Olbermann to Hannity: put up or shut up

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Olbermann pressing on Hannity's waterboard offer

By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer David Bauder, Ap Television Writer – Wed Apr 29, 6:36 am ET
NEW YORK – The debate over torture is getting personal for two of cable TV's prime-time hosts.

After Fox News Channel's Sean Hannity made a seemingly impromptu offer last week to undergo waterboarding as a benefit for charity, MSNBC's Keith Olbermann leapt at it. He offered $1,000 to the families of U.S. troops for every second Hannity withstood the technique.

Olbermann repeated the offer on Monday's show and said in an interview Tuesday that he's heard no response. He said he'll continue to pursue it.

"I don't think he has the courage to even respond to this — let alone do it," Olbermann said.

Fox News Channel representatives did not respond to requests for comment.

The two men are on opposite poles of a debate that has preoccupied the worlds of talk TV and radio. Hannity says waterboarding is a fair and necessary interrogation technique for suspected terrorists; Olbermann calls it torture, says it's ineffective and should not be done by Americans.

Charles Grodin was challenging Hannity on the issue on Fox last week, and asked whether he would consent to be waterboarded.

"Sure," Hannity said. "I'll do it for charity ... I'll do it for the troops' families."

It wasn't exactly clear how serious the conversation was, since Grodin joked, "Are you busy on Sunday?" and Hannity laughed.

"I'll let you do it," Hannity said.

"I wouldn't do it," Grodin said. "I'll hand you a towel when you come out of the shower."

Olbermann's offer was quick. Besides the $1,000 per second, Olbermann said he'd double it if Hannity acknowledges he feared for his life and admits that waterboarding is torture.

"The idea of putting somebody in a position they have volunteered for, for charity, to respond to their own unsupportable claims, is in many ways priceless," Olbermann said.

Olbermann, who hasn't missed any chance to criticize his ideological enemies at Fox, concedes TV competition plays a part in his offer. But he said it was sincere, because he believes Hannity has had a damaging role in the debate.

"If you expose people to reality, even with someone who is denying reality, that can have a powerful and important impact," he said.

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My God...

This could be a huge event for charity. I know allot of people would pay to see that done to Hannity!

well, anything to help msnbc piss poor ratings.

I think $1000 a second is a weak-sauce offer.

Add a zero and now youre talking.

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Originally Posted by DarkReign

I think $1000 a second is a weak-sauce offer.

Add a zero and now youre talking.

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Hell, I'll throw in $10/second. I'm sure you can easily get $1/second from a million or two people.

This could be huge.

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

My God...

This could be a huge event for charity. I know allot of people would pay to see that done to Hannity!

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If only he had the sack to actually back up that mouth of his. Don't expect to see it anytime soon.

I'll throw in some money on it too.

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Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

If only he had the sack to actually back up that mouth of his. Don't expect to see it anytime soon.

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It's win-win for liberals.

Hannity doesn't put up: He's a coward douchebag.

Hannity tries it, lasts less than 10 seconds: He's a hypocritical douchebag.

Hannity tries it, and lasts for a couple of minutes: He's a wet douchbag.

:lmao

"one of the most reactionary commentators in the world"

:lmao

olbmermann's mouth is the single most global warming object in the world.

Yay. One blowhard to another. This is important.

I would pay to watch this.

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Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas

"one of the most reactionary commentators in the world"

:lmao

olbmermann's mouth is the single most global warming object in the world.

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grammar... bad... :smchode:

I think republicans would love to see this to. I want to see a reporter (any reporter) go through it so we can hear how bad it is.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

Yay. One blowhard to another. This is entertainment gold.

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Fixed.

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Originally Posted by Destro

I think republicans would love to see this to. I want to see a reporter (any reporter) go through it so we can hear how bad it is.

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There was one guy.

"Believe me, its torture."

i first skimmed over the article and thought, "wakeboarding aint bad... that shit is fun!" and then i reread over the article.

fuck hannity and all his supporters as well as the rest of the douchebags who think they know what the fuck they are talking about.

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Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas

"one of the most reactionary commentators in the world"

:lmao

olbmermann's mouth is the single most global warming object in the world.

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I agree and I think he's a piece of shit, but he hit a home run on this one...

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

I agree and I think he's a piece of shit, but he hit a home run on this one...

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it'll be interesting to see how this turns out. i'm sure people here have the inside scoop.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

One blowhard to another.

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what, you and whottt IM'ing?

Christopher Hitchins underwent waterboarding and only lasted a few seconds. Maybe 2 pours of water.

