Low-level flight panics New York
That's right Mr. President. Scare the hell out of people.
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Low-level flight panics New York
That's right Mr. President. Scare the hell out of people.
Too bad it was the Air Force that came up with and signed off on this whole idea and that the White House didn't. But that's okay, don't let reality get in your way.
Wrong. That was yesterday's news account from the BBC. This mornings radio news has it that it did come from the White House, directing this photo op.Quote:
Originally Posted by ballijuana
Who's the Maverick now?
"Hey Goose, let's buzz the tower!"
COLOSSAL STUPIDITY
Yeah, the White House's Military Command i.e. the Defense Dept/Air Force. Obama didn't even know about it and was "furious" when told.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
So I don't really care what some back-asswards, Rush carrying, AM station told you. I'll stick with the AP.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...HVqXQD97RFTKG0
And before you come back with some lame ass attack about Obama not knowing it was happening: I think he's got bigger things to deal with right now than keeping his personal eyes trained on what the military is doing with the spare Air Force 1 jet.
From this morning's ABC News:
Calerdra is the Director of the White House Military Office. You can be sure that president Obama at least knew about this. I would say he likely asked for it.Quote:
The head of White House Military Office apologized for the incident late Monday.
"Last week, I approved a mission over New York. I take responsibility for that decision," said Louis Caldera.
Yeah between gitner, napolitano,and the rest it's like spanky and his gang in the whitehouse.
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Meh, the Director of the WH Military Office never talks to the Commander In Cheif.
Of course president Obama's going to lie about such a stupid stunt. You really believe the mainstream media that has supported him all along?Quote:
Originally Posted by ballijuana
AP is part of the Alphabet News Networks. They are protective of their pet president.
Yep, I'm sure that's what the liberals here think.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
:lol God I hope I don't hear some lame law suit being filed for this one. Silly!!!!! Other than that its really funny thinking of the nut jobs running around the city thinking they were under attack from air force one
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It would be interesting to know who those people's papers endorsed for presidential elections...Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
I'll bet it was overwhelming support for our current president.
Minus a few wing-nut idiot papers like the San Diego Trib, who didn't? The Salt Lake Tribune, i.e. the largest newspaper in the reddest state in America, endorsed Obama. I'm sorry dude, but Palin is a fucking moron and McCain was absolutely lost. So say what you want about endorsements, but let's not pretend that the republican ticket wasn't a complete fucking joke, thereby forcing any paper with any common sense whatsoever, to pull the lever for Obama. Whether they liked him much or not, at least he wasn't McCain/Palin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
You believe as you do because you drink their Kool-Aid.Quote:
Originally Posted by ballijuana
does amanda think this is important?
Being that I live 40 minutes away from NY, and that I have friends working there, I can attest there was scenes of panic, and this whole thing was handled really, really bad.
They SHOULD have informed the public earlier. I don't care if it was 30 minutes before they did it, so they could reach a compromise between security and safety.
But this was terrible. My wife was telling me a co-worker of her had her son in the city, and was calling and telling her about this whole surreal scene in the city streets.
Poor judgement doesn't even begin to describe this thing... :td
impeach Obama. what a fuckup of monumental proportions!!!
this is 10x worse than starting a fake war in Iraq :pctoss
imagine how terrifying it must be to live near an airport.
Ironic ForumQuote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
I would tend to agree. This was one of those things that slipped through the cracks of common sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
That said: BFD.
It seems the whole Obama presidency so far has slipped through the cracks of common sense, if poor judgement is used in such mundane things, it would be logical to assume the same kind of poor judgment may be used in more vital matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
No kidding.Quote:
Originally Posted by hope4dopes
I don't like senator McCain's political views much, but at least he has common sense.
common sense led him to select palin.......and have phil graham as his economic genius.
Yes thank God we now have a collection of arrogant tax cheats,wall street special intrests, and a mind like napolitano in charge.uh,uh,uh,uh,uh,uh,uh,that's all folks.Quote:
Originally Posted by clambake
:lol if he knew how to follow a lead, he'd still be chopping wood for 4 more months.Quote:
Originally Posted by hope4dopes
I know teleprompter malfunctions, Ipods as gifts.. :rolleyesQuote:
Originally Posted by hope4dopes
Do you guys smell that?
It's the smell of the tears from the right, still crying about losing the election by a landslide.
Mmmm. Tastes good.
