Duncan: 1 FTA

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Originally Posted by mavs>spurs

Duncan got hit some, but what can I say, it's a big man's game down in the paint, and Tim initiates alot of that contact. I agree there were some iffy calls pertaining to Tim, like the "block" where he got shoved into the first row. I also thought he should have gotten an and 1 off a turnaround hook on the block where he got knocked down. But overall, it just didn't look all that horrendous from an officiating standpoint. They let the players play, and guys got hit on both sides. Tony couldn't have been getting hacked or hit too badly, at least not in the first half when he was killing us. He was getting to every spot on the court that he wanted, every time he wanted. If we don't find a better way to check him then we might run into some trouble.

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Duncan got hit a lot, and Dampier was bulldozing anyone out of Dirk's way to clear him out for jumpers in the first half. It wasn't a big man's game tonight, it was a big Mav's game tonight, because Timmy wasn't getting any respect at all. Fuck superstar calls, I'd just like the calls that you'd expect anybody to get who makes a good move in the post and gets hit, or who gets past his man and gets hit on the arms going for a layup. Combine that with allowing Dirk to hack and shove and for anyone to reach in on Parker with no whistles and you end up with what we have. I'm not ready to mail this series in yet, but the Spurs are going to have to play that much smarter and just force the officials to blow the whistles. If they won't blow them, then the Mavs will win this one in four.

Definitely don't mail it in, trust me on this. I'm a Mav fan, and I know how these things go. This thing is going 6 or 7 games, I don't care if Joey Crawford comes down to ref every game and rapes you guys.

Actually we got Tony Brothers out of the way. After his performance tonight, Crawford doesn't scare me. Dirk dropped a hip and a forearm into Bowen on a screen in the first quarter right in front of Brothers and he just let it go. There were several times that something happened as he was watching it and there was no whistle.

Was at the game...and TD deserved to get at LEAST 10 FT's tonight...

Maybe Tim needs to learn a fadeaway jumper followed by falling down after the release while crying about the contact and he can get some "dirk" calls.

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Originally Posted by crc21209

Was at the game...and TD deserved to get at LEAST 10 FT's tonight...

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spurs would still lose even if he had got that many FTs. Don't blame the refs, my dear spurs fans, it's just game one after all... spurs also lost game one in the first rounds of 03, 05, 07 seasons, which all resulted in championships. If you must have got some one(s) to blame, then blame Tracy please, everything is his fault... www.blametracy.com

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Originally Posted by Ghazi

My eyes tell me Duncan deserved FT's a few times but didn't get them.

But the refs did not decide this game.

You wanna see a game decided by refs look at games 3, 5, and 6 of the 2006 NBA Finals.

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Also, look at games 3 and 4 of the Western Conference Semi-Finals in the 4th quarter of both those games. You couldn't have gotten hosed in the finals with out those calls in the Semi-Finals.

Anyway, there was some calls the Spurs should have had tonight, but I always like a physical game called the same both ways. The refs did not cost us the game tonight. They missed some calls, but Spurs could have played a lot better.

This had nothing to do with why the Spurs lost. The Mavs simply played better, and exploited matchups in areas that Pop either could not address or refused to address.


That being said, it's hard to imagine that Tim only got fouled once yesterday.

Yup...you guys got completly hosed by the refs. If you hadn't you would have probably shot something like 79% on your 3pointers. Oopss...you did.

But seriously...timmah is fouled everytime down the court...even when he doesn't have the ball...at least that's what he says and he's right. He should get a fta whenever he misses a shot...he deserves it, having so many rings and all.

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Originally Posted by Ghazi

My eyes tell me Duncan deserved FT's a few times but didn't get them.

But the refs did not decide this game.

You wanna see a game decided by refs look at games 3, 5, and 6 of the 2006 NBA Finals.

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They sure helped the mavs though. As far as the 06 finals dallas absolutley got it straight up the ass. Fuck stern!

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Originally Posted by samikeyp

Why would Stern care about Dallas or SA? If there was a conspiracy, it would be for the Lakers and Cavs so this series is irrelevant.

Besides, the refs didn't cause the Spurs to blow layups, give up offensive boards or forget how to play defense.

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because he wants the spurs, duncan, ginobilli to get out of the league already and go away quick and send parker to LA.

its really sad and pretty damn obvious.

part of it is the refs not blowing the whistle, part of it is Tim not taking it hard on Damp.

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Originally Posted by Creation88

part of it is the refs not blowing the whistle, part of it is Tim not taking it hard on Damp.

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Tim needs to force the issue and do it fast.

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Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain

While the refs did suck in the second half, they didn't suck enough that I would blame the loss on them. The real reason we lost is because we playeed terrible D in the final 3 quarters with the fourth being the worst.

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If the refs sucked in the second half, then there's not words to describe how they were in the first half. Look, if you give Duncan and Parker the fouls that they legitimately drew in the game, they're in the penalty sooner and have 8-10 more free throw attempts at the very least. That turns the game. Expecting to get a call or two at home with Bavetta calling the game isn't unreasonable, and not getting any is simply amazing.

If the refs sucked, then the refs sucked. Period.

Don't try to whitewash it with "it's not what cost us the game" because you can use that same faulty logic on any one thing (except the facetious "scoring more points than the opponent").

It's part of it, and it adds up - just like rebounds, 3 pt percentage, etc.