He said it isn't that it's the illusion that you're being drowned... it's that you're actually being drowned.

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Originally Posted by RandomGuy

There was one guy.

"Believe me, its torture."

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there ya go.

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Originally Posted by jman3000

Christopher Hitchins underwent waterboarding and only lasted a few seconds. Maybe 2 pours of water.

He said it isn't that it's the illusion that you're being drowned... it's that you're actually being drowned.

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An he knew this how?

Did he actually drown, and come back to life?

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

An he knew this how?

Did he actually drown, and come back to life?

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Wow, you're right. In that case, it's not bad at all.

People die from waterboarding. It's not like this is a new revelation.

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Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

Wow, you're right. In that case, it's not bad at all.

People die from waterboarding. It's not like this is a new revelation.

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We actually hung Japanese officers for waterboarding our service members in WW2.

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Originally Posted by RandomGuy

We actually hung Japanese officers for waterboarding our service members in WW2.

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There are different levels of waterboarding. My understanding is that we never used but the lesser versions of it.

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

There are different levels of waterboarding. My understanding is that we never used but the lesser versions of it.

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Read the fucking article.

READ IT!

There are no "levels" of waterboarding.

Bound hands and body, mask over head, towels over face, invert body with heart elevated above head, pour water slowly over towels.

ie If I dont stop pouring water, this guy dies. Period.

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Originally Posted by DarkReign

Read the fucking article.

READ IT!

There are no "levels" of waterboarding.

Bound hands and body, mask over head, towels over face, invert body with heart elevated above head, pour water slowly over towels.

ie If I dont stop pouring water, this guy dies. Period.

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There are different intensities/durations of doing it. Maybe I should have stated that differently.

Wow...

Don't see signs of you getting angry very often...

How do you get a different intensity of waterboarding?

Do you have an online guide ot waterboarding?

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

There are different intensities/durations of doing it. Maybe I should have stated that differently.

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Not intensities, but durations I will agree with.

But duration in this case can mean the difference between life and death.

Thus, waterboarding = torture.

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Wow...

Don't see signs of you getting angry very often...

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Because honestly, you should read the article. The guy didnt last 2 seconds being waterboarded under a controlled situation. Not. Two. Seconds.

Q: Is there any bigger douche in the world than Keith Olbermann?

I think the duration argument goes out the window when you waterboard someone 83 or 183 times.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

Q: Is there any bigger douche in the world than Keith Olbermann?

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A: Yes. Sean Hannity.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

Q: Is there any bigger douche in the world than Keith Olbermann?

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Ann Coulter.

I like to see the two of them fight. That would be pay-per-view worthy.

no offense, but this is the last guy i'd listen to whether or not waterboarding is torture
http://www.vanityfair.com/images/cul...tchens0710.jpg
:lmao

i wonder what his stance on running is......

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

I like to see the two of them fight. That would be pay-per-view worthy.

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I'd like to see Hannity waterboarded like he said he would.

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Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas

no offense, but this is the last guy i'd listen to whether or not waterboarding is torture

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I'll take Hannity's word for it when he does it.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

I'd like to see Hannity waterboarded like he said he would.

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I find it odd that you would have Hannity waterboarded, but not a known terrorist.

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Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas

no offense, but this is the last guy i'd listen to whether or not waterboarding is torture
http://www.vanityfair.com/images/cul...tchens0710.jpg
:lmao

i wonder what his stance on running is......

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what does appearance have to do with anything?

CH is a pretty brilliant guy.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

I find it odd that you would have Hannity waterboarded, but not a known terrorist.

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I don't find it odd that you are too stupid to tell the difference -- Hannity said he would.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

Q: Is there any bigger douche in the world than Keith Olbermann?

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I'd like to amend my answer.

A: Yes. DarrinS.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

I don't find it odd that you are too stupid to tell the difference -- Hannity said he would.

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You notice how I can talk to you without calling you names?

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

You notice how I can talk to you without calling you names?

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Can you do it without being an idiot?

Pointless. Hannity does this he knows its about winning money and it won't last long. "ok Hannity,here we go,hold ur breath,its for charity" Hannity goes over the top and so does Keith.

Again the US government needs to do whatever they can to get these terrorist to talk. Cut their sacs off and feed them to pigs until they talk.

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Originally Posted by jman3000

what does appearance have to do with anything?

CH is a pretty brilliant guy.

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what does brilliance have to do with this? i doubt a trained terrorist is at the same level of stamina, endurance, and fortitude of this "brilliant" man. this isn't war lite. war is, and will always be, hell.

