Manu would have never let us get embarrassed this way.
He is the balls of the team
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Manu would have never let us get embarrassed this way.
He is the balls of the team
fuck manu
Yeah, not too happy about Manu facebooking on the end of the bench when he should have taken the summer off. Pride in your country and all that, but he let us down big-time.
yes he embarrassed the spurs fans by playing for his country when hurtQuote:
Originally Posted by nkdlunch
this offseason
and people still wanna trade him, bunch of f'n idiots.
Outside of Timmy, Spurs played like fucking pussies in elimination game. Too much whining...no focus on D, no guts.
Manu is the reason why we've had long post-seasons. Most series would have been 4-1 , or 4-2 or whatever..
I trade him for bosh
Thanks for playing in the Olympics Manu.
I hope he's gone next year.
good luck with thatQuote:
Originally Posted by ducks
Yeah, he should be racking up double digit turnovers and leaving Kidd wide open for threes all night instead. Guess we'll have to leave that to Tony though...Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
If I'm the front office, I give him first half of next season, but if his ass is injured again, his expiring contract is outta here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
That's reasonable.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheProfessor
no spur has double digit turnoversQuote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
Still with no Manu, we shouldn't have lost to fucking Mavs in five games. I really thought we'd make it to the WCF even without Manu.
IMHO all 3 of the Spurs big 3 are equally valuable at this point. Manu was the defacto Spurs MVP a couple seasons back, and TP took the reigns the last 2 seasons. Timmay allows them to do what they do, but he needs them as much as they need him.
You must have been watching a different team for the past 2 months...Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
man i just feel so bad for timmy
Timmy deserves better than this :|
Thats how I feel right now unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by SequSpur
yeh thatQuote:
Originally Posted by SequSpur
fuck him and his commitment to his national team....his already done everything with the ARG national team, wat else is there to fukn prove? fuck that shit, where is your loyalty to the spurs....and plz the spurs better not offer a loyalty contract end of next season......Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt Bringdown
"fuck you manu for helping us win three championships"
role players are shit :pctoss
well he did costs us 2 championships in between those 3 championships, now do the maths? we couldve won 5 fukn straight titlesQuote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
In accepting less money that he should get to stay in SA.Quote:
Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY
:lobt2:Except he did. He was too stupid to keep himself healthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by nkdlunch
td did accept 2m lesser on his last contract to leave enough space for the spurs to sign gino on what he is earning now....Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
u r a dumb assQuote:
Originally Posted by SequSpur
I'm sure everyone already knew his importance. However, a championship team needs to have depth to make up for health issues, and the backups should be enough to get past the first round. The Spurs just didn't have it. They really never got anything going this year, and weren't better than the other 7 teams below the Lakers. Hopefully that'll be resolved next year.
So they're both loyal to the organization, what's your point?Quote:
Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY
commitment mate, you see that?Quote:
Originally Posted by DAF86
Pop made a lot of mistakes this season. If he would have let G Hill develop, they could have survived a bit longer without Manu. But to win a title, the Spurs needed the big 3 healthy. HOpefully all three of them will be back next year.
Fuck Manu.
I appreciate all the positive things Manu has done for this team but he really screwed the Spurs over by not resting last off season. I had advocated since last year to trade Manu while his value was high, that time probably won't be coming again anytime soon...
I'm bookmarking this thread. All you pieces of shit aren't welcome back on Manu's bandwagon when he comes back to play next year, sorry sons of bitches.
P.S. Manu or no Manu, we shouldn't have lost the way we did to this Mavs team. Besides, even with Manu, when your team plays as crappy as the Spurs played this series, you ain't got much of a future.
he's cost us at least two championship opportunities now...so until he helps us win 2 more, fuck him and his bandwagon. he has a big debt to pay off in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiAc
10.7 milQuote:
Originally Posted by init2winit
manu doesnt owe shit to you or the rest of these fairweather fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by peskypesky
Does being on Manu's "bandwagon" mean anything...I mean seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiAc
You're a dumbass. Playing in the olympics had nothing to do with the stress fracture in the right ankle. All NBA players play in a summer league or some kind of pick up competition regardless of whether it is the olympics or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheProfessor
You know how valuable Manu is when nobody else can create his own offense.
Or 82 games of never-ending-regular season that may cause fatigue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodney21a
Wrong, without Manu the spurs only have one championship. The basketball IQ of this forum is terrible!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by peskypesky
you make it sound like manu is irreplaceable on those championship teams and years in between?Quote:
Originally Posted by gregpschneid
yeah its really easy to replace a top 3 sg who was willing to come off the bench and competes like manu.Quote:
Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY
You were going to need a Kobe Bryant to make up for Manu in 2005 (and even then I'm not sure the Spurs woul have win it) and without 2005 you can forget of 2007 'cause the FO would have probably shipped Parker.Quote:
Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY
lol @ this thread
If Manu do something: his fault
If Manu do nothing: his fault
Just trade him and be happy :lmao
It's a difficult position to be in as an organization. When Manu is healthy, he's easily the best sixth man in the league and a top 5 SG. But if we can't get that production in the postseason, he's absolutely useless to this team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
If Manu is going through injury issues next year, do you look to move him at the trade deadline? Or, assuming you don't move him but don't have post-season success, do you re-sign him or renounce his rights and seek a healthier option? There are difficult questions the Spurs' FO has to answer here, and it has little to do with his past performance.
lol @ argy fans who think ginoboli is top 3 sg in the league.....
