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Originally Posted by
fyatuk
Like I said, it's what I and every Christian I've ever met was taught. Whether they are on here or not saying it doesn't change that.
Like I said, it's always a great idea to tell someone that they are violating a major concept of their faith when you haven't even cracked open the book of their faith in 10 years.
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I don't see any of the acknowledged Christians on here disagreeing with me either, so you're jumping the gun a bit there. Are you a Christian and were you taught different?
:lol so that means they all agree?
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I know your obsessed with proving me wrong, but you haven't proposed anything to argue against the statement.
I could care less about another poster on an internet message board. You made a statement with nothing but your ass as a source and it's idiotic to do so.
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Someone posted Bible verses above relating to Jesus telling the Disciples to spread the word. Many denominiation and sects have taken that as a command to all followers, not just the specific subset of Disciples.
Name some of these "many" denominations that see it as a major violation to not discuss their religion when asked.
The Bible verses above refer to going and spreading the gospel. What Bible verse are you referring to that says it's a violation to not talk about it when asked?
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Although I would like to apologize for the second paragraph in my last post though. I went a little too far in my attempt to stress how little most of the "Christians" I know have paid any attention to the Bible, and ended up focusing too much on what I've studied. It was completely irrelevant and I shouldn't have gone there.
I agree that your posts are completely irrelevant. They are also completely ignorant.
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Originally Posted by
Winehole23
The Great Commission (Matthew 28:16-30, Mark 16:14-18, Luke 24:44-49, Acts 1:4-8 and John 20: 19-23) is widely held as authoritative.
Extra Stout?
"Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have." -- 1 Peter 3:15a
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Originally Posted by
Blake
Like I said, it's always a great idea to tell someone that they are violating a major concept of their faith when you haven't even cracked open the book of their faith in 10 years.
:lol so that means they all agree?
Why not, you used that logic to declare me wrong? :lol
If I'm wrong cause they aren't vocally agreeing with me, then you must be wrong because they aren't vocally agreeing with you.
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Originally Posted by
Blake
I could care less about another poster on an internet message board. You made a statement with nothing but your ass as a source and it's idiotic to do so.
I made a statement that should have included a disclaimer relating to what I and everyone I know was taught. I could probably go get quotes from my friends and family and other Christians I know to support it. That'd be kind of pointless though.
I'll admit that, to be technical, I should have included a disclaimer restricting it to every Christian I've ever met instead of every Christian. But it is fairly logical to extrapolate that kind of unanimous response over that kind of sample size (several thousand) to a larger body. May not be correct, but it is logical.
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Originally Posted by
Blake
Name some of these "many" denominations that see it as a major violation to not discuss their religion when asked.
1) I said violation of a major concept of their faith, not major violation. You keep trying your hardest to change what I said.
I know that's been taught in Baptist, Methodist, Episcapalion (sp), JW, and Mormon, at least in this area.
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Originally Posted by
Blake
The Bible verses above refer to going and spreading the gospel. What Bible verse are you referring to that says it's a violation to not talk about it when asked?
Well, gee. I already know I'll not go look something up for you, so forget that.
Sticking with the same verses, Jesus commanded the word be spread. If you refuse to talk about the faith, even when asked, that would be disobeying a command from God. Wouldn't that be a violation?
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Originally Posted by
Blake
I agree that your posts are completely irrelevant. They are also completely ignorant.
It's a message board, everyone's posts are completely irrelevant. I'm still waiting to see you make an even remotely compelling argument on anything, so I'll take that as a complement :p:
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Originally Posted by
fyatuk
Why not, you used that logic to declare me wrong? :lol
the "prove me wrong" line is always a fail. If you can't figure out why, you are an idiot.
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If I'm wrong cause they aren't vocally agreeing with me, then you must be wrong because they aren't vocally agreeing with you.
you're wrong because you have failed to source your quotes from anything other than your ass.
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I made a statement that should have included a disclaimer relating to what I and everyone I know was taught. I could probably go get quotes from my friends and family and other Christians I know to support it. That'd be kind of pointless though.