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Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas

what does brilliance have to do with this? i doubt a trained terrorist is at the same level of stamina, endurance, and fortitude of this "brilliant" man. this isn't war lite. war is, and will always be, hell.

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"trained terrorist" What exactly is involved in their "training"? Is it the guys on the monkey bars from all the old videos?

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

I find it odd that you would have Hannity waterboarded, but not a known terrorist.

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I wasn't aware that the suspected terrorists had already been put on trial.

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Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas

what does brilliance have to do with this? i doubt a trained terrorist is at the same level of stamina, endurance, and fortitude of this "brilliant" man. this isn't war lite. war is, and will always be, hell.

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It's funny, because waterboarding was used by the Chinese to extract false confessions from prisoners -- not actionable intel. That's what our soldiers have been trained to resist.

Was that our goal here? Just to get them to say anything?

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"trained terrorist" What exactly is involved in their "training"? Is it the guys on the monkey bars from all the old videos?

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silly me. i forgot they just issue the koran and tell them to shoot whitey.

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Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas

what does brilliance have to do with this? i doubt a trained terrorist is at the same level of stamina, endurance, and fortitude of this "brilliant" man. this isn't war lite. war is, and will always be, hell.

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That has nothing to do with Hannity claiming waterboarding is not torture. Stop moving the goalposts.

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Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas

silly me. i forgot they just issue the koran and tell them to shoot whitey.

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all our troops are white?

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Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas

silly me. i forgot they just issue the koran and tell them to shoot whitey.

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Well, you said you doubt a "trained terrorist" is the same as the brilliant man.

Why do you doubt this? Do you know something about the monkey bar training that I don't?

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Originally Posted by clambake

all our troops are white?

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Pretty much............except for the black ones..............and Asian ones.............and hispanic ones..............

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It's funny, because waterboarding was used by the Chinese to extract false confessions from prisoners -- not actionable intel. That's what our soldiers have been trained to resist.

Was that our goal here? Just to get them to say anything?

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Since you're so smart, tell us how you extract information from someone whose weapon of choice is suicide.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

Since you're so smart, tell us how you extract information from someone whose weapon of choice is suicide.

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Make fun of their mom...........that always pisses people off.

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

That has nothing to do with Hannity claiming waterboarding is not torture. Stop moving the goalposts.

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since when does a thread stay on task? keep up, bum.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

Since you're so smart, tell us how you extract information from someone whose weapon of choice is suicide.

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The FBI got a great deal of intel out of Abu Zubaydah before he was waterboarded 86 times by the CIA.

The FBI's knowledge of and experience with interrogation is much greater than that of the CIA. So is that of the military. The CIA chose this route from a position of near-complete ignorance, and the legal eagles that wrote the excuses for them didn't even bother to look up existing US case law regarding waterboarding.

It was a stupid thing to do and the way they went about it was even more stupid.

I'm still wondering how the monkey bars get these guys so mentally tough.............fuck, we couldn't even drown information out of them.


I'm thinking the monkey bar grips are incredibly large and therefore it's tough to really grip them............that will get you focused.

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Make fun of their mom...........that always pisses people off.

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Maybe they should be forced to watch Olbermann or Rachel Maddow.

:vomit:

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I'm still wondering how the monkey bars get these guys so mentally tough.............fuck, we couldn't even drown information out of them.


I'm thinking the monkey bar grips are incredibly large and therefore it's tough to really grip them............that will get you focused.

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they're good on monkey bars because the sand is so hot!

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

How do you get a different intensity of waterboarding?

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Here's a description of Japanese waterboarding during WII off of wiki. Sounds a little more intense than what we have done.

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This included waterboarding, by the method of binding or holding down the victim on his back, placing a cloth over his mouth and nose, and pouring water onto the cloth. In this version, interrogation continued during the torture, with the interrogators beating the victim if he did not reply and the victim swallowing water if he opened his mouth to answer or breathe. When the victim could ingest no more water, the interrogators would beat or jump on his distended stomach.

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Sean would break if he was hit with a water balloon.

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Here's a description of Japanese waterboarding during WII off of wiki. Sounds a little more intense than what we have done.

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then why doesn't he do it?

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Originally Posted by SnakeBoy

Here's a description of Japanese waterboarding during WII off of wiki. Sounds a little more intense than what we have done.

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What exactly did we do? Do we have detailed records of each session?

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Originally Posted by clambake

then why doesn't he do it?

