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Re: Spurs vs. Mavs - Game 2 Adjustments
Spot on on everything, especially about playing Hill. I stated this in countless threads before, during, and after game 1. Hill is the only Spur capable of staying with Barrea and Terry, although Bowen can guard Terry for spells. The only thing I disagree with is Matt Bonner, that guy is our best player. His +/- had to be horrendous, and he just isn't equipped to guard anyone on the Mavs. He's not really a center, and he can't guard Dirk, leaving him with no one really to cover.
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I just have this feeling Pop isn't going to pull his head out of his ass and play Hill.
By the time we see Hill tonight, it'll be too little too late.
Great great points, timvp :tu
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I can't beleive ppl are bitching about Barea flopping. We have Ginobili and Bowen in our team ppl.
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hater
I can't beleive ppl are bitching about Barea flopping. We have Bowen in our team ppl.
Fixed.
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George Hill definitely needs more minutes.
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EricB
I see no reason NOT to give bonner a couple plays at the beginning of the game.
For the record, the first play of Game 1 was ran for Bonner. Mason opted to not pass the ball to Bonner, though.
But yeah the Spurs need to run plays for Bonner early until he gets at least one open shot. About 95% of his good games this year can be attributed to him getting off to a fast start.
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Bonner and rasho nesterovic are similar players in this vein. When rash was force fed early with that freethrow line jumper, and when he made em, he had fantastic games. When bonner has been fed early in games this year, he more often than not goes on to have a good game. Do it tonight, If he still sucks then u play gooden and oberto.
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timvp
For the record, the first play of Game 1 was ran for Bonner. Mason opted to not pass the ball to Bonner, though.
But yeah the Spurs need to run plays for Bonner early until he gets at least one open shot. About 95% of his good games this year can be attributed to him getting off to a fast start.
I didn't see the first half but IMO it's gotta be multiple plUs not just one. It's put up or shut up time.
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When the Mavs go to Barea/Kidd, we should go to Parker/Hill.
That match up spells ownage.
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nkdlunch
IMO Spurs need to have Nowitzki touch the ball more often. We can't have the whole Dallas team involved or its gonna be ugly.
The more Nowitzki handles and shoots, the better for the Spurs
There is probably some truth to that...
Dirk was off and the Mavs still won...kinda scary for the Spurs.
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EricB
Bonner and rasho nesterovic are similar players in this vein. When rash was force fed early with that freethrow line jumper, and when he made em, he had fantastic games. When bonner has been fed early in games this year, he more often than not goes on to have a good game. Do it tonight, If he still sucks then u play gooden and oberto.
Rasho was on the Spurs for defense. Nothing else. The best way to get Rasho involved offensively was to take Duncan out of the game.
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sonic21
JJ Barea, Erick Dampier and Bass playing great in the same game was an anomaly.
believe
Yeah, and Timmy had a good game, Tony had a good game, you shot 11-14 from behind the arc, you limited Dirk and Jet combined to 31 points, and you STILL lost.
Both teams have reason to be concerned, the Spurs more so right now.
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Findog
Yeah, and Timmy had a good game, Tony had a good game, you shot 11-14 from behind the arc, you limited Dirk and Jet combined to 31 points, and you STILL lost.
Both teams have reason to be concerned, the Spurs more so right now.
+1. That first quarter and half of the 2nd was about as bad as were gonna play in this series. JET and Dirk won't be nonexistant again, either. Like I said before, it will take a MONSTER series out of both TP and TD to overcome the 4some of Kidd, JET, Dirk, and Jho. Not to mention we have the advantage off the bench as well. Once JJB gets hot, he tends to be really good for a multiple game stretch before coming back down.
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Findog
Yeah, and Timmy had a good game, Tony had a good game, you shot 11-14 from behind the arc, you limited Dirk and Jet combined to 31 points, and you STILL lost.
Both teams have reason to be concerned, the Spurs more so right now.
Whats odd about that?
Limiting Dirk and Jet to 31 was a product of the gameplan and isn't an anomaly either.
While the Spurs shooting was an anomaly, they are one of the best teams in the league with the 3-ball so it's quite possible they will throw up another game like that since they've been cold of late.
So what you're left with is Barea, Bass and Damp playing like they belong in Springfield vs the Spurs (one of the best in the league) shooting 11-14 from three. Not exactly a convincing argument.
Methinks the Mavs know that they can't survive the series relying on those three to shoot 60% night in and night out.
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Agloco
Whats odd about that?
Limiting Dirk and Jet to 31 was a product of the gameplan and isn't an anomaly either.
While the Spurs shooting was an anomaly, they are one of the best teams in the league with the 3-ball so it's quite possible they will throw up another game like that since they've been cold of late.
