Initial Reactions: Spurs vs. Mavs - Game 1

Damn pop

The way I see it, I hope this experiment with Bonner proves once and for all how he cannot be a key component of a title team. With Manu out, this year is likely not bringing us a title. I'm looking forward to 09-10, with a healthy big 3, and Pop making better decisions with regard to the supporting cast. If a 1st round spanking is what's needed for Pop to resign Gooden, play Hill more, stop playing Mason as backup PG, trade/sit Bonner, etc, then so be it.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Small ball. Bad matchup but Mason is better equipped to guard Nowitzki than Terry. The Mavs obviously knew the scouting report that Mason can't get around screens and just ran Terry around 50 screens in the few minutes Mason attempted to defend him.

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I have more faith in Finley fighting through or around screens than Mason.

Haha. Matt Bonner.

The run is over.

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Originally Posted by timvp

When Bonner went back in the game, it was like he was saying: "You don't want small ball? Enjoy Matt Bonner :tu"

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Well getting Bonner was the Spurs solution to losing to Dallas in 2006.
:lol

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Originally Posted by peskypesky

You were way too easy on Bonner and Pop. This loss is on those two guys. But I blame Pop more than Bonner. It's not Bonner's fault he sucks...but it is Pop's fault for playing Bonner over Gooden.

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I agree with you 100%.

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Originally Posted by Spursmania

I agree with you 100%.

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you really think the bulk or even a considerable portion of this loss is on Bonner :huh

he's a fuckin roleplayer you idiots. you act like he fouled dirk for an and 1 three pointer while we were up 3 with 1 second remaining. the fool took one fucking shot and only played 18 minutes.

Kurt Thomas has the exact same stat line with 1 more board and 3 less fouls. Is a large portion of the loss on him too?

I'm not even going to write anything, other than writing that I'm not going to do it.

Except that I can't believe how bad this team has become on defense. I mean, it's really sad how exposed they are all over the place.

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Originally Posted by z0sa

you really think the bulk or even a considerable portion of this loss is on Bonner :huh

he's a fuckin roleplayer you idiots. you act like he fouled dirk for an and 1 three pointer while we were up 3 with 1 second remaining. the fool took one fucking shot and only played 18 minutes.

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That's 18 more minutes than what he should have played. And the bulk of this loss is on Pop for actually going back to him over and over again.

just watch...cia pop is gonna let us get to 0-3 and then pow!!! the mavs won't suspect a thing. all hail, pop.

The interesting thing about the 2 games I watched today was the teams who have been willing to play and develop young guys- Dallas and Chicago. I watched Rose, Thomas and Noah, and then Barea, Bass, and Wright, while the Spurs played no one born after 1982.

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Originally Posted by itzsoweezee

gotta agree. gooden played good defense. definitely better than bonner, who was abused by the mavs.

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Timvp can you please explain this?

I thought Bonner was awful on the defensive end, but how can you say he played good D and say Drew wasn't as good as Bonner on the defensive end?

we need a backup PG for TP. plz activate Hill

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Originally Posted by Mr. Body

Haha. Matt Bonner.

The run is over.

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That flop on Dampier is one of the worst plays all time in Spurs history

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Originally Posted by ElNono

That's 18 more minutes than what he should have played.

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Since KT had the exact same statline and contributed only very slightly more, I'm going to assume he shouldn't have played 18 minutes either. So, who gets the 36 minutes of time?

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And the bulk of this loss is on Pop for actually going back to him over and over again.

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Bonner took one shot and played 18 minutes. Try again. I'll start you out:

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And the bulk of this loss is on Pop for

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Originally Posted by ploto

Well getting Bonner was the Spurs solution to losing to Dallas in 2006.
:lol

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Yeah, I don't know what makes me crazier, that he wouldn't bring in a big white guy in 2006 or that he won't take out a big white guy this year.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

Yeah, I don't know what makes me crazier, that he wouldn't bring in a big white guy in 2006 or that he won't take out a big white guy this year.

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The more things change, the more they stay the same

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Originally Posted by Spurs Brazil

That flop on Dampier is one of the worst plays all time in Spurs history

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That wasn't a flop, he set his feet and got knocked down. Again, he should have known he wasn't going to get the call, but what else could he do aside from just wrap the dude up?

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Originally Posted by z0sa

Since KT had the exact same statline and contributed only very slightly more, I'm going to assume he shouldn't have played 18 minutes either. So, who gets the 36 minutes of time?



Bonner took one shot and played 18 minutes. Try again.

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no way you're defending bonner after that game.

it's just puzzling that we have a defensive legend like Bruce Bowen, and he isn't starting..he's clearly proven that he's still effective, yet Pop is insulting him by doing this..

then we have a VERY GOOD defensive PG/SG with great athleticism and freakish length, and he can't get off the fucking bench..

what happened to the defensive philosophy?..

The 2nd half defense was pathetic. Constant lane penetration and offensive rebounds by the Mavs, especially with Duncan and 4 guards. When Duncan had to help out, that exposed Damp and the other guys for offensive boards.

Too much TD down the stretch too. It reminded me of the stagnant O of years past.

We're gonna see a lot more of Barea....he's one of few that was able to stay in front of Parker.

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Originally Posted by Mugen

no way you're defending bonner after that game.

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He played like shit, but only a 100% through and through dumbass would think he cost us the game, or was a considerable part of the problem. Him doing nothing affects the Spurs only so much.

and i've defended bonner forever, you're foolish to think i'd do otherwise. It's too easy to defend him with all the irrational hating that goes on.

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Originally Posted by z0sa

Since KT had the exact same statline and contributed only very slightly more, I'm going to assume he shouldn't have played 18 minutes either. So, who gets the 36 minutes of time?



Bonner took one shot and played 18 minutes. Try again.

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All I'll say is watch the game and not the box score. The way Bonner flopped, picked up fouls, let Dirk and Bass take it right to him, and did squat by way of boxing out (much less actually pick up some boards), he was the Mavs' MVP.

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Originally Posted by z0sa

He played like shit, but only a 100% through and through dumbass would think he cost us the game, or was a considerable part of the problem. Him doing nothing affects the Spurs only so much.

and i've defended bonner forever, you're foolish to think i'd do otherwise. It's too easy to defend him with all the irrational hating that goes on.

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he didnt cost us the game. but IMO he is the personification of everything that is wrong with the spurs this season.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

That wasn't a flop, he set his feet and got knocked down. Again, he should have known he wasn't going to get the call, but what else could he do aside from just wrap the dude up?

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Wrap him up. Foul him. Have him earn it from the charity stripe. So much for basketball IQ.