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I'm not much of a fan of Hannity so I can only guess. Possibly because he knows this is just a cheap attempt by Oberman to get his ratings out of the tank. Hannity doesn't have that problem.

Hannity is a piece of shit if he does not go through with this.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

What exactly did we do? Do we have detailed records of each session?

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I haven't seen any but from what was described in detail in the released memos our version was clearly less "intense".

FWIW, I'm against the practice. My opinion is based 100% on the negative PR we recieve from the practice and that I think there are other ways to get people to spill their guts. Not because I feel bad for those whom it was done to.

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Originally Posted by SnakeBoy

I haven't seen any but from what was described in detail in the released memos our version was clearly less "intense".

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Can you direct me to that passage in the memo? I don't feel like reading them all right now.

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FWIW, I'm against the practice. My opinion is based 100% on the negative PR we recieve from the practice and that I think there are other ways to get people to spill their guts. Not because I feel bad for those whom it was done to.

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Same here. I also don't buy its alleged effectiveness.

waterboarding is nothing..

You KNOW they aren't going to drown you, so all you have to do is let go and conquer the fear of drowning and control your stress level

I can do that easy. I hope Hannity actually goes through with this, but I know he wont. hes a pussy

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Originally Posted by MiamiHeat

waterboarding is nothing..

You KNOW they aren't going to drown you, so all you have to do is let go and conquer the fear of drowning and control your stress level

I can do that easy. I hope Hannity actually goes through with this, but I know he wont. hes a pussy

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How many times have you been waterboarded?

I don't see how your question has any relevance.

I know what you are going to say, but I will quickly shoot it down, so don't even try it.

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Originally Posted by MiamiHeat

I don't see how your question has any relevance.

I know what you are going to say, but I will quickly shoot it down, so don't even try it.

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It's a simple question:

How many times have you been waterboarded?

I gave you a simple answer. Your question and my answer has no relevance to what I said.

No need to repeat yourself.

So it's safe to assume you have been waterboarded a grand total of zero times.

:tu

And it's still safe to assume your question has absolutely no relevance to what I said.

:deadhorse:

the number of times you have been waterboarded is quite relevant to establishing your authority on the subject.

Since the number of times you have been waterboarded is zero, the amount of authority you have on the subject of being waterboarded is also zero.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

I think the duration argument goes out the window when you waterboard someone 83 or 183 times.

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Wont argue with that. Good point.

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Originally Posted by MiamiHeat

waterboarding is nothing..

You KNOW they aren't going to drown you, so all you have to do is let go and conquer the fear of drowning and control your stress level

I can do that easy. I hope Hannity actually goes through with this, but I know he wont. hes a pussy

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HA! You fucking wish...if what you claim is even remotely true, there is a long line of SEALs waiting for your specific training.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Can you direct me to that passage in the memo? I don't feel like reading them all right now.

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This is the one I was thinking of. I haven't read all of them.

http://luxmedia.vo.llnwd.net/o10/cli...2002_bybee.pdf

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Finally, you '.:;,ould like to use a tecbnique called the "water-board." In this procedure, the
individual is bound securely loan inclined bench, Which is approXimately four feet by seven feet.
The individual's feet are generally elevated. A cloth is placed over the forehead and eyes. Water
is then applied to the cloth in a wmrolJed manner. As this is done, the cloth is lo\vered until it
covers both the nose and 111outh. Once the cloth is saturated and completely covers tbe mouth
and nose, air now is slightly restric.ted for 20 to 40 seconds due to the presence ofthe cloth. This
causes an increase in carbon dioxide level in the individual's blood. This increase in the carbon
dioxide level stil1lulates increased effort to breathe. This eiTon plus the cloth produces tbe
perception of"suffocation and incipient panic," i.e.,the perception of drowning. tbeindividual
does not breathe any wa.ter into his lungs. During those 20 to 40 seconds, water is continuously
applied from a beight of twelve to t\':venty~four inches. After thlsperiod, the cloth is lifted, and
the individual is allowed to breathe unimpeded for three or four n!l1 breaths. The sensation of
drowning is immediately relieved by the removal of the cloth. The procedure may then be
repeated. The water is usually applied from a canteen cup or small watering can. ,vith a SlJout.
You have orally informed us that till.s procedure triggers an automatic physiological sensation of
drov,'ning that the individual cannot control even though he may be aware that he is in fact not
dro\'il1ing. You bave also orally infomlcd. us that it is likely that this procedure would not last
more than 20 minutes in anyone application.
We also understaIld that a medical expert with SEFJ:: experience will be present
throughout this phase and uiat the procedures w~ll be stopped if deemed rnedically necessary to
prevent severe mental or physical ha..rm to Zubaydah. A5 menti.oue.d abo\'e, Zuhayd2h suffered
an injury during his capture. You have infonned us that steps will be taken to ensure that this
injury is not in any way exacerbated by the use of these metllOds and that adequate 111cdical
attention will be given to ensure that it will heal properly..