Wow...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cry Havoc
If pointing out a true blunder is thought of that way, what was the left doing when their guys Kerry and Gore lost to Bush for those 8 years?
Civics 101. we all participate in self governing no matter who wins what. Despite what the left would like to have happen, winning the election does not cancel out the constituton,or the bill of rights, so the Magna Carta of the second Camelot can be proclaimed.So unfortunatelly people will think for themselves and voice dissent and will not be getting thrills of pleasure running up and down their legs at obama's pecs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cry Havoc
^ lol at this fag talking constitutional breaches after 8 years of Bush. Sorry there ace, but Obama's done nothing to jeopardize any of the documents you incoherently accuse him and his supporters of destroying. So fuck off.
Oh and another thing a 7% margin in the popular vote is not a LANDSLIDE, but perhaps like another of your heros said.
'If you tell a big lie often enough and loud enough it will become the truth"
The Media has proclaimed this dolt a Messiah not America,we get to vote for the lesser of two evils.
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Originally Posted by hater
I knew this reflex response was coming.
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Originally Posted by RandomGuy
Really? Wow.
Really? Big fucking deal?
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Originally Posted by ballijuana
"fag"? Ah the left at it's intellectual fittest, lets see a woman who doesn't agree with you is a "cunt" and a man who doesn't agree with you is a "fag".
You really need to get out of suburbia I don't know but something about it has screwed you up with an obsession with sex and violence, perhaps too much t.v. and video porn. You might get out and meet a real homosexual and realize they don't want to have sex with you, so you don't have to be afraid of them.
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Originally Posted by hope4dopes
Hahah... coming from the person who always states that liberals have tingles running up and down their legs when they see Obama. That's rich.
WTF was the President thinking?
"Hey, take me in lower. I want to see my subjects..."
No fucking sense.
Yes. Seriously. :sleepQuote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
Wake me up when Obama sends a hundred thousand troops into the middle of a low level conflict without any armored vehicles.
He wasn't actually in the plane. What's retarded about this is that it was merely a photoshoot to update the collection of pictures of Air Force One.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkReign
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Originally Posted by DarkReign
The only reason to hype this is simple emotional payback by the right for having to defend Bush for 8 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by BBC story linked in OP
Yet another in a long line of fucktarded nothings coming out of the nutjobs that set the narrative for the right wing of this country.
I actually have to add that at least they apologized for it afterwards. That's certainly refreshing and a departure from 'I can't think of anything I've done wrong as President'.
Please let me know who in the 'media, proclaimed him to be the messiah ( 'If you tell a big lie often enough and loud enough it will become the truth")?Quote:
Originally Posted by hope4dopes
You are such a big hypocrite you don't even realize it..:lmao
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
You aren't worth responding to.
If you tripped walking down the street and broke your toe, you'd blame Obama for his incompetence of city sidewalk construction.
Yes, because bringing Hitler into the conversation is really the way to show how credible your statements are. Nothing like Godwinning a thread, eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by hope4dopes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
End of thread.
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Originally Posted by RandomGuy
Actually, I think Iraq was a huge fucking mistake.
I also think this fly over was a huge fucking mistake.
This past winter when Portland had all that snow, Cobra actually blamed "stupid libtards" for not snowplowing it away fast enough.Quote:
If you tripped walking down the street and broke your toe, you'd blame Obama for his incompetence of city sidewalk construction.
So do you think Iraq=flyover?Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
http://www.boogeresque.com/images/mi...complished.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by hope4dopes
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Originally Posted by RandomGuy
Actually, a lot of those fucktards that were scared shitless in NY are Obama supporters. I'm sure they didn't appreciate the flashback.
<sigh>Quote:
Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
Uh, no. Didn't say that.
EDIT> Certainly didn't mean to imply that.
So, from now on, any time there's an Obama admin fuckup, you guys are just gonna play the Iraq card?
Well, thats what I get for not reading the news today about it.
Kind of still a big deal, though. Sending people into a panic for a photoshoot is fucking stupid, dont care who you are.
I didn't state that. that is an actual quote, but it does capture the politiacal idealuoge pretty well.whether it's sexual or not I have no idea.But I think it potrays a certain depth of thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
Thanks. I figured you didn't but I'm glad you could see the implication :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
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Originally Posted by hope4dopes
:rollin:lmao:rollin:lmao:rollin:lmao
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Originally Posted by Cry Havoc
Actually I think he quote is attributed to Goerring who was the Minister of Propoganda, the refrence being to PROPOGANDA.
