if they personally have lead a team to a championship, themselves. it's fucking stupid and annoying. pop knows what the hell he is doing.

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Originally Posted by bbarry

why do people here act like they know what the fuck they are talking about, as if they personally have lead a team to a championship, themselves. it's fucking stupid and annoying. pop knows what the hell he is doing.

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Nothing Pop does is ever wrong. There is nothing to see here, no problems.

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Originally Posted by bbarry

why do people here act like they know what the fuck they are talking about, as if they personally have lead a team to a championship, themselves. it's fucking stupid and annoying. pop knows what the hell he is doing.

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Yeah, who the fuck dared to suggest that Bowen cover Peja last year two games before Pop did it? Assholes.

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Originally Posted by bbarry

why do people here act like they know what the fuck they are talking about, as if they personally have lead a team to a championship, themselves. it's fucking stupid and annoying. pop knows what the hell he is doing.

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Fans tend to overreact, but see scenarios before coaches will make the changes. It's not that anyone here doesn't know what they're saying. It's just that Pop will take his time and not rush into any changes.

Trust me, when those changes come, they will be of the sort that most here are suggesting.

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Fans tend to overreact, but see scenarios before coaches will make the changes. It's not that anyone here doesn't know what they're saying. It's just that Pop will take his time and not rush into any changes.

Trust me, when those changes come, they will be of the sort that most here are suggesting.

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If those changes come. Remember 2006. My FIP dried up back then.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

If those changes come. Remember 2006. My FIP dried up back then.

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:lol

Note to Pop:
All older players are not valued treasures, and all young players are not trash.

If George Hill was rookie of the week early, and was a legit first round pick worth selecting over guys like CDR and Chalmers, I wonder what Pop's explanation is for his backslide? Didn't he have 16 points against the Mavs in one of the games this year?

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Originally Posted by itzsoweezee

they could dominate the mavs inside with gooden and duncan. instead, popovich plays bonner. now they're playing smallball.

fucking dumb ass shit.

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How exactly did he screw you? Oh I see you mean Pop screwed the SAS team, hence he screwed the fans, and you are a fun, so he screwed you. That's why you are so upset, I get it now....

Tssss

coaches wanna be.

Like that was worth a new thread.

Now I am assuming you are a big boy and follow our teams games and you do have an understanding of what's going on inside the court. So why don't you stop cursing and give us an argument or two.

pop this, pop that, damn people, give the man some respect. all you do when something goes wrong is bitching on pop. He knows what he's doing, and if he hasnt accomplished anything in his years with the spurs, than you have the right to bitch, but he did, he is the main one behind the spurs glory and knows what he is doing, have some faith in him..

Spurs been screwed since they lost Manu for the season, stop bitching about Pop, he's a great coach.

haha pop could play bonner, vaughn, oberto, and a towel boy all 48 minutes and the lapdogs on here would be yelling to everyone 'he knows what hes doing!!!!'

hahaha oh brother.

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Are you retarded? Did you forget who JJ Barea is? Parker can't guard him and Kidd for 48 minutes, and yeah, I'd rather see Hill guard Howard all fucking day than have Finley on him.


First of all, how about Tony Parker? He had to play through his normal rest periods during the game, and was gassed in the fourth quarter when the Spurs needed him most. If you give Hill ten minutes of time to let Parker rest, or at least not to have to cover Barea, he's fresher down the stretch.

Finley shot lights out, scored 19 points, and was -20 for his time in the game, by far the worst of anyone, including Bonner. To suggest that Hill can't get some of his minutes is just stupid.

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i'm all for Hill taking minutes from Finley . Hill doesn't have that bad of offense (see earlier in the season when he took over the pg duties while TP was injured), and I'm pretty sure he's been working on his shot with Chip England.

problem is he's been out of the rotation for so long . he's got to work himself into a groove and get confident on the offensive end, and that usually doesn't happen in one game, esp. when you're talking about a rookie . but his defense will be there at the least . i say hope for the best on O from him if i'm Pop . let him get his feet wet and work up a sweat and see what he can provide on that end . I'm confident that what he can provide on O and on D will ultimately surpass what Finley does, but i guess we will have to wait and see.

whatever happend to this motto: "let great defense translate to offense"? the Spurs have completely abandoned this philosophy . i miss the days when the Spurs were labeled "boring" because they played great D . now they're just "old." :depressed

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i'm trying to think of any strategic choice popovich has made that qualifies him for the genius label people always give him. shutting down the suns' three point shooting is the only one i can think. otherwise, he's generally had the benefit of playing some really damn good players.

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That would hold merit if the Spurs have never won a series against other teams with really damn good players.

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Originally Posted by Bukefal

pop this, pop that, damn people, give the man some respect. all you do when something goes wrong is bitching on pop.

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Exactly what message board have you been perusing?

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Originally Posted by Bukefal

He knows what he's doing, and if he hasnt accomplished anything in his years with the spurs, than you have the right to bitch, but he did, he is the main one behind the spurs glory and knows what he is doing, have some faith in him..

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Seriously, it's like some of you Pop-defending mouth-breathers are too fucking lazy to even read this thread. Jeezus.