Another Blunder from the White House...

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

So do you think Iraq=flyover?

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<sigh>

Uh, no. Didn't say that.


EDIT> Certainly didn't mean to imply that.

So, from now on, any time there's an Obama admin fuckup, you guys are just gonna play the Iraq card?

Well, thats what I get for not reading the news today about it.

Kind of still a big deal, though. Sending people into a panic for a photoshoot is fucking stupid, dont care who you are.

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

Hahah... coming from the person who always states that liberals have tingles running up and down their legs when they see Obama. That's rich.

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I didn't state that. that is an actual quote, but it does capture the politiacal idealuoge pretty well.whether it's sexual or not I have no idea.But I think it potrays a certain depth of thought.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

<sigh>

Uh, no. Didn't say that.


EDIT> Certainly didn't mean to imply that.

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Thanks. I figured you didn't but I'm glad you could see the implication :)

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Originally Posted by hope4dopes

I didn't state that. that is an actual quote, but it does capture the politiacal idealuoge pretty well.whether it's sexual or not I have no idea.But I think it potrays a certain depth of thought.

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:rollin:lmao:rollin:lmao:rollin:lmao

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Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

Yes, because bringing Hitler into the conversation is really the way to show how credible your statements are. Nothing like Godwinning a thread, eh?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

End of thread.

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Actually I think he quote is attributed to Goerring who was the Minister of Propoganda, the refrence being to PROPOGANDA.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

So, from now on, any time there's an Obama admin fuckup, you guys are just gonna play the Iraq card?

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I think you'll see that a few people said it was stupid. But let's face it, no one will really care about this a week from now, will they? As far as "how important this event is in our lives" does it register even a 2 on the Emotional Richter Scale for the majority of the nation?

When Obama screws up majorly (like states secrets/FISA) then most of the liberals will call him out for it (and have). But don't expect us to make a big deal out of screwup that ultimatey didn't hurt anyone and was already apologized for.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

So, from now on, any time there's an Obama admin fuckup, you guys are just gonna play the Iraq card?

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I think the consensus is that the day "you guys" stop attempting to blame Obama for every single thing that not only goes wrong, but just against the right-wing ideals of perfection, he will stop being defended against things that aren't his fault.

Oh, and lambasting him for something like this after defending Bush for so many years over so many fuck-ups is the reason for the rebuttal of Iraq. It's kind of like Tracy McGrady talking down to Brandon Roy because he doesn't have any rings. :lol

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

So, from now on, any time there's an Obama admin fuckup, you guys are just gonna play the Iraq card?

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Damn skippy.

Ain't it great having the blood of 3000+ dead servicemembers on your hands?

I will never EVER forgive the Republican party and right in general for defending the criminal negligence of the Bush administration's handling of post-war Iraq.

That albatross is exactly where it should be, around the collective neck of the Republican party.

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Originally Posted by hope4dopes

Actually I think he quote is attributed to Goerring who was the Minister of Propoganda, the refrence being to PROPOGANDA.

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You mean Joseph Goebbels, the guy who co-opted it from Hitler and modified it?

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Originally Posted by edjumacationis4dopes

Actually I think he quote is attributed to Goerring who was the Minister of Propoganda, the refrence being to PROPOGANDA.

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FAIL

Goering was the Air Marshal, ( Generalfeldmarschall of the Luftwaffe) however, not the Minister of Propaganda.

He said this:

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Originally Posted by Goering

“Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.
Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

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http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Hermann_Goering/
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Goebbels who was the Reichsminister of Propaganda said this:

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Originally Posted by Goebbels

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie.
It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

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http://thinkexist.com/quotation/-if_...ng/345877.html

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Originally Posted by RandomGuy

Fail.

Goering was the Air Marshal, ( Generalfeldmarschall of the Luftwaffe) however, not the Minister of Propaganda.

He said this:




http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Hermann_Goering/

Goebbels who was the Reichsminister of Propaganda said this:



http://thinkexist.com/quotation/-if_...ng/345877.html

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Right you are.The point being The Media tells us we love Obama, despite the fact we don't love anyone in the political class, there is this sickening girlish swooning over this dolt that we're all laughing at and the loyaltists deny.

What I find interesting is that we're supposed to be safer now that Obama has righted all the wrongs of the previous administration. The muslim extremists like us now that we've reached out to them and told them we won't torture them anymore.

So we shouldn't fear another attack - right? I guess all those New Yorkers didn't get the memo!

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

:rollin:lmao:rollin:lmao:rollin:lmao

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No I'm serious dude I don't think it's sexual. I really think a sizable group of people who voted for obama thought they were voting for an "American Idol" canidate. Didn't we.

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Originally Posted by Crookshanks

What I find interesting is that we're supposed to be safer now that Obama has righted all the wrongs of the previous administration.

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He hasn't. It's only you obsessed right wingers who are offering the ridiculous assertion that Obama is beyond reproach from the left. Not a single person on this board, no matter how left-leaning, has stated that Obama has fixed everything. In fact, most of us have stated how he hasn't even had time to do much good, either. I'm still on the fence about Obama's presidential term, because IT'S TOO EARLY TO TELL how it's going to do as president. But don't let that get in the way of convincing yourself that anyone who voted for Obama automatically sees him as the son of God reincarnate. :toast

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Originally Posted by hope4dopes

Right you are.The point being The Media tells us we love Obama, despite the fact we don't love anyone in the political class, there is this sickening girlish swooning over this dolt that we're all laughing at and the loyaltists deny.