I think you'll see that a few people said it was stupid. But let's face it, no one will really care about this a week from now, will they? As far as "how important this event is in our lives" does it register even a 2 on the Emotional Richter Scale for the majority of the nation?Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
When Obama screws up majorly (like states secrets/FISA) then most of the liberals will call him out for it (and have). But don't expect us to make a big deal out of screwup that ultimatey didn't hurt anyone and was already apologized for.
I think the consensus is that the day "you guys" stop attempting to blame Obama for every single thing that not only goes wrong, but just against the right-wing ideals of perfection, he will stop being defended against things that aren't his fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
Oh, and lambasting him for something like this after defending Bush for so many years over so many fuck-ups is the reason for the rebuttal of Iraq. It's kind of like Tracy McGrady talking down to Brandon Roy because he doesn't have any rings. :lol
Damn skippy.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
Ain't it great having the blood of 3000+ dead servicemembers on your hands?
I will never EVER forgive the Republican party and right in general for defending the criminal negligence of the Bush administration's handling of post-war Iraq.
That albatross is exactly where it should be, around the collective neck of the Republican party.
You mean Joseph Goebbels, the guy who co-opted it from Hitler and modified it?Quote:
Originally Posted by hope4dopes
FAILQuote:
Originally Posted by edjumacationis4dopes
Goering was the Air Marshal, ( Generalfeldmarschall of the Luftwaffe) however, not the Minister of Propaganda.
He said this:
http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Hermann_Goering/Quote:
Originally Posted by Goering
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Goebbels who was the Reichsminister of Propaganda said this:
http://thinkexist.com/quotation/-if_...ng/345877.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Goebbels
Right you are.The point being The Media tells us we love Obama, despite the fact we don't love anyone in the political class, there is this sickening girlish swooning over this dolt that we're all laughing at and the loyaltists deny.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
What I find interesting is that we're supposed to be safer now that Obama has righted all the wrongs of the previous administration. The muslim extremists like us now that we've reached out to them and told them we won't torture them anymore.
So we shouldn't fear another attack - right? I guess all those New Yorkers didn't get the memo!
No I'm serious dude I don't think it's sexual. I really think a sizable group of people who voted for obama thought they were voting for an "American Idol" canidate. Didn't we.Quote:
Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
He hasn't. It's only you obsessed right wingers who are offering the ridiculous assertion that Obama is beyond reproach from the left. Not a single person on this board, no matter how left-leaning, has stated that Obama has fixed everything. In fact, most of us have stated how he hasn't even had time to do much good, either. I'm still on the fence about Obama's presidential term, because IT'S TOO EARLY TO TELL how it's going to do as president. But don't let that get in the way of convincing yourself that anyone who voted for Obama automatically sees him as the son of God reincarnate. :toastQuote:
Originally Posted by Crookshanks
Ahhh, the broken record of the right, after losing an election. I don't love Obama. Most posters on this board, even the "crazy lib'ruls" don't love Obama. We are just happy to see a president in office who isn't willing to completely annihilate what little respect the rest of the world has for us just to make his oil chairman V.P. happy and be buddy buddy with big business.Quote:
Originally Posted by hope4dopes
The collective albatross that the democrtas voted for to, and that Obama voted to fund several times.Not to worry though we can now go into Afganistan the "good" war.Tell me how are you going to forgive all the democrats who voted to go to war who voted to fund the war like obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
No most of his buddies are in banking.....Even crazy libreals, well no I shouldn't say that even most democrats especially those that supported Hilary were able to see a huge Media blitz to shove obama down peoples throats I mean even Hilary's people spoke out against it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cry Havoc
I supported the war in Iraq when it first started, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by hope4dopes
Of course, that was before I realized president Bush completely, openly lied to the entire American populace about intelligence had received concerning WoMD, before the Bush administration tried to make an incredibly ridiculous ploy on linking Iraq to Al-Qaeda in order to stoke the fears of the populace into becoming accepting of a war that they had lied about, before Bush sent troops into Iraq without so much as armor on their vehicles, and before I realized that it was nothing more than an obvious grab for money by Bush and Cheney to have access to oil so that they could give Haliburton a no-bid contract.
After those things happened, I revised my opinion on Iraq just a little bit. I guess it was my fault for not suspecting our president of lying to the American people.
