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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
Opposing gay marriage is by definition bigotry.
Think what you want but it is what it is.
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
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Originally Posted by
jack sommerset
Men fucking men. Still makes me laugh and cringe. Obviously its not against the law to suck each other off so it should not be against the law to get married. After they are married maybe they will stop sucking each other off.
Jealous much?
Being gay isn't 100% about the sex. The topic is gay marriage and a would be Miss America.
Why are you mining the theme of gay oral sex, Jack? Is it relevant to you in some way?
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
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Originally Posted by
Winehole23
Jealous much?
Being gay isn't 100% about the sex. The topic is gay marriage and a would be Miss America.
Why are you mining the theme of gay oral sex, Jack? Is it relevant to you in some way?
:lol its called a joke. Don't be so serious all the time.
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
back to basics you are just as much a bigot as anyone else ... since you love throwing that word around so much.
you criticize ANYONE who disagrees with YOUR politics and the way Bill Maher tells you to view things. grow up bitch
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
America needs a return to traditional marriage: polygamy via property/monetary trades with the bride's parents.
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
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Originally Posted by
BRHornet45
back to basics you are just as much a bigot as anyone else ... since you love throwing that word around so much.
you criticize ANYONE who disagrees with YOUR politics and the way Bill Maher tells you to view things. grow up bitch
Whatever helps your bigoted conscious sleep at night.
You got a real hardon for Bill Maher don't you. I guess I can't form a statement or have an opinion without you pinning the blame on some kind of media persona. How very unclever of you. I criticize anyone who disagrees with my politics??? Really? You and I both know I've never done that. :rolleyes
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
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Originally Posted by
jack sommerset
:lol its called a joke. Don't be so serious all the time.
It was slightly funny. Like a mother in law joke, kinda hacky, but it has detectible humor.
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
let the fags get married would have been a better response than what this bible thumper gave
stupid whore
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
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coyotes_geek
......and the alleged insult to blacks for gays to try to draw similarities between their plights?
it's an insult because the similarities are extremely few and far between....... especially considering it was legal in America to beat the crap out of a Black man along with other things that gays have not ever had to endure in this country.
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
I also think that Perez had no business being a judge, no business asking that loaded question to a friggin beauty pageant chick, and no business blowing up on his website.
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
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Originally Posted by
Blake
it's an insult because the similarities are extremely few and far between....... especially considering it was legal in America to beat the crap out of a Black man [among other things] that gays have not ever had to endure in this country.
I see. So if we just make it legal to beat up gays then their claims will have equal merit. It's like a gang initiation thing. Gotta get your ass kicked before you can join the club.
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
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Originally Posted by
Blake
it's an insult because the similarities are extremely few and far between....... especially considering it was legal in America to beat the crap out of a Black man [among other things] that gays have not ever had to endure in this country.
Final answer?
In Alamo Heights (this would be mid eighties) guys bragged about dragging the bushes and beating the bathrooms at Olmos Park for queers. Baseball bats were just the thing for it.
Whereas I thought it was unseemly to cruise Olmos Park for any reason. Each to his own taste. Even if the stories I heard are total bs, the bolded above is obviously overqualified, to the point of being total bs itself.
If you want to say racism and homophobia are don't bear much comparison, that is one thing, but you just suggested gays *have not ever had to endure* bigoted violence and random terror.
IMO this opinion is objectively false.
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
Whether or not you agree with her, that insipid little faggot (see, I can hurl insults just like the idiot Perez) asked for her OPINION, and he got it! He had no business asking such a politically loaded question.
This is still America and people have a right to their own opinions. She didn't say everyone should feel the way she did - she just said that was the way she was raised and that's what she believes.
The fact that she's being attacked by the left shows that tolerance only goes one way. The only thing they tolerate are views that they agree with!
But I love how it's backfired so gloriously against Perez and the rest of his hateful crowd!
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
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Originally Posted by
Crookshanks
Whether or not you agree with her, that insipid little faggot (see, I can hurl insults just like the idiot Perez) asked for her OPINION, and he got it! He had no business asking such a politically loaded question.
This is still America and people have a right to their own opinions. She didn't say everyone should feel the way she did - she just said that was the way she was raised and that's what she believes.
The fact that she's being attacked by the left shows that tolerance only goes one way. The only thing they tolerate are views that they agree with!
But I love how it's backfired so gloriously against Perez and the rest of his hateful crowd!
People have a right to think she is an idiot and express that, even if it does get the right all butthurt.
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
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Originally Posted by
coyotes_geek
I see. So if we just make it legal to beat up gays then their claims will have equal merit. It's like a gang initiation thing. Gotta get your ass kicked before you can join the club.
If it were ever legal to beat up gays, then absolutely their claims have equal merit.
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
OIC, it's a measuring contest. Whose victimhood is more worthy.
I think I'll leave that to the self-appointed actuaries of PC and get on with my life thanks.
Do continue, Blake.
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
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Originally Posted by
Winehole23
Final answer?
In Alamo Heights (this would be mid eighties) guys bragged about dragging the bushes and beating the bathrooms at Olmos Park for queers. Baseball bats were just the thing for it.
Whereas I thought it was unseemly to cruise Olmos Park for any reason. Each to his own taste. Even if the stories I heard are total bs, the bolded above is obviously overqualified, to the point of being total bs itself.
If you want to say racism and homophobia are don't bear much comparison, that is one thing, but you just said gays *have not ever had to endure* bigoted violence.
IMO this opinion is objectively false.
In Alamo Heights in the mid 80s it was illegal to hit a "queer" with a baseball bat.
I may have not worded my post the way I meant it to sound.
I meant that gays have never had to endure legal beatings among many other legal things a white man could do to a black man.
There are plenty of instances that people that were different than others were dragged back into some bushes to get the crap beat out of them, whether it was for physical or even philosophical differences.
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
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Originally Posted by
Winehole23
OIC, it's a measuring contest. Whose victimhood is more worthy.
Legally speaking, in what way(s) have gays been victims?
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
If a gay man and a gay woman want to get married; I think they can, can't they?
See. No discrimination.
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
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Originally Posted by
Blake
In Alamo Heights in the mid 80s it was illegal to hit a "queer" with a baseball bat.
It wasn't much punished that I saw, but then again, maybe it never happened.
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I may have not worded my post the way I meant it to sound.
Ok. That could happen to anybody.
Maybe I overread you a little. Sorry about that, Blake.
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
I think she answered it honestly and good for her. She's smart enough to take advantage of the situation presented her.
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
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Originally Posted by
Blake
Legally speaking, in what way(s) have gays been victims?
If I was a little more bored than I am right now, I might look into that for you.
I'll confess to knowing not very much about it.
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
I have more of a problem with the fact she seemed rather stupid than with her opinion. She did not have a clear way of expressing what she believed nor did she exhibit any depth of thought with regards to the issue. She could have discussed ways the state can insure legal rights for same sex couples without the institution of marriage, but she did not.
And while Hilton is a tool, her response is just to say she will pray for him rather than to discuss the issue being raised. She epitomizes what bothers people about those who claim to be religious but have no apparent depth of examination.
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean
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Originally Posted by
angel_luv
Carrie is a real winner, in my opinion- regardless of the outcome of the pageant.
I think it is awesome the way Carrie stood up for her beliefs and how she is handling the very public repercussions of her courageous choice.
There's nothing courageous about promoting the status quo.
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Re: Miss California: Carrie Prejean