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Re: Free Agent: Rasheed Wallace
Only if the Spurs cannot get their hands on Gortat.
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Re: Free Agent: Rasheed Wallace
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Originally Posted by
SenorSpur
Only if the Spurs cannot get their hands on Gortat.
:tu
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Re: Free Agent: Rasheed Wallace
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Originally Posted by
LakerHater
He looks really fat in that photo.. Maybe black is not slimming. :lol
If he signs with the Spurs, I hope we get the skinny, motivated Sheed.
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Re: Free Agent: Rasheed Wallace
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Spur-Addict
Bottom line is that he's still very effective and there aren't many available bigs who can give what he can. Additionally, the only help he had on that front line was Dice. Tim and Sheed compliment each other offensively, plus he plays really good defense.
That's what I'm bringing into question - this is not 2004 Sheed, or even 2007 Sheed, this is 35yo Sheed who has slowed considerably. Guy used to have the quickness to rotate to corner shooters, but not any more. He shot 42% from the field and 35% from 3 last year. His blocks and steals were down, even thought he played 2 more mpg than 2007. Sheed is over the hill.
If he wants to be paid a pittance to come and play 20mpg here, fine, but if you are going to count on him to contribute significantly you'll be sorely disappointed.
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Re: Free Agent: Rasheed Wallace
Move on, why the hype about him, he is nothing.
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I dont want this guy on the Spurs... let him rot in DFW
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Originally Posted by
ruffnreadyozstyle
that's what i'm bringing into question - this is not 2004 sheed, or even 2007 sheed, this is 35yo sheed who has slowed considerably. Guy used to have the quickness to rotate to corner shooters, but not any more. He shot 42% from the field and 35% from 3 last year. His blocks and steals were down, even thought he played 2 more mpg than 2007. Sheed is over the hill.
If he wants to be paid a pittance to come and play 20mpg here, fine, but if you are going to count on him to contribute significantly you'll be sorely disappointed.
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Re: Free Agent: Rasheed Wallace
Old players have no place in nowdays NBA. Look at Howard, Anthony,....
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If you are a fan of the Spurs, you want Rasheed Wallace. His defense is why you get him. He will take so much pressure off Tim Duncan. The only question is if he can stay healthy. I am shocked he stayed as healthy as he has the past 5 years. The 3 point shooting isn't a bad thing in moderation, and with Timmay commanding a double, any time Sheed spreads the floor, the opposing defense will be completely stretched and frustrated.
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jacobdrj
If you are a fan of the Spurs, you want Rasheed Wallace. His defense is why you get him. He will take so much pressure off Tim Duncan. The only question is if he can stay healthy. I am shocked he stayed as healthy as he has the past 5 years. The 3 point shooting isn't a bad thing in moderation, and with Timmay commanding a double, any time Sheed spreads the floor, the opposing defense will be completely stretched and frustrated.
That's all true, but you can't afford to pay him the MLE.
I'd rather the Spurs go after Gortat.
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Originally Posted by
SenorSpur
I'd rather the Spurs go after Gortat.
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Re: Free Agent: Rasheed Wallace
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Originally Posted by
jacobdrj
If you are a fan of the Spurs, you want Rasheed Wallace. His defense is why you get him. He will take so much pressure off Tim Duncan. The only question is if he can stay healthy. I am shocked he stayed as healthy as he has the past 5 years. The 3 point shooting isn't a bad thing in moderation, and with Timmay commanding a double, any time Sheed spreads the floor, the opposing defense will be completely stretched and frustrated.
:toast
could not say it any better i hope somehow we can get rid of bonner though but a 1 year contract wouldn't hurt for the LLE
with a healthy spurs team they might be scary and add a good young small foward woww will this team be a true contender next year
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Re: Free Agent: Rasheed Wallace
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Originally Posted by
RuffnReadyOzStyle
That's what I'm bringing into question - this is not 2004 Sheed, or even 2007 Sheed, this is 35yo Sheed who has slowed considerably. Guy used to have the quickness to rotate to corner shooters, but not any more. He shot 42% from the field and 35% from 3 last year. His blocks and steals were down, even thought he played 2 more mpg than 2007. Sheed is over the hill.
If he wants to be paid a pittance to come and play 20mpg here, fine, but if you are going to count on him to contribute significantly you'll be sorely disappointed.
Losing an all star point guard would logically effect his numbers. Billups stretched the floor better, debatably slashed a bit better or equal to, and he has ran the Pistons far better than Stuckey has to date. This has to be taken into account. And by no means am I saying that Sheed is vintage Sheed, that is absurd. What i'm saying is, who are you going to find out there that can do what he can? Nobody.
With the three offensive options on the court, he will get better looks from the three point line. Or, anywhere else to be honest.
Defensively, i'm not worried about a Wallace/Duncan frontcourt. We won't be playing Golden State every night.
If you think he can't give 25 minutes, and on some nights thirty, that's just your opinion. An opinion I disagree with, but yours nonetheless.
