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Well, Lee would help continue the movement to get Tim consitent help on the glass and he's a great P&R asset. His offense is still improving but he's beginning to expand his game a bit in that regard. Pretty sure Pop could light a fire up under him to put the same energy he expends on hustle plays back into his defense at the rim.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKJACK21
Yeah, we definitely do not need a guy who scored 16pts and grabbed 12 boards a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKJACK21
it doesn't really matter Spurs are not going to get Lee.
How exactly would the Spurs expect to land Lee? It'd have to be some kind of 3 way deal with the Knicks getting decent value back and the Spurs offering a 3rd team a salary dump.
We dont have $10 mil a year for Lee. Not gonna happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by NewJerSpur
they won't get him. true. but i can dream...Quote:
Originally Posted by kbrury
Pachulia is not much of a shotblocker. His playoff numbers in 12 games was 3 whole blocks, averaging less than 0.5 blocks per 40 minutes adjusted.
He can rebound, but he doesn't block shots and he can be a little turnover prone. I'm a little wary of a player when in the playoffs he had more turnovers than assists+blocks+steals.
I agree, if you're asking what I'd do, but R.C. gave me the impression Splitter in indeed a part of their plans moving forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
I guess it's not impossible for them to have both in the fold, it's just not something I find all that likely.
I've actually commented on here that Pachulia might actually be the better player. I think Splitter might be a little more physically and athletically gifted, but I've also noticed some bitchass-tendencies that I haven't seen in Pachulia.
I generally side with player who get the most out of themselves over guys whose potential leaves you wanting more, so Pachulia actually falls more to my line of thinking.
Lee's just too big of a liability defensively and his offensive repetoire leaves plenty to be desired.Quote:
Originally Posted by NewJerSpur
Playing in a system like D'antoni's is something that benefits a player like Lee who excells in the open court and in the half-court without a dominant big. He's somewhat similar to Gortat offensively, but lacks the size and defensive ability to even really be much of an asset for the money.(Not a big fan of Gortat on the Spurs, either.)
If Lee's an energy guy coming off the bench who's getting paid as such, he's a nice player. But he's not someone that a team like the Spurs should invest MLE-type money in, imo.
Not if he can't take any pressure off of Tim defensively and/or spread the floor.Quote:
Originally Posted by peskypesky
I don't hate Lee as a player, actually kind of like him, I just don't like him as a fit (financially or basketball-wise) for the Spurs.
I think Lee could benefit from playing with a coach like Pop regarding his defense, especially if he takes that same effort he puts into rebounding and hustle plays. His athleticism makes up for his lack of size and he has more range on his jumper and is quicker than Gortat though neither is really dominant offensively. I'd still feel good about putting either next to Tim, but that's me.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKJACK21
Would have to look into how the trade could work numbers wise but it might take more than the team is willing to pay.
He could no doubt benefit from time with Pop, but he's undersized and light in the ass, and if he remedies the latter, his game would probably suffer.Quote:
Originally Posted by NewJerSpur
He did make some strides on his jumper, but it's a long way from consistent.
I would say he's got more of a face-up game than Gortat, but that's really not all that much of an endorsement.
For what the Spurs need now, he just doesn't fit the bill.
Tim was adamant to Pop and R.C. to get him some girth in the low-block, and I think it'd be wise to listen to the big fella'.
DeJuan is a step in the right direction, but they need a starter, ala Wallace, that can prevent Tim from having to carry the low-post load and defend the oppositions center night-in and night-out.
I'll agree that dude is more of a face-up player at this point but his offensive game has room for growth (the double-doubles were very encouraging) and he's not a pushover in the post. Again, I feel the guy could come to the team and contribute right away if he were acquired.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKJACK21
He's seven feet tall, he moves well, he's young, he's tough, and when he got starters minutes he averaged nearly a double double.Quote:
Originally Posted by NewJerSpur
The Spurs have something other than money to offer him, as well: a starting job. That can appeal to a guy who lost his job to someone else.
I have to ask again: With Duncan, Parker, Ginobili and Jefferson in the starting lineup, why all the hand-wringing about the offensive skills of a potential center? I'd just as soon whoever comes in only touch the ball when he's grabbing a rebound and passing it to a teammate.
He can still improve in shot blocking and he's a decent rebounder. Zaza should be signed he's tall,young, & durable. He add toughness something that the spurs need.
Zaza is nice. Lee is not a product of D'Antoni's system, he and nate were two of the only good players under Thomas. Though Lee won't become a spur, sorry, I like his game, but we can't swing it. I still think the spurs have a shot at splitter though. I understand his contract situation but Tau Ceramica was smart to get him in that 2 year deal when they did. Other than buy outs European teams have no way to get anything in return for talent, plus it gives Splitter insurance if he sucked last year. If spurs are serious they will at least get a number on the buy out.
I'd be Happy with Zaza... but Dice > Zaza
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Originally Posted by spurs da champs
Why does McDyess keep getting mentioned? Face it, Timmy will not move to center and have Mcdyess at the 4. The team already has the rights to Blair and Gist in which they can do Dice's job possibly better. We need a center. A center who is at least 6'11 or taller. Either get Sheed or Zaza already. Enough of this Dice shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by urunobili
Thing is that Ian, Blair and Gist are Rookies... and even if they turn out to be great... Pop needs a veteran Mentoring them and that could actually step up and be the man if needed or if they turn out busts...Quote:
Originally Posted by 200 miles
do you see Bonner mentoring them? TD doesn't like the educator role from there that he doesnt do basketball camps etc...
A proven veteran or two would get that done and i think Dice is the perfect fit because of all the aforementioned...
So you dont think Zaza, well maybe not Zaza, but Sheed can be that mentor?Quote:
Originally Posted by urunobili
Hey, Sheed isn't a bad teammate and isn't as combustible as he used to be when he first entered the league. Sure, he may go off every now and then, but I don't think he would have much reason to be pissed about anything if he were a Spur, because we would be too busy winning. I think that extra peace of mind would allow anyone to serve as a mentor.:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by 200 miles
Well we all know that Sheed is our first prospect but if we don't get him we also know that we need a freakin center. So as long as the guy is healthy and likes to compete and plays hard that is all I am asking.
Either way next year the following players will be gone...Finley, Bonner, and any of our second rounders we sign that didn't play well or fit into our system...So that should give us enough money to get Splitter.
If sheed is brought in... that'd probably be part of his job description yes...Quote:
Originally Posted by 200 miles
So when did Wallace get this Girth.....or are you saying that being in San Antono and eating some mexican food he will be adding some girth?Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKJACK21
i'm not a big fan of Z. Pachulia, from my personal perspective i would rather keep D. Gooden than go for Z. Pachulia.
Z. Pachulia is a big guy with some skills, but the fact is that he also doesn't have a good basketball IQ to speak of, he occasionally would take bad shots, and on defense he seems to be out of position at time and is very foul prone. The flaws in his game is very similar to D. Goodens, but the fact is that D. Gooden is still the more talented player.