You're finally right on both counts. You should have posted a disclaimer or an "IMO" and it would be pointless.
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I'll admit that, to be technical, I should have included a disclaimer restricting it to every Christian I've ever met instead of every Christian. But it is fairly logical to extrapolate that kind of unanimous response over that kind of sample size (several thousand) to a larger body. May not be correct, but it is logical.
talking out of your ass is anything but logical.
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1) I said violation of a major concept of their faith, not major violation. You keep trying your hardest to change what I said.
:lol so violating a major concept of their faith is a minor violation?
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I know that's been taught in Baptist, Methodist, Episcapalion (sp), JW, and Mormon, at least in this area.
so I guess that covers all Christians
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Well, gee. I already know I'll not go look something up for you, so forget that.
Sticking with the same verses, Jesus commanded the word be spread. If you refuse to talk about the faith, even when asked, that would be disobeying a command from God. Wouldn't that be a violation?
Why are you asking me? According to you and your ass, you are certain that it's violating a major concept.
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It's a message board, everyone's posts are completely irrelevant. I'm still waiting to see you make an even remotely compelling argument on anything, so I'll take that as a complement :p:
Not true. If you post a legitimate source to back up your claims, then your posts become more relevant.
Your posts are irrelevant because you post no sources and admit that you haven't cracked a Bible in 10 years.
Well done.
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Originally Posted by
Blake
the "prove me wrong" line is always a fail. If you can't figure out why, you are an idiot.
Well, considering 2 people above have posted verses that support my original statement.
Besides, I told you before I don't take these things seriously. Just trying to wake up, and finding an argument is a good way to do that :toast
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Originally Posted by
Blake
you're wrong because you have failed to source your quotes from anything other than your ass.
I have provided no quotes what-so-ever. I have spoken fully from what I was verbally taught as a kid, and the discussions I've had with others, and have made no efforts to hide that.
So apparently, you can't even tell when someone is quoting or not. nice job.
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Originally Posted by
Blake
You're finally right on both counts. You should have posted a disclaimer or an "IMO" and it would be pointless.
talking out of your ass is anything but logical.
Yes, heresey is heresey. You really love the "talking out of your ass" line.
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Originally Posted by
Blake
:lol so violating a major concept of their faith is a minor violation?
It can be. It all depends on how you feel about shades of grey. Not everything's black/white you know.
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Originally Posted by
Blake
so I guess that covers all Christians
As much as any poll can be applied outside its base sample. Probably more accurately considering the agreement in the sample.
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Blake
Why are you asking me? According to you and your ass, you are certain that it's violating a major concept.
Just seeing if you can understand the concept of breaking a command from the Saviour can be seen as a violation of the faith. I'm guessing no...
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Originally Posted by
Blake
Not true. If you post a legitimate source to back up your claims, then your posts become more relevant.
Your posts are irrelevant because you post no sources and admit that you haven't cracked a Bible in 10 years.
Yep, and I won't for a message board. This is for fun, and I'll rarely bother to find a source for anything on the 'net. I've already explained that in several places on the board (and specifically to you). Sorry if you don't like that I don't take a message board serious enough to do research papers for it, tough noogies :p:
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Originally Posted by
Blake
Well done.
I'm wide awake now, so I'll say so.
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Sounds a lot like deism to me.
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when will boutons learn to use the quote function
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Originally Posted by
fyatuk
Well, considering 2 people above have posted verses that support my original statement.
Nope. Nothing in those verses say that it's a major concept of the Christian faith.
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Besides, I told you before I don't take these things seriously. Just trying to wake up, and finding an argument is a good way to do that :toast
do you always make ignorant posts out of your ass after just waking up?
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I have provided no quotes what-so-ever. I have spoken fully from what I was verbally taught as a kid, and the discussions I've had with others, and have made no efforts to hide that.
I don't think you've ever provided any quotes ever in any of your posts......which is why you are an ignorant fool that should shut the hell up instead of talking about violating major concepts of the Christian faith.