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waterboarding is nothing..

You KNOW they aren't going to drown you, so all you have to do is let go and conquer the fear of drowning and control your stress level

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http://i38.tinypic.com/if1zsj.jpg

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

the number of times you have been waterboarded is quite relevant to establishing your authority on the subject.

Since the number of times you have been waterboarded is zero, the amount of authority you have on the subject of being waterboarded is also zero.

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Predictable. I told you not to try it....

Let's look at how wrong you are...


The situation : Hannity might be up for waterboarding for charity.

What I said :

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Originally Posted by MiamiHeat

waterboarding is nothing..

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This means I believe, in this situation, the waterboarding is nothing. If I were hannity, this would be nothing to me. Why do I say this, let's continue...

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Originally Posted by MiamiHeat

You KNOW they aren't going to drown you,

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This is obvious. In fact, Hannity will most likely have a doctor or paramedic team nearby in case anything goes wrong. He is going to be fine. So this is accurate, no need for experience.
Strike 1, Chumpy.

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Originally Posted by MiamiHeat

so all you have to do is let go and conquer the fear of drowning and control your stress level

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Waterboarding is :
that consists of immobilizing the victim on his or her back with the head inclined downwards, and then pouring water over the face and into the breathing passages. By forced suffocation and inhalation of water, the subject experiences drowning and is caused to believe they are about to die

"In this procedure, the individual is bound securely to an inclined bench, which is approximately four feet by seven feet. The individual's feet are generally elevated. A cloth is placed over the forehead and eyes. Water is then applied to the cloth in a controlled manner. As this is done, the cloth is lowered until it covers both the nose and mouth. Once the cloth is saturated and completely covers the mouth and nose, air flow is slightly restricted for 20 to 40 seconds due to the presence of the cloth… During those 20 to 40 seconds, water is continuously applied from a height of twelve to twenty-four inches. After this period, the cloth is lifted, and the individual is allowed to breathe unimpeded for three or four full breaths… The procedure may then be repeated."
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So. After 20-40 seconds, they lift the cloth and you can breathe for a few breaths again. Then they do it all over again.

So, you are led to believe you are doing to drown and die. We already said Hannity is doing this for charity so he is not going to die, and we already said most likely have paramedics nearby during this in case anything happens.

So, logically, if you conquer the fear of drowning and your stress level, which is the only threat left to the victim, then you can conquer charity waterboarding. No experience necessary once again. Strike 2, Chumpy.

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Originally Posted by MiamiHeat

I can do that easy. I hope Hannity actually goes through with this, but I know he wont. hes a pussy

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I can do that. I do not fear death in any capacity. At all. Zero fear. Situations in my life have proven to myself and to my family that I am calm under pressure. You'll have to take my word for it.

I said Hannity is a pussy, which is just my opinion.


So now I have proven that your question was irrelevant to what I said.

CLASS DISMISSED.:toast

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

What exactly did we do? Do we have detailed records of each session?

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You mean you don't know? You seemed to have a lot of knowledge about FBI interrogations.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

You mean you don't know? You seemed to have a lot of knowledge about FBI interrogations.

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The FBI did not waterboard anyone.

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Originally Posted by MiamiHeat

You KNOW they aren't going to drown you, so all you have to do is let go and conquer the fear of drowning and control your stress level

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It's a physiological response, it doesn't matter if you know they won't drown you. Try this, a sip of water but instead of swallowing it try inhaling it without coughing. If you can do that maybe I'll believe you.

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Originally Posted by MiamiHeat

blah blah

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Again I will ask you: How many times you have been waterboarded?

Just give us all a number proving your experience with being waterboarded.

If you refuse to answer again, you will be forever known as a pussy who can't answer a simple question.

If you don't fear death, and you know they have paramedics nearby for this charity waterboarding, then what's to fear?

Even IF you drown, which you won't because waterboarding allows you to breath, they can revive you.

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blah blah blah

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Let it be known - ChumpDumper got anal raped in this thread and refuses to acknowledge my post.

Then tries to call someone else a pussy.

HE is now a pussy.