But who say that?
Don't kid yourself, per minute statistically, when Ginobili's healthy, he's one of the best in the league. Maybe not top 3, but he's up there.Quote:
Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY
I didn't see any Argie saying that.Quote:
Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY
And LOl to emo Spurs fans that want to trade Manu even after realizing that our team sucks without him.
with the emergence of b roy, manu is probably 4 now.Quote:
Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY
in the clutch, theres very few people better than manu.
so yeah good job you dumbshit.
This is the very first playoffs he misses. I think the sensible thing is to take a look at him next season and see how he's doing. It's obvious you simply can't replace the guy for what he brings to the team every night. I think this series is so clear it's not even funny. He's a one man second unit.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheProfessor
So I'm sure the FO will see how he recovers, and if he's healthy I don't see why they won't offer an extension. He's still young, and I think he still has a lot to play.
As a side note,I won't entertain the whole 'he costs us X championships' (we're not in a position to contend if he's not there to begin with) or all the bitching about 'Playing in the olympics screwed the Spurs' (he got injured playing his heart out for the Spurs, both times). Injuries happen. Tim also missed an entire playoffs and it ended the same way. It was an even worse injury (meniscus), and I didn't see everyone wanting to trade the franchise player back then...
:rolleyes The only fans happier than Mav Fan tonight are Manu Fan.
On a per 48 minute basis, I believe only Kobe and Wade are better than him. And there are certain stats, like clutch shots where he is numero uno.Quote:
Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY
I don't think anybody is happy tonight... honestly.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
it was really sad to see TP and TD go to war without manu.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
absolutely depressing to see manu on the bench so believe me timvp, i'm not happy at all.
Question: Who would all this "trade Manu" suporterts blame if we do trade him and he ends up playing the entire next season at the level he's accustomed to play?
and this moron owns this site?????? you sure u r not ducks??????Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
timvp beign a douche, so what's new?Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Don't think the guy's value was ever in question. The problem is he's too invaluable at this point in time, which is actually a bad thing. He'll be back though, and the bench should be that much stronger to handle his absences or any regression.
Cmon now man, he has done alot for the ARGY team for the last few years now, world championships, olympics....his won all that, so what is there to fkn prove? over commit urself to some bs in the summer so you head into the upcomming nba season fatigue or risks missing it cause of sustain injury you got in the summer?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
you are comparing a young tim duncan franchise player 99/00 season where he got a knee injury to ginoboli? the same duncan that came back and won b2b mvps, championships?
I don't think they'll consider trading Manu this offseason, unless there's medical reasons why he won't be able to compete.
I do like the idea of seeing lots of Tony/Manu/GHill on the court together next year causing havoc for other teams.
Reading comprehension, guys.
If Manu rests this off-season, I'm content with having him healthy and heading into a contract year. It will be an interesting crossroads for this team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
Sure would make a badass backcourt....if you'll excuse my language. Strengthen the bench and you can still have TP or Manu play minutes with the second unit IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
First of all, people that blame our '06 loss solely on Manu are tards. Sure, he had the foul on Dirk that ended up letting them tie the ballgame. It was a play on the ball, ONE play. One play doesn't determine an entire series, it was not just Manu that dug us in the 3-1 hole in the first place, we should not have even been in the position to need a game 7 at home to take the series. I know that it's perfectly natural to try to place blame on somebody so that it's easier to swallow, I mean I even do it by calling Bonner a worthless piece of crap. But blaming Manu for getting injured is going overboard, IMO. It's easy to look BACK and see that he should not have played, but it was his decision, and Manu has earned enough in my book in taking less money, in happily going to the bench, in his play in the Finals '05, that I'm not just gonna throw him under the bus for a series he didn't even play in.
Be angry at Manu if you want, but saying "Fuck Manu" is just stupid after everything he's done for the Spurs and San Antonio.
we wouldn't have won the championship with manu either,
and Grant Hill would have been valuable to his various teams as well, but he wasn't, he was injured, it's part of the deal, some players stay healthy, some don't, manu won't stay healthy
Fuck you're mom...even if she's shorter than you.Quote:
Originally Posted by SequSpur
FUCK IT-I'll just hire a 5 dollar midget. Considering she might look like you it might cost 10 but it's worth the investment to kill you and shut you up.
Come to think of it? I don't think even a midget would fuck your ugly ass mom. Nevermind.