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So apparently, you can't even tell when someone is quoting or not. nice job.
I can tell when you're not.
You're not.
You also just said you provided no quotes, so apparently you can't even tell when you are quoting from a real source or just your ass. Nice job.
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Yes, heresey is heresey. You really love the "talking out of your ass" line.
You really love "talking out of your ass"
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It can be. It all depends on how you feel about shades of grey. Not everything's black/white you know.
You made it pretty clear that it's a violation of a major concept.
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As much as any poll can be applied outside its base sample. Probably more accurately considering the agreement in the sample.
more ass talking
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Just seeing if you can understand the concept of breaking a command from the Saviour can be seen as a violation of the faith. I'm guessing no...
just seeing of you can actually find any real source that says "a Christian refusing to talk about their religion when asked is violating a major concept of the faith." I'm guessing no...
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Yep, and I won't for a message board. This is for fun, and I'll rarely bother to find a source for anything on the 'net. I've already explained that in several places on the board (and specifically to you). Sorry if you don't like that I don't take a message board serious enough to do research papers for it, tough noogies :p:
If you find it fun to look like an idiot on message boards, then great! Good for you.
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I'm wide awake now, so I'll say so.
Well done.
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What is heresey?
Does the poster mean "heresy" or "hearsay"? LOL.
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Originally Posted by
Blake
Nope. Nothing in those verses say that it's a major concept of the Christian faith.
It's supporting evidence. Not a "smoking gun," but still supporting evidence. Like I said, I don't care enough to actually go look for anything. It's not like they're my beliefs :p:
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Originally Posted by
Blake
do you always make ignorant posts out of your ass after just waking up?
Not that I agree with ignorant, but when I'm having trouble staying a wake I tend to make a lot of posts and argue things for the hell of it. It's fun. I know you think so too :lol
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Blake
I don't think you've ever provided any quotes ever in any of your posts......which is why you are an ignorant fool that should shut the hell up instead of talking about violating major concepts of the Christian faith.
Didn't I just say I rarely (if ever) provide quotes? Wow, you won't even take my word on my own posts. That's just funny.
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Originally Posted by
Blake
I can tell when you're not.
You're not.
You also just said you provided no quotes, so apparently you can't even tell when you are quoting from a real source or just your ass. Nice job.
LOL. Okay... For this to make any sense what-so-ever, you'd have to prove I quoted something, WITHOUT KNOWING I quoted something. This just makes sooooooooooooo much sense.
Especially since you just agreed with my statement that I haven't provided any quotes.
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Originally Posted by
Blake
You really love "talking out of your ass"
You made it pretty clear that it's a violation of a major concept.
And then, when asked, I clarified that it was to the Christians I've known. Most people would have left it at that clarification, especially since you basically said earlier that if I had that as a disclaimer on the original post, you would have ignored it.
I mean, come on now...
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Originally Posted by
Blake
more ass talking
Okay, so you're saying taking data from a subset of people and applying to the whole at large is NOT a poll?
That's just idiotic. You want to claim unreliable data (coming from my conversations and memory, which you have access to a quote that can be taken out of context from me calling my memory fuzzy), or a biased poll, that's fine.
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Originally Posted by
Blake
just seeing of you can actually find any real source that says "a Christian refusing to talk about their religion when asked is violating a major concept of the faith." I'm guessing no...
Pretty idiotic when you know I won't even when I can. I see you like to waste time as much as I do.
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Originally Posted by
Blake
If you find it fun to look like an idiot on message boards, then great! Good for you.
You've said this to me before, and the answer is still the same.
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Supergirl
What is heresey?
Does the poster mean "heresy" or "hearsay"? LOL.
Sorry about that. Hearsay. Never claimed to be a competent speller, at least not recently.
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Originally Posted by
fyatuk
It's supporting evidence. Not a "smoking gun," but still supporting evidence. Like I said, I don't care enough to actually go look for anything. It's not like they're my beliefs :p:
if it is what you say, then it shouldn't be that hard to find for you.
of course, you don't care enough to actually go look for anything.