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Originally Posted by MiamiHeat

Let it be known - ChumpDumper got anal raped in this thread and refuses to acknowledge my post.

Then tries to call someone else a pussy.

HE is now a pussy.

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How many times have you been waterboarded?

How many of our Special Forces have died in SERE training due to waterboarding?

Thousands have been subjected to it and, to my knowledge, no one has succumbed to the treatment.

It's a low risk, high reward form of interrogation. Not torture.

If it were torture, we would also be drilling holes in our soldier's eyeballs and yanking out fingernails to see how long they could endure.

The types of waterboarding that kills was used in previous wars (and probably is employed by some of our enemies today) and involved forcing water into the lungs and stomach and then violently forcing it back out by punching or jumping on the victim.

That's not how we do it.

acknowledge my post because you got anal raped.

Don't run now, chumpy. I proved your question has -0- relevance to what I said.

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How many of our Special Forces have died in SERE training due to waterboarding?

Thousands have been subjected to it and, to my knowledge, no one has succumbed to the treatment.

It's a low risk, high reward form of interrogation. Not torture.

If it were torture, we would also be drilling holes in our soldier's eyeballs and yanking out fingernails to see how long they could endure.

The types of waterboarding that kills was used in previous wars (and probably is employed by some of our enemies today) and involved forcing water into the lungs and stomach and then violently forcing it back out by punching or jumping on the victim.

That's not how we do it.

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Waterboarding loses it's effect if the victims know we aren't going to actually hurt them. Only the mentally weak fall to it

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

It's a low risk, high reward form of interrogation. Not torture.

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Again, the waterboard resistance training came into being because the Chinese were extracting false confessions out of prisoners by waterboarding.

Was that the goal of the CIA?

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acknowledge my post because you got anal raped.

Don't run now, chumpy. I proved your question has -0- relevance to what I said.

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How many times have you been waterboarded?

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Waterboarding loses it's effect if the victims know we aren't going to actually hurt them. Only the mentally weak fall to it

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How many times have you been waterboarded?

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How many of our Special Forces have died in SERE training due to waterboarding?

Thousands have been subjected to it and, to my knowledge, no one has succumbed to the treatment.

It's a low risk, high reward form of interrogation. Not torture.

If it were torture, we would also be drilling holes in our soldier's eyeballs and yanking out fingernails to see how long they could endure.

The types of waterboarding that kills was used in previous wars (and probably is employed by some of our enemies today) and involved forcing water into the lungs and stomach and then violently forcing it back out by punching or jumping on the victim.

That's not how we do it.

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They're never going to get it. The librtard pansies only know what their masters tell them to believe. They don't understand that you can also change such things by the type of cloth uses and how it's positioned. That along with duration, forced inhalation as you explain, and several other factors, there are several levels and durations of the technique.

Nope... They're libtards...

One size fits all!

When the CIA used the water-boarding technique on al-Qaida operative and supposed "9/11 mastermind" Khalid Sheik Mohammed, he reportedly lasted more than two minutes before confessing to everything of which he was accused. Anonymous CIA sources report that Mohammed's interrogators were impressed.

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Hannity won't go through it THAT long, and he has the security of knowing this is charity and he has paramedics to save him.

As I said, it's easy.

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Again, the waterboard resistance training came into being because the Chinese were extracting false confessions out of prisoners by waterboarding.

Was that the goal of the CIA?

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Nope, the goal of the CIA was to extract actionable intelligence which, it is reported, was done in two of the three cases of waterboarding.

Kudoes to them.

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As I said, it's easy.

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How many times have you been waterboarded?

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They're never going to get it. The librtard pansies only know what their masters tell them to believe. They don't understand that you can also change such things by the type of cloth uses and how it's positioned. That along with duration, forced inhalation as you explain, and several other factors, there are several levels and durations of the technique.

Nope... They're libtards...

One size fits all!

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In 1947, a Japanese soldier who used water boarding against a U.S. citizen during World War II was sentenced to 15 years in U.S. prison for committing a war crime.

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Nope, the goal of the CIA was to extract actionable intelligence which, it is reported, was done in two of the three cases of waterboarding.

Kudoes to them.

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186 times in a month?

How effective can it possibly be for accurate, actionable intel if it has to be done that often?

What is the record for each session?

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How many times have you been waterboarded?

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Read my post above.

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How many times have you been waterboarded?

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Read my post above.

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How many times have you been waterboarded?

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Read my post above.



Yup. Ignoring my post. You lose, Chumpy. You don't even have the balls to say you are wrong. That's pathetic.