Why am I responding to a troll? Hmm. I'll have to think about this question the next time I decide not to ignore you. :rollinQuote:
Originally Posted by hope4dopes
yes well that's a good point and leaves me with something to think about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cry Havoc
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Originally Posted by Cry Havoc
Oh yes that slippery old bush.Now Let's get this straight I',m supposed to believe that some of the most astute bloodthirsty political sharks on the entire planet, are in fact fifteen year old catholic school girls who somehow got lured into the broom closet by a village idiot from texas.Well your free to live with that illusion if you like, god knows we all have different ones, but please don't ask me to buy it.
You mean you changed your mind after being force fed the anti-war propaganda for 7 years. The libs did their best to constantly talk bad about the war - like "the surge has failed, the war is lost" Harry Reid. And the media went right along with it - only telling the bad stuff and spreading the propaganda every night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cry Havoc
No. It was all of the information that came out afterward that changed my mind. I am mildly surpprised that you and the other dead enders are oblivious to all of the information that has come out after the fact that refuted most of what bush sold..Quote:
Originally Posted by Crookshanks
Stupid gesture by the whitehouse for a cheap photo op.
cry havoc- you're becoming worse than manny on the obama cheer squad.
It was stupid not to inform the people of NY beforehand. Whoever gave the order to repress that information should resign.
Not much else to say.
Good memory, but that had to do with them spending money on pet projects instead of being prepared for known cyclical occurrence.Quote:
Originally Posted by ballijuana
Thats so funny!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
Funny? You mean funny, like this?Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
Now, it turns out the feds knew it would cause a panic and demanded secrecy anyway? Why?
FAA Memo: Feds Knew NYC Flyover Would Cause Panic
So, this administration has spent it's first 100 days trying to make our enemies feel better about us while scaring the beejebus out of U. S. Citizens. Nothing could have underscored this sentiment better than buzzing New York City with Air Force One...and, doing so pretty much on the same flight path as the jet that slammed into the South Tower. Nice call.
Yep, we're in the best of hands.
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Originally Posted by Yonivore
Hahaha....I did not read into it that much. I thought it was just funny!! I will say to those jack offs that preach "BUSH,BUSH,BUSH" whenever a problem comes up and blames him for everything deserve a little of ur take!
It was Bill Clinton's fault.
What I find funny is Obama's feigned outrage. Does anybody really believe that Obama didn't know Air Force One was flying around NYC?Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
If Air Force One is flying, then either (A) the President is on it, or (B) the President authorized it to fly without him. Because if one plane is in the air, that means Obama can't fly on the other one. So this little photo op was planned and authorized in advance.
What's the political benefit here? What does Obama gain by the ruse, if it is that?
Or is this more what you had in mind?
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There's plenty of feigned outraged in this thread. It'll be interesting to see how many pages the butthurt right can stretch this one out to. The iPod thread got up to 8.
It's hard to keep objectivity when such idiocy is being constantly thrown around on these boards. My political views have changed little -- my ability to tolerate such ridiculousness on this forum has decreased significantly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignignokt
This is quite possibly the most tasteless post I have ever seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
(shakes head)
I am dumbfounded.
Trying to score cheap political points using a video of people jumping to their deaths on 9-11 in a crass display of insensitivity, to point out a crass display of insensitivity.
Just when I thought the right couldn't possibly go any lower.
In-credible.
Aw, save it...Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomGuy
That's what those folks in battery park were seeing when AF1 approached.
hey yoni, maybe it was the octane.
what octane were you using?
People were jumping from windows because of the AF1? Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
You said that well. I wonder why the libtards just don't get it. Are they really that dumb, or in denial?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Psst.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crookshanks
It wasn't really AF1.
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I guess all righties get the inside scoop of what goes on in the Oval office. :rolleyes
Yeah, they "know" the president personally authorizes every flight and plans every photo op.
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Originally Posted by Winehole23
Nothing. It's something the resident conservatives can hang there hat on today.
Well I was just playing with semantics, but really -- it was a stupid idea and as I said whoever ordered keeping it a secret shouldn't have a job anymore. Thinking Obama personally made that order is equally stupid.
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
i love this place
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
....and has already requested an internal review be done to figure out whose stupid idea this was
Only because the president was allegedly not on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Airforce One is the call sign given to any airplane that carries the president.
I cannot help but wonder if he was really on the airplane, and wanted to see NY up close.
Photo Op my ass...
Much cheaper to photo-shop the pictures!