So what you're left with is Barea, Bass and Damp playing like they belong in Springfield vs the Spurs (one of the best in the league) shooting 11-14 from three. Not exactly a convincing argument.
Methinks the Mavs know that they can't survive the series relying on those three to shoot 60% night in and night out.
They don't need to...Dirk and Jet will do more regardless of scheme...
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Agloco
Whats odd about that?
Limiting Dirk and Jet to 31 was a product of the gameplan and isn't an anomaly either.
While the Spurs shooting was an anomaly, they are one of the best teams in the league with the 3-ball so it's quite possible they will throw up another game like that since they've been cold of late.
So what you're left with is Barea, Bass and Damp playing like they belong in Springfield vs the Spurs shooting 11-14 from three. Not exactly a convincing argument.
Methinks the Mavs know that they can't survive the series relying on those three to shoot 60% night in and night out.
:lol Limiting Dirk and JET to under 31 is very much so an anomaly. That's 15 points less than their average, and those are also the 2 Mavs that usually have big games against you guys. It probably won't happen again, but then again monster games out of Bass, Dampier, and JJB probably won't either. So the pendulum swings..
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game 2 adjustment: pop pulls his head out of his ass. 95% of the problem is Pop's silly rotations and certain aspects of his gameplanning.
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mavs>spurs
:lol Limiting Dirk and JET to under 31 is very much so an anomaly. That's 15 points less than their average, and those are also the 2 Mavs that usually have big games against you guys. It probably won't happen again, but then again monster games out of Bass, Dampier, and JJB probably won't either. So the pendulum swings..
Read my post again......
The Spurs game planned differently against them in Game 1. Hence the lower output. It's probable that fewer shots are going to be the norm for them.
My argument is that it's more likely that Jet and Dirk go for 30-ish again than the "three amigos" going for 40-ish while out shooting Jet and Dirk percentage wise.
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Agloco
Read my post again......
The Spurs game planned differently against them in Game 1. Hence the lower output. It's probable that fewer shots are going to be the norm for them.
My argument is that it's more likely that Jet and Dirk go for 30-ish again than the "three amigos" going for 40-ish while out shooting Jet and Dirk percentage wise.
True. Bass, Dampier, and JJB won't all 3 have career playoff games again all at once. Dirk and Terry can more than pick up their slack, though. It all comes down to if we can find some sort of answer to TD/TP.
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mavs>spurs
True. Bass, Dampier, and JJB won't all 3 have career playoff games again all at once. Dirk and Terry can more than pick up their slack, though. It all comes down to if we can find some sort of answer to TD/TP.
I think J Ho's output compensated well for Jet and Dirk. Not all the way, but enough.
I'm worried about J Kidd. I'm kinda surprised that you guys aren't talking more about the 2 points he put up as a reason for us to be scared.
I am.
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LEONARD
They don't need to...Dirk and Jet will do more regardless of scheme...
Probably. But it's less likely that Bass, Damp and Barea all go off like they did again, ever.
J Ho won't go for 25/per for the entire series either on a bad ankle.
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Agloco
Whats odd about that?
Limiting Dirk and Jet to 31 was a product of the gameplan and isn't an anomaly either.
While the Spurs shooting was an anomaly, they are one of the best teams in the league with the 3-ball so it's quite possible they will throw up another game like that since they've been cold of late.
So what you're left with is Barea, Bass and Damp playing like they belong in Springfield vs the Spurs (one of the best in the league) shooting 11-14 from three. Not exactly a convincing argument.
Methinks the Mavs know that they can't survive the series relying on those three to shoot 60% night in and night out.
Has it occurred to you that part of the reason those guys got so many open looks is that your defense was keying on Dirk and Jet? I think this is going to be a long series, but there are some flukes on both sides in G1 that I don't expect to continue.
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z0sa
game 2 adjustment: pop pulls his head out of his ass. 95% of the problem is Pop's silly rotations and certain aspects of his gameplanning.
95% of the Mavericks' playoff success against the Spurs in their history is due to Pop's rotations and gameplanning.
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Findog
Has it occurred to you that part of the reason those guys got so many open looks is that your defense was keying on Dirk and Jet? I think this is going to be a long series, but there are some flukes on both sides in G5 that I don't expect to continue.
That would be THE reason actually.
But you still don't expect those guys to go for 40 something and shoot around 60%......
It's going to be interesting to see if Pop abandons this approach after getting snakebit in the first game.
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Agloco
Methinks the Mavs know that they can't survive the series relying on those three to shoot 60% night in and night out.
As if the Spurs should just expect to shoot 11-14 from three night in and night out?