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Re: Now you know how valuable Manu is
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Originally Posted by
TDMVPDPOY
you make it sound like manu is irreplaceable on those championship teams and years in between?
You were going to need a Kobe Bryant to make up for Manu in 2005 (and even then I'm not sure the Spurs woul have win it) and without 2005 you can forget of 2007 'cause the FO would have probably shipped Parker.
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lol @ this thread
If Manu do something: his fault
If Manu do nothing: his fault
Just trade him and be happy :lmao
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Re: Now you know how valuable Manu is
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Mugen
yeah its really easy to replace a top 3 sg who was willing to come off the bench and competes like manu.
It's a difficult position to be in as an organization. When Manu is healthy, he's easily the best sixth man in the league and a top 5 SG. But if we can't get that production in the postseason, he's absolutely useless to this team.
If Manu is going through injury issues next year, do you look to move him at the trade deadline? Or, assuming you don't move him but don't have post-season success, do you re-sign him or renounce his rights and seek a healthier option? There are difficult questions the Spurs' FO has to answer here, and it has little to do with his past performance.
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lol @ argy fans who think ginoboli is top 3 sg in the league.....
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Re: Now you know how valuable Manu is
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Originally Posted by
TDMVPDPOY
lol @ argy fans who think ginoboli is top 3 sg in the league.....
Don't kid yourself, per minute statistically, when Ginobili's healthy, he's one of the best in the league. Maybe not top 3, but he's up there.
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Re: Now you know how valuable Manu is
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TDMVPDPOY
lol @ argy fans who think ginoboli is top 3 sg in the league.....
I didn't see any Argie saying that.
And LOl to emo Spurs fans that want to trade Manu even after realizing that our team sucks without him.
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Re: Now you know how valuable Manu is
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Originally Posted by
TDMVPDPOY
lol @ argy fans who think ginoboli is top 3 sg in the league.....
with the emergence of b roy, manu is probably 4 now.
in the clutch, theres very few people better than manu.
so yeah good job you dumbshit.
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Re: Now you know how valuable Manu is
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Originally Posted by
TheProfessor
It's a difficult position to be in as an organization. When Manu is healthy, he's easily the best sixth man in the league and a top 5 SG. But if we can't get that production in the postseason, he's absolutely useless to this team.
If Manu is going through injury issues next year, do you look to move him at the trade deadline? Or, assuming you don't move him but don't have post-season success, do you re-sign him or renounce his rights and seek a healthier option? There are difficult questions the Spurs' FO has to answer here, and it has little to do with his past performance.
This is the very first playoffs he misses. I think the sensible thing is to take a look at him next season and see how he's doing. It's obvious you simply can't replace the guy for what he brings to the team every night. I think this series is so clear it's not even funny. He's a one man second unit.
So I'm sure the FO will see how he recovers, and if he's healthy I don't see why they won't offer an extension. He's still young, and I think he still has a lot to play.
As a side note,I won't entertain the whole 'he costs us X championships' (we're not in a position to contend if he's not there to begin with) or all the bitching about 'Playing in the olympics screwed the Spurs' (he got injured playing his heart out for the Spurs, both times). Injuries happen. Tim also missed an entire playoffs and it ended the same way. It was an even worse injury (meniscus), and I didn't see everyone wanting to trade the franchise player back then...
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:rolleyes The only fans happier than Mav Fan tonight are Manu Fan.
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Re: Now you know how valuable Manu is
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Originally Posted by
TDMVPDPOY
lol @ argy fans who think ginoboli is top 3 sg in the league.....
On a per 48 minute basis, I believe only Kobe and Wade are better than him. And there are certain stats, like clutch shots where he is numero uno.
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timvp
:rolleyes The only fans happier than Mav Fan tonight are Manu Fan.
I don't think anybody is happy tonight... honestly.
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timvp
:rolleyes The only fans happier than Mav Fan tonight are Manu Fan.
it was really sad to see TP and TD go to war without manu.
absolutely depressing to see manu on the bench so believe me timvp, i'm not happy at all.
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Question: Who would all this "trade Manu" suporterts blame if we do trade him and he ends up playing the entire next season at the level he's accustomed to play?
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Re: Now you know how valuable Manu is
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timvp
:rolleyes The only fans happier than Mav Fan tonight are Manu Fan.
and this moron owns this site?????? you sure u r not ducks??????
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Re: Now you know how valuable Manu is
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timvp
:rolleyes The only fans happier than Mav Fan tonight are Manu Fan.
timvp beign a douche, so what's new?
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Don't think the guy's value was ever in question. The problem is he's too invaluable at this point in time, which is actually a bad thing. He'll be back though, and the bench should be that much stronger to handle his absences or any regression.
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Re: Now you know how valuable Manu is
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ElNono
all the bitching about 'Playing in the olympics screwed the Spurs' (he got injured playing his heart out for the Spurs, both times). Injuries happen. Tim also missed an entire playoffs and it ended the same way. It was an even worse injury (meniscus), and I didn't see everyone wanting to trade the franchise player back then...
Cmon now man, he has done alot for the ARGY team for the last few years now, world championships, olympics....his won all that, so what is there to fkn prove? over commit urself to some bs in the summer so you head into the upcomming nba season fatigue or risks missing it cause of sustain injury you got in the summer?
you are comparing a young tim duncan franchise player 99/00 season where he got a knee injury to ginoboli? the same duncan that came back and won b2b mvps, championships?
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I don't think they'll consider trading Manu this offseason, unless there's medical reasons why he won't be able to compete.
I do like the idea of seeing lots of Tony/Manu/GHill on the court together next year causing havoc for other teams.
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Reading comprehension, guys.
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Re: Now you know how valuable Manu is
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Kori Ellis
I don't think they'll consider trading Manu this offseason, unless there's medical reasons why he won't be able to compete.
I do like the idea of seeing lots of Tony/Manu/GHill on the court together next year causing havoc for other teams.
If Manu rests this off-season, I'm content with having him healthy and heading into a contract year. It will be an interesting crossroads for this team.
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Re: Now you know how valuable Manu is
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Originally Posted by
Kori Ellis
I don't think they'll consider trading Manu this offseason, unless there's medical reasons why he won't be able to compete.
I do like the idea of seeing lots of Tony/Manu/GHill on the court together next year causing havoc for other teams.
Sure would make a badass backcourt....if you'll excuse my language. Strengthen the bench and you can still have TP or Manu play minutes with the second unit IMO.
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First of all, people that blame our '06 loss solely on Manu are tards. Sure, he had the foul on Dirk that ended up letting them tie the ballgame. It was a play on the ball, ONE play. One play doesn't determine an entire series, it was not just Manu that dug us in the 3-1 hole in the first place, we should not have even been in the position to need a game 7 at home to take the series. I know that it's perfectly natural to try to place blame on somebody so that it's easier to swallow, I mean I even do it by calling Bonner a worthless piece of crap. But blaming Manu for getting injured is going overboard, IMO. It's easy to look BACK and see that he should not have played, but it was his decision, and Manu has earned enough in my book in taking less money, in happily going to the bench, in his play in the Finals '05, that I'm not just gonna throw him under the bus for a series he didn't even play in.
Be angry at Manu if you want, but saying "Fuck Manu" is just stupid after everything he's done for the Spurs and San Antonio.
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we wouldn't have won the championship with manu either,
and Grant Hill would have been valuable to his various teams as well, but he wasn't, he was injured, it's part of the deal, some players stay healthy, some don't, manu won't stay healthy