Pop please bench Bonner and give Hill the back up PG minutes

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04-19-2009
jbspurs

Re: gooden/duncan together. bonner off the bench, hill back up point.

I say bench Bonner and put Vaughn on Barea. On offense, whoever is guarding vaugh will end up double teaming Tim in the low post, Barea will endup doing it most of time since Vaugh can't shoot jumpers. I think Tim can manage whoever is guarding him + Barea. Let's go Spurs!!
04-19-2009
VaSpursFan

Re: gooden/duncan together. bonner off the bench, hill back up point.

bonner is of no use in this series at all. pop has to pull the plug on this bad experiement now.
04-19-2009
Aggie Hoopsfan

Re: Pop please bench Bonner and give Hill the back up PG minutes

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Originally Posted by EricB

Robert Horry was dumped because he couldn't play anymore.

Not because Bonner > Horry.

Neither can Bonner, but he's still starting.

I'm curious, if Pop continues to have his head up his ass for the rest of the series, will you admit he fucked up when it's over? Or will you suck him off and blame the players as usual?
04-19-2009
peskypesky

Re: gooden/duncan together. bonner off the bench, hill back up point.

Bonner at PG is going to be Pop's next brilliant idea.
04-19-2009
Russ

Re: gooden/duncan together. bonner off the bench, hill back up point.

If the Spurs lose in the 1st Round, Gooden will likely be gone for one of two reasons: 1, the Spurs feel that having Gooden on the team didn't even get them past the 1st Round. 2, Gooden feels that fighting for meager playing time on a team that didn't even get past the 1st Round ain't worth it. In other words, neither side will have the glory that it takes to forge some understanding to their mutual benefit.

So, if he Spurs don't win this series, Gooden is likely gone.

Given that situation, and the fact that Pop at his press conference looked like a man who has nothing to lose, why not start Gooden with Tim and see if it can work? The upside is huge, not only for the present (possibly dire) situation but also, possibly, for the next 2-3 years.

It would be a shame if Gooden came and went and we never got an answer to that central question, can he and Tim play together. Can Gooden be the 2d big? At this point, it's like ships passing in the night.

So, what the hell do the Spurs have to lose? (And they might have a lot to gain.)
04-19-2009
poop

Re: gooden/duncan together. bonner off the bench, hill back up point.

this is the most tragic year of being a spurs fan ive ever had.

in previous years, we lost only because our team played hard and smart and was just outmatched (except 2006*)

but this year...our good team is going to lose only because our own coach is sabotaging us...it is beyond frustrating and in the end just sad and tragic.
04-19-2009
hater

Re: gooden/duncan together. bonner off the bench, hill back up point.

100% Hill wil be used in game 2 to counter JJ Barea.

stupid motherfuckin Pop should have used him in the 3rd quarter of game 1. :pctoss
04-19-2009
spursfan09

Re: gooden/duncan together. bonner off the bench, hill back up point.

Pop won't do that. It seems too logical. He needs to stay off wine for a while. I do not trust Pop to make the necessary adjustments.
04-19-2009
Ice009

Re: Pop please bench Bonner and give Hill the back up PG minutes

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Originally Posted by Spursmania

Ice, I am so depressed. Pop will not make the adjustment, and I think we all know that. Many of us have watched Bonner's decline the last 15-20 games or so (about when Gooden came to the Spurs) and Pop has never adjusted. He keeps playing Bonner even when Bonner is not producing for us offensively and is a defensive liabilty.

We have seen how uncomfortable Mason looks as the back up PG and we have seen how awesome he can be when left to play his natural position. Pop sees this too, and Pop doesn't give a shit. He's too stubborn to make those adjustments. Just watch Bonner start next game and get a substantiual amount of minutes again. :depressed

Well he better go ahead and make the change or he cannot be this stupid.

btw everything you said is pretty much spot on. Why can't Pop make those moves. It's obvious to all of us.

Maybe he is doing it on purpose to stick it to Peter Holt and his cheapness?
Maybe he is saying well you didn't want Scola so here is Bonner for you ;). You don't want to spend any money this is what you get.
04-19-2009
Ice009

Re: Pop please bench Bonner and give Hill the back up PG minutes

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Originally Posted by Flux451

Did you see Pops reaction? Explained all of our profound feeling for his play as an whole.

No I didn't see it. What did he do?

I was too pissed off to notice anything else after Bonner threw that bad pass.
04-19-2009
SpursFan0728

Re: Pop please bench Bonner and give Hill the back up PG minutes

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Originally Posted by Ice009

No I didn't see it. What did he do?

I was too pissed off to notice anything else after Bonner threw that bad pass.

he had 2 hands over his head and was stomping the floor.:downspin:
04-19-2009
Ice009

Re: Pop please bench Bonner and give Hill the back up PG minutes

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Originally Posted by SpursFan0728

he had 2 hands over his head and was stomping the floor.:downspin:

Wow. So he was pissed off too.

He must be mad a Peter Holt then and is trying to stick it to him by playing Bonner. I really don't see any other reason for him not making the change.
04-19-2009
pjjrfan

Re: Pop please bench Bonner and give Hill the back up PG minutes

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Originally Posted by Ice009

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Bonner never will do what Horry did for us. The worst play of the game was late in the 4th quarter when Bonner set a screen on his own man and Barea got an easy lay up out of it. What was Pop thinking in regards to Bonner taking over Horry's spot. Do you think Rob would ever have a play like that?

I saw that and I can't repeat what I said, and I'm glad my grandkids weren't there to hear me. :bang:bang:bang
04-19-2009
lefty

Re: Pop please bench Bonner and give Hill the back up PG minutes

I wish we kept Brent Barry.

Especially with Manu out and Pop not trusting Hill

Barry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bonner
04-19-2009
Kill_Bill_Pana

Re: Pop please bench Bonner and give Hill the back up PG minutes

Bonner is a POS player. Spurs managers have lost their minds.
04-19-2009
Strike

Re: Pop please bench Bonner and give Hill the back up PG minutes

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Originally Posted by Kill_Bill_Pana

Bonner is a POS player. Spurs managers have lost their minds.

+1

On a non-Spurs note, I don't know who that broad in your sig is, but she makes me want to do this....
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o.../motorboat.gif
Dear the motorboat! :wow
04-19-2009
spursncowboys

Re: Pop please bench Bonner and give Hill the back up PG minutes

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Originally Posted by Ice009

I think we still have a real shot to win this series if Pop smartens up.

Two things I think that MUST BE DONE GAME TWO.

1. Bench Bonner. Give him some minutes off the bench, but if he's playing poorly yank him.

2. Play George Hill at back up PG for defense and tell him to attack when he's on offense. Move Mason Jr back to shooting guard full time.

Gotta make those moves Pop. Other moves would be to get TP better scoring opportunities by setting better screens and get Roger and Michael shots if they are shooting well.

Bonner never will do what Horry did for us. The worst play of the game was late in the 4th quarter when Bonner set a screen on his own man and Barea got an easy lay up out of it. What was Pop thinking in regards to Bonner taking over Horry's spot. Do you think Rob would ever have a play like that?

:toast
04-19-2009
spursncowboys

Re: Pop please bench Bonner and give Hill the back up PG minutes

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Originally Posted by Kill_Bill_Pana

Bonner is a POS player. Spurs managers have lost their minds.

I can't take my eyes away
04-20-2009
Ice009

Re: Pop please bench Bonner and give Hill the back up PG minutes

Let's see if Pop does the right thing tonight.

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