Re: U.S. plans to accept several Chinese Muslims from Guantanamo
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Wrong Place, Wrong Time
So how did Uighurs get to Guantánamo?
Fleeing Chinese oppression, many Uighurs found their way to Afghanistan where they were living in a self-contained camp when the US attacked in October 2001. They were captured in the wake of the fighting, many of them by Pakistani bounty hunters who proceeded to sell them to US forces.
Twenty-two Uighurs ended up in Guantánamo, joining others with the undeserved Rumsfeldian sobriquet "the worst of the worst." After "interviewing" them extensively by late 2003, US interrogators had concluded that few, if any, were a threat.
Under international law, the only country required to accept displaced persons is their country of origin. But China had been making a practice of incarcerating Uighurs with little if any proof of any involvement in violent acts. The Uighurs in Guantánamo did not want to trade one prison for another.
No third country, however, would accept them – except Albania, which welcomed five in 2006
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ElNono
A federal judge did make that claim.
Really? It's a rare thing for a ruling to be innocent. Even though the idea of this nation is innocent until found guilty, rulings are most often guilty or not guilty. An actual innocent ruling is rather rare.
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Originally Posted by
RandomGuy
If I had a spare room, I would be perfectly comfortable letting one stay in my house.
Well duh, you're a liberal. You hate America and love terrorists.
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Originally Posted by
Wild Cobra
Really? It's a rare thing for a ruling to be innocent. Even though the idea of this nation is innocent until found guilty, rulings are most often guilty or not guilty. An actual innocent ruling is rather rare.
First of all, did I say the judge ruled them innocent? No, I said a judge claimed they're innocent.
And you're well aware of this judge's ruling, as I pasted it in these very forums a long while ago, and we've discussed it.
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Send them back to China, what China does to them is China's bussiness.I can see no possible advantage to me to have them here.why take up good farm land housing their asses.
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hope4dopes
Send them back to China, what China does to them is China's bussiness.I can see no possible advantage to me to have them here.why take up good farm land housing their asses.
Why do you support communist oppression?
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If they're Chinese terrorists, then let China deal with them. I'm certainly no fan of the repressive government in China, but do we really want to take a chance on pissing them off when they own such a massive amount of our debt?
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Crookshanks
If they're Chinese terrorists, then let China deal with them. I'm certainly no fan of the repressive government in China
Your call to send them back to Chinese repression makes you a fan of Chinese repression.
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but do we really want to take a chance on pissing them off when they own such a massive amount of our debt?
Man, board Republicans are ready to abandon their claimed principles at the drop of a hat these days, aren't they?
You didn't notice of course, but we already made a little quid pro quo with China to satisfy them.
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Originally Posted by
ChumpDumper
Your call to send them back to Chinese repression makes you a fan of Chinese repression.Man, board Republicans are ready to abandon their claimed principles at the drop of a hat these days, aren't they?
Terror turns values voters into champions of situational ethics.
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
You didn't notice of course, but we already took made a little quid pro quo with China to satisfy them.
You mean letting the Chinese interrogate the Uighurs at Gitmo? I wonder how that was a good idea. Maybe Crookshanks can tell us.
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Change of plans folks:
May 30, 2009 8:09 PM
The Obama administration asked the U.S. Supreme Court Friday to reject a request for a hearing from 17 Chinese Muslims currently being held at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, arguing they have no right to come to America despite a district judge's orders last Fall that they immediately be brought to the U.S. and released.
"Petitioners are free to return to their home country, but they understandably do not wish to do so, because they fear inhumane treatment there," reads the filing, signed by US Solicitor General Elena Kagan, Assistant Attorney General Tony West, and other Justice Department officials. "Petitioners are also free to go to any other country that is willing to accept them."
Many European countries are waiting for the US to accept the Uighurs before they agree to accept any more detainees from Guantanamo, but there is strong resistance from Congress, which recently voted to keep any detainees out of the US -- even out of US prisons.
But not to worry -- the Obama administration says the Uighurs' detention isn't so bad, considering.
"In contrast to individuals currently detained as enemies under the laws of war, petitioners are being housed under relatively unrestrictive conditions, given the status of Guantanamo Bay as a United States military base," Kagan writes, saying they are "in special communal housing with access to all areas of their camp, including an outdoor recreation space and picnic area." They "sleep in an air-conditioned bunk house and have the use of an activity room equipped with various recreational items, including a television with VCR and DVD players, a stereo system, and sports equipment."
On October 7, 2008, the D.C. District Court Judge Ricardo Urbina ordered that all 17 Uighurs be released into the United States by Friday, October 10.
The Bush administration appealed the case to the DC Circuit Court which on February 18, 2009, reversed the lower court's decision.
On April 3, 2009, the Uighurs asked the US Supreme Court to hear their case.
The Obama administration on Friday urged the Supreme Court to not hear the case of the Uighurs, and to uphold the appellate court ruling.
I think they should let them in the US and live next to humpdump since he doesnt seem to concerned about it and if they happen to go psycho and go jihadi on his butt it wont be a big loss.
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If they are anything like the Uighurs who have already been released, I wouldn't have a problem with it. I didn't know so many posters here supported Chinese communist suppression.
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ChumpDumper
If they are anything like the Uighurs who have already been released, I wouldn't have a problem with it. I didn't know so many posters here supported Chinese communist suppression.
We're just opposed to terrorists trained by al Qaeda.
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You are in favor of Chinese communist suppression too.
That is quite possible for hypocrites.
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ChumpDumper
You are in favor of Chinese communist suppression too.
That is quite possible for hypocrites.
I'm in favor of not having al Qaeda trained terrorists of any color running loose in this country. Particular when it seems they'll be living on my dime.
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Yonivore
I'm in favor of not having al Qaeda trained terrorists of any color running loose in this country. Particular when it seems they'll be living on my dime.
Because you favor Chinese communist suppression, we get it.
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ChumpDumper
Because you favor Chinese communist suppression, we get it.
No, because there's no guarantee they won't ply their trade here.
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America looks stupid and scared trying fob these unconvicted guys off on other countries, when America itself doesn't have the balls to take them in.
The wrongies here talk like these guys are kryptonite to America's super-hero status.
16K Americans are murdered every year by ... Americans, mostly white-on-white, and black-on-black.
FBI couldn't keep an eye on these guys?
Shows stupid dubya was to round these guys up. Now we own them, and don't want them, and they aren't sellable.
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Yonivore
No, because there's no guarantee they won't ply their trade here.
I guarantee they won't revolt against communist Chinese oppressors here.
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Re: U.S. plans to accept several Chinese Muslims from Guantanamo
Oh shit, we got some darkies running 'round.