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Not that I agree with ignorant, but when I'm having trouble staying a wake I tend to make a lot of posts and argue things for the hell of it. It's fun. I know you think so too :lol
having trouble staying awake doesn't make you ignorant. Posting something as truth without anything to back it up with makes you ignorant.
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Didn't I just say I rarely (if ever) provide quotes? Wow, you won't even take my word on my own posts. That's just funny.
I've never seen you provide quotes, and that would include this thread.
I'll take your word for it that you never provide quotes, but it's not necessary as I can see that for myself.
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LOL. Okay... For this to make any sense what-so-ever, you'd have to prove I quoted something, WITHOUT KNOWING I quoted something. This just makes sooooooooooooo much sense.
Have you provided any quotes in this thread. In the end that's all I am suggesting you do.
I'm not surprised it doesn't make sense to you.
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Especially since you just agreed with my statement that I haven't provided any quotes.
Right. Because you haven't provided any.
I'm glad we agree that you don't provide quotes.
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And then, when asked, I clarified that it was to the Christians I've known. Most people would have left it at that clarification, especially since you basically said earlier that if I had that as a disclaimer on the original post, you would have ignored it.
and I clarified that you are ignorant and that you were talking out of your ass.
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Okay, so you're saying taking data from a subset of people and applying to the whole at large is NOT a poll?
I'm saying you have no poll, no data, no nothing.
Just ass talking.
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That's just idiotic. You want to claim unreliable data (coming from my conversations and memory, which you have access to a quote that can be taken out of context from me calling my memory fuzzy), or a biased poll, that's fine.
You were claiming something based on your own fuzzy memory.
That's just idiotic.
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Pretty idiotic when you know I won't even when I can. I see you like to waste time as much as I do.
Pretty idiotic when you claim you can but you really can't.
You are an ignorant fool.
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You've said this to me before, and the answer is still the same.
It wasn't a question. It was a statement that's still the same: if you have fun looking like an idiot on a message board then great! Good for you.
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Blake
if it is what you say, then it shouldn't be that hard to find for you.
of course, you don't care enough to actually go look for anything.
Correct. In this case it wouldn't be hard, and I don't care enough to.
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Originally Posted by
Blake
having trouble staying awake doesn't make you ignorant. Posting something as truth without anything to back it up with makes you ignorant.
No, that makes me LAZY. Ignorant would be posting something as truth without realizing it's wrong.
By this rule, if I posted "the sky is blue" without a picture or several documented accounts of reliable people calling the sky blue, I'd be ignorant.
I'm really starting to think you either have no idea what "ignorant" means, or you just like using the word even when it doesn't apply.
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Originally Posted by
Blake
I've never seen you provide quotes, and that would include this thread.
I'll take your word for it that you never provide quotes, but it's not necessary as I can see that for myself.
Have you provided any quotes in this thread. In the end that's all I am suggesting you do.
Wow... You are really going in circles on that one. You can suggest all you want, I still won't do it because it would be less entertaining for me. And entertainment is what my posting here is all about.
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Blake
I'm not surprised it doesn't make sense to you.
Because the way you said it makes no sense. You responded with
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You also just said you provided no quotes, so apparently you can't even tell when you are quoting from a real source or just your ass.
To me pointing out you statement of me failing to source my quotes was incorrect because I don't provide them. I mean seriously. Forget the rest of the conversation... Does your statement make ANY sense with the fact that we've both agreed I have not provided ANY quotes here...
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Originally Posted by Blake
Right. Because you haven't provided any.
I'm glad we agree that you don't provide quotes.
Okay, so is there a point to us both discussing the fact that I don't provide quotes?
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and I clarified that you are ignorant and that you were talking out of your ass.
And you haven't proved ignorance, only laziness (based on apathy).
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Originally Posted by Blake
I'm saying you have no poll, no data, no nothing.
LOL. Considering my data isn't documented on paper, I guess you can argue that. But you can't argue with the methodology or applying a sample to a larger section.