Look is pretty simple wait till next season if Manu does get injured or his level of play decreases, trade him. Remember he's an expiring contract next year, moving him won't be too hard, even if injured. But to trade him not knowing how good he'll be is just stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by vander
People like you like to yap yap yap and forget that he had his best playoffs during a season where he played for Argentina the summer before (2005). We also won in 2007, he played just fine, and he also balled the previous summer. The summer before last, he didn't play any ball, and he still got injured at the end of last season. And what did he have to prove? The guy simply wanted to defend the title they obtained the previous olympics. He had to have surgery either way, which he did and then he recovered perfectly fine. Then he suffered another injury on the other leg. Tough. Injuries happen. They happen to everybody. Sometimes they happen at inopportune times. Just ask Boston, who are in pretty much the same boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY
What I'm trying to point out is that people are bagging on him like he has aids. The guy is 31 and has not missed a postseason in 7 years. He played half of this season. But now he's injury prone, his body is breaking down, and we should trade a guy that was the Spurs top scorer, 6th man of the year, and 3rd team All-NBA just last season for pennies on the dollar because "he'll never be the same". The least you can do is give the guy a chance. If he gets injured next season again and the FO decides to trade him, then so be it. But some people here are acting like he lost games on purpose, or took a hammer to the fibula and injured himself. Truly a pathetic display.Quote:
Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY
Bashing Manu is really out of hand. You don't think he would have given anything to be out on the floor? Injuries happen. Whatever the circumstances, it's grossly unfair to trash him for being injured, considering how much of his heart, soul and guts he's poured into this franchise over the years.
manu misses a playoff game for the first time + spurs get destroyed without him = Trade Manu.
good logic.
its really easy to play the blame game and point the finger at players when the team is out of the playoffs......with all the crap that happen this season...no one is escaping the wrath of spursfans hahahahhaaQuote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
ps. dont worry kori, you will have to stick up with the majority of us for the next 5 long months hahahhahahahaha damn it be a boring off-season once again.....
ridiculously unfair to say that. I'm a Manu fan, and this series has got me so depressed I haven't posted for like a week...Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Having to see the Spurs going down to the Mavs and then coming in here and reading all the bullshit that that creates is sometimes too much.
+ 1Quote:
Originally Posted by kori ellis
For clarity, when timvp says "Manu fan" he isn't refer to everyone who likes Manu. He's talking about people who aren't fans of the Spurs and whose only goal is to praise Manu and bash all others along the way to make Manu look better. You know what type of Manu fans, I'm talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiAc
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
still moronic..... he's better than that.
Not exactly moronic. I'm sure those type of Manu fans are pretty happy right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by it's me
Of course Manu wanted to be out on the floor. Nobody's questioning his desire, but rather his judgement.
And yes, injuries happen - that's why playing in the Olympics was an unneccesary and foolish risk.
no player is bigger than the clubQuote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
in this case...only timmay is the exception hehe
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by capt bringdown
Well, the Olympics are more important than an NBA season and they are only every four years, so it was an udnerstandable risk. Guys, Argentina could also have been angry with the Spurs for letting him being injured in the Playoffs last year.
Or they could be angry now as he planned to to play this summer for his NT in order to focus on the Spurs.
And yes, he's won a lot with Argentina NT, but he also won three rings with the Spurs, so why should a fourth title be more valuable to him than defending Olympic Gold?
Parker will play for France every summer at least till 2012, he could get injured. Will then everybody bash him for letting the Spurs down, too?
For all of you bitches blaming Manu, fuck you! :bangIf anything, this shows how valuable Manu is to the team and how much having him covered up alot of the weaknesses this team have. Without him showed those weaknesses! I didn't hear anyone say that to Timmy or Parker when they played in the Olympics! Nobody got on them for representing their country! Anyway, we have to get rid of alot of the dead weight Bonner, Finley, Vaughn to name a few!
:tu I'm a fan of Manu but not a Manu Fan. To figure out if you are a Manu fan, it's pretty simple. If you are happy right now because the Spurs got eliminated and "proved how vital Manu is", then you are a Manu Fan. If not, you aren't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
And yes, it's extremely lame to blame anything on Manu. There's no doubt that he would have been out there if possible. There's no doubt he'll try his hardest the rest of his career to bring a fifth championship to San Antonio. The guy is a warrior and one of the top winners in basketball history.
That Glassy Bitch!
Yeah, and fuck him, he was born in 1977 and he landed in SA en 2002, too late. We lost 25 straight titles because he did not get here before.Quote:
Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY
Screw him! Fuck him!:bang
It's not so much that Manu played in the Olympics...it's that he was injured and should have taken the summer off to heal. Instead, he just made his injury worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by sammy
Manu Ginobili will come back strong. So will Tim Duncan and Tony Parker. I would like to see Drew Gooden get a chance to be in the rotation next year. The future is bright. The Mavs will still have no titles. The Suns will still have no titles and we can start over fresh next year. The season is over. Let the league have their Cleveland/LA final which will be a media lovefest for LeBron and Kobe. I may watch if I don't throw up after hearing how this is the greatest final since Bird vs Magic and all the "who is the real MVP?" talk.
It would be so funny if the finals ended up being Orlando vs Denver ! Stern can't let that happen though.
Fairweather fans. The only positive thing about this season is that it'll hopefully drive all the whining bandwaggoners away.