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Ahhh, the broken record of the right, after losing an election. I don't love Obama. Most posters on this board, even the "crazy lib'ruls" don't love Obama. We are just happy to see a president in office who isn't willing to completely annihilate what little respect the rest of the world has for us just to make his oil chairman V.P. happy and be buddy buddy with big business.

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Originally Posted by RandomGuy

Damn skippy.

Ain't it great having the blood of 3000+ dead servicemembers on your hands?

I will never EVER forgive the Republican party and right in general for defending the criminal negligence of the Bush administration's handling of post-war Iraq.

That albatross is exactly where it should be, around the collective neck of the Republican party.

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The collective albatross that the democrtas voted for to, and that Obama voted to fund several times.Not to worry though we can now go into Afganistan the "good" war.Tell me how are you going to forgive all the democrats who voted to go to war who voted to fund the war like obama.

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Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

He hasn't. It's only you obsessed right wingers who are offering the ridiculous assertion that Obama is beyond reproach from the left. Not a single person on this board, no matter how left-leaning, has stated that Obama has fixed everything. In fact, most of us have stated how he hasn't even had time to do much good, either. I'm still on the fence about Obama's presidential term, because IT'S TOO EARLY TO TELL how it's going to do as president. But don't let that get in the way of convincing yourself that anyone who voted for Obama automatically sees him as the son of God reincarnate. :toast



Ahhh, the broken record of the right, after losing an election. I don't love Obama. Most posters on this board, even the "crazy lib'ruls" don't love Obama. We are just happy to see a president in office who isn't willing to completely annihilate what little respect the rest of the world has for us just to make his oil chairman V.P. happy and be buddy buddy with big business.

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No most of his buddies are in banking.....Even crazy libreals, well no I shouldn't say that even most democrats especially those that supported Hilary were able to see a huge Media blitz to shove obama down peoples throats I mean even Hilary's people spoke out against it.

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Originally Posted by hope4dopes

The collective albatross that the democrtas voted for to, and that Obama voted to fund several times.Not to worry though we can now go into Afganistan the "good" war.Tell me how are you going to forgive all the democrats who voted to go to war who voted to fund the war like obama.

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I supported the war in Iraq when it first started, too.

Of course, that was before I realized president Bush completely, openly lied to the entire American populace about intelligence had received concerning WoMD, before the Bush administration tried to make an incredibly ridiculous ploy on linking Iraq to Al-Qaeda in order to stoke the fears of the populace into becoming accepting of a war that they had lied about, before Bush sent troops into Iraq without so much as armor on their vehicles, and before I realized that it was nothing more than an obvious grab for money by Bush and Cheney to have access to oil so that they could give Haliburton a no-bid contract.

After those things happened, I revised my opinion on Iraq just a little bit. I guess it was my fault for not suspecting our president of lying to the American people.

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Originally Posted by hope4dopes

No most of his buddies are in banking.....Even crazy libreals, well no I shouldn't say that even most democrats especially those that supported Hilary were able to see a huge Media blitz to shove obama down peoples throats I mean even Hilary's people spoke out against it.

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Why am I responding to a troll? Hmm. I'll have to think about this question the next time I decide not to ignore you. :rollin

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Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

Why am I responding to a troll? Hmm. I'll have to think about this question the next time I decide not to ignore you. :rollin

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yes well that's a good point and leaves me with something to think about.

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Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

I supported the war in Iraq when it first started, too.

Of course, that was before I realized president Bush completely, openly lied to the entire American populace about intelligence had received concerning WoMD, before the Bush administration tried to make an incredibly ridiculous ploy on linking Iraq to Al-Qaeda in order to stoke the fears of the populace into becoming accepting of a war that they had lied about, before Bush sent troops into Iraq without so much as armor on their vehicles, and before I realized that it was nothing more than an obvious grab for money by Bush and Cheney to have access to oil so that they could give Haliburton a no-bid contract.

After those things happened, I revised my opinion on Iraq just a little bit. I guess it was my fault for not suspecting our president of lying to the American people.

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Oh yes that slippery old bush.Now Let's get this straight I',m supposed to believe that some of the most astute bloodthirsty political sharks on the entire planet, are in fact fifteen year old catholic school girls who somehow got lured into the broom closet by a village idiot from texas.Well your free to live with that illusion if you like, god knows we all have different ones, but please don't ask me to buy it.

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Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

I supported the war in Iraq when it first started, too.

Of course, that was before I realized president Bush completely, openly lied to the entire American populace about intelligence had received concerning WoMD, before the Bush administration tried to make an incredibly ridiculous ploy on linking Iraq to Al-Qaeda in order to stoke the fears of the populace into becoming accepting of a war that they had lied about, before Bush sent troops into Iraq without so much as armor on their vehicles, and before I realized that it was nothing more than an obvious grab for money by Bush and Cheney to have access to oil so that they could give Haliburton a no-bid contract.

After those things happened, I revised my opinion on Iraq just a little bit. I guess it was my fault for not suspecting our president of lying to the American people.

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You mean you changed your mind after being force fed the anti-war propaganda for 7 years. The libs did their best to constantly talk bad about the war - like "the surge has failed, the war is lost" Harry Reid. And the media went right along with it - only telling the bad stuff and spreading the propaganda every night.

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Originally Posted by Crookshanks

You mean you changed your mind after being force fed the anti-war propaganda for 7 years. The libs did their best to constantly talk bad about the war - like "the surge has failed, the war is lost" Harry Reid. And the media went right along with it - only telling the bad stuff and spreading the propaganda every night.

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No. It was all of the information that came out afterward that changed my mind. I am mildly surpprised that you and the other dead enders are oblivious to all of the information that has come out after the fact that refuted most of what bush sold..

Stupid gesture by the whitehouse for a cheap photo op.