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Originally Posted by Blake
You were claiming something based on your own fuzzy memory.
Yup, I had 2 posters I had never paid serious attention to confused. That was stupid. I admitted and apologized for that.
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Pretty idiotic when you claim you can but you really can't.
Not really. Adds to the fun. If I back up everything I say that is right with the appropriate annotations, kind of makes it impossible to argue the wrong side once in a while for the fun of it. Besides, like I said, I have no interest in doing research papers for a message board.
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You are an ignorant fool.
Still waiting for proof of ignorance. I'm certainly a fool (in the court jester sense), and I absolutely qualify as apathetic and lazy, though.
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It wasn't a question. It was a statement that's still the same: if you have fun looking like an idiot on a message board then great! Good for you.
Oh, so you're just repeating yourself ad nauseum again. Gotcha.
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Originally Posted by
fyatuk
Correct. In this case it wouldn't be hard, and I don't care enough to.
No, that makes me LAZY. Ignorant would be posting something as truth without realizing it's wrong.
You don't care enough to look it up. You don't realize you are wrong.
We have long ago concluded you are lazy. You are apparently ignorant of your ignorance. congratulations.
I'm beginning to think you enjoy getting owned more than Galileo.
sense this thread is a goner, I'm curious, did you actually go to utsa or were you trying to defend those utsa freaks for the hell of it?
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Blake
You don't care enough to look it up. You don't realize you are wrong.
I'm not in this case.
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Blake
We have long ago concluded you are lazy. You are apparently ignorant of your ignorance. congratulations.
I'm beginning to think you enjoy getting owned more than Galileo.
sense this thread is a goner, I'm curious, did you actually go to utsa or were you trying to defend those utsa freaks for the hell of it?
I think I've been on UTSA campus once for a HS acadmic meet. And honestly, if I could afford to go back to college (and decided to do real classes instead of online), TX State would be a better fit for my interests.
My defense of the "freaks" consisted mostly of "it wasn't entirely their fault."
We did a pretty good job of massacring this thread, didn't we :downspin:
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BacktoBasics
LOL @ all you guys responding to a poster who clearly just wanted to spam the website in his sig.
*facepalm*
I only pay attention to signatures when they have hot chicks in them.
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fyatuk
I'm not in this case.
you didn't back up your source.
I know it's fun to run around saying you're right just because you think so, but it doesn't prove the claim you tried to make.
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My defense of the "freaks" consisted mostly of "it wasn't entirely their fault."
actually it was mostly all their fault. I'd show the proof, but the threads have been deleted. If you ask Kori, she'll verify, although you'll probably still figure out a way to think it wasn't their entirely their fault.
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Blake
you didn't back up your source.
I know it's fun to run around saying you're right just because you think so, but it doesn't prove the claim you tried to make.
Never tried to prove it, but that doesn't make me wrong either :p:
And no, let's not pick that up again, I'm done with that for now.
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Blake
actually it was mostly all their fault. I'd show the proof, but the threads have been deleted. If you ask Kori, she'll verify, although you'll probably still figure out a way to think it wasn't their entirely their fault.
I watched a lot of it, and it was quite a bit their fault. Definitely strongly on the majority side of it. But it wouldn't have gotten that bad if they other side had been less antagnonistic about everything. Originally the antagonization was funny, but you could see it was going to lead to something stupid a couple days before it did.
Regardless, it's not appropriate to discuss this here, so let's call it a thread. If you really want to continue, use PM.
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101A
Went to a UU congregation auction/fund-raiser this weekend. Nice people. Nothing religious binds them together per se, but they are all liberal.
Was it Henry James who said civilization is little more than the social propriety of a third rate Boston colonial...?
Not just liberal, but uber-liberal, haut-liberal even.
I was maybe 11 or 12 when I went to the UU in SA. This would've been 1978-9. It definitely weirded me out, but in the end I liked their chili, and the bigger girls chased me around all night, so it wasn't a total loss.