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In terms of a big man that compliments Duncan, Sheed is the best option out there this summer. I worry about his drop-off in production. True, going from Billups to Iverson doesn't exactly do wonders for team offense. But at 35 with 1000+ games on his legs, defensively will he be 2 million dollars better than Bonner?
It will take all of the MLE to sign Sheed. His signing also makes Bonner expendable. So the signing has some pretty high risks:
1. With his age and health can he do much better than Bonner, especially at 2 million+ more per season?
2. If they sign Sheed, can the Spurs salary dump Bonner? WIth limited salary space, the Spurs have more pressing needs than a redundancy at this skill set.
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Pass. Sheed is in decline. He's an upgrade over our bigs (cept Timmy of course) but when are we going to commit to bringing in young players?
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Re: Free Agent: Rasheed Wallace
Bring him in for an Horry-type role at an Horry-type salary. Vet minimum, maybe a little more.
MLE? No way at this point in his arc.
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for the LLE i would love it, but we have to be realistic, there may be some teams that wouldnt mind over paying the guy. im sure cuban would give him the MLE no problem.
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Re: Free Agent: Rasheed Wallace
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SenorSpur
That's all true, but you can't afford to pay him the MLE.
I'd rather the Spurs go after Gortat.
Good, don't bitch when Gortat clogs up the offense and can't even shoot past a 3 foot hook shot.
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Re: Free Agent: Rasheed Wallace
Rasheed Wallace is about as good as the Spurs are likely to get.
Going after young players to develop is a waste of time at this point. The time for that was two years ago, and the Spurs failed. Now, if they go young, by the time those players are ready, Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili are done. If the Spurs elect to go young, then the era of winning titles under Tim Duncan is effectively over, and they might as well just trade Tim Duncan. Heck, just blow up the whole team and start over.
So the Spurs should just focus on getting players that can contribute meaningfully now.
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Extra Stout
Rasheed Wallace is about as good as the Spurs are likely to get.
Going after young players to develop is a waste of time at this point. The time for that was two years ago, and the Spurs failed. Now, if they go young, by the time those players are ready, Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili are done. If the Spurs elect to go young, then the era of winning titles under Tim Duncan is effectively over, and they might as well just trade Tim Duncan. Heck, just blow up the whole team and start over.
So the Spurs should just focus on getting players that can contribute meaningfully now.
Depends on how you define "young". Al Jefferson is young, but he would help now. Dwight Howard is young and his team was in the finals. I am assuming you meant the draft or something similar.
You can still go "young" and help win now.
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Is Stout having a bad offseason?
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If we get Wallace, then we NEED to have another young role player big off the bench with Ian..having Kurt backing up Wallace and Duncan is horrible for us, we would get torched by young bigs..
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Re: Free Agent: Rasheed Wallace
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Originally Posted by
Extra Stout
Rasheed Wallace is about as good as the Spurs are likely to get.
Going after young players to develop is a waste of time at this point. The time for that was two years ago, and the Spurs failed. Now, if they go young, by the time those players are ready, Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili are done. If the Spurs elect to go young, then the era of winning titles under Tim Duncan is effectively over, and they might as well just trade Tim Duncan. Heck, just blow up the whole team and start over.
So the Spurs should just focus on getting players that can contribute meaningfully now.
Change your dealer please...
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Re: Free Agent: Rasheed Wallace
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Originally Posted by
Extra Stout
Rasheed Wallace is about as good as the Spurs are likely to get.
Going after young players to develop is a waste of time at this point. The time for that was two years ago, and the Spurs failed. Now, if they go young, by the time those players are ready, Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili are done. If the Spurs elect to go young, then the era of winning titles under Tim Duncan is effectively over, and they might as well just trade Tim Duncan. Heck, just blow up the whole team and start over.
So the Spurs should just focus on getting players that can contribute meaningfully now.
You are completely ignoring the fact that the NBA has changed and is now a young athlete's league, not to mention the fact that offensive players have been given all the advantages. If this were 2005 we could go with a 35yo Sheed and have a hope, today not a chance. If he comes here cheap (LLE, which he won't) I'd be fine with it, anything more would be throwing money and a roster spot down the toilet.
Also, if you keep delaying the inevitable (i.e. that this team is too old and not athletic enough) you are setting us up for a major crash in a year or two. The smart thing to do is to gradually get younger over a 3 year period, introducing 2-3 youngsters a year, and hope that one a year makes a leap - that way you have a shot at the trophy each year if everything clicks, but at the same time you get younger and prepare for the post-Duncan era. Most FO/coach staffs could not pull it off, but ours is good enough to get it right with a little good luck.
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Re: Free Agent: Rasheed Wallace
i'm not sure of what it worthes but a french site has just talked about the spurs talking to Rasheed Wallace to make him come.
http://www.football365.fr/basket-han...approche.shtml
another one:
http://www.basketusa.com/news/rumeur...sheed-wallace/
10 M 2 years deal.