Olbermann to Hannity: put up or shut up

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Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas

silly me. i forgot they just issue the koran and tell them to shoot whitey.

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all our troops are white?

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Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas

silly me. i forgot they just issue the koran and tell them to shoot whitey.

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Well, you said you doubt a "trained terrorist" is the same as the brilliant man.

Why do you doubt this? Do you know something about the monkey bar training that I don't?

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Originally Posted by clambake

all our troops are white?

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Pretty much............except for the black ones..............and Asian ones.............and hispanic ones..............

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

It's funny, because waterboarding was used by the Chinese to extract false confessions from prisoners -- not actionable intel. That's what our soldiers have been trained to resist.

Was that our goal here? Just to get them to say anything?

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Since you're so smart, tell us how you extract information from someone whose weapon of choice is suicide.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

Since you're so smart, tell us how you extract information from someone whose weapon of choice is suicide.

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Make fun of their mom...........that always pisses people off.

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

That has nothing to do with Hannity claiming waterboarding is not torture. Stop moving the goalposts.

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since when does a thread stay on task? keep up, bum.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

Since you're so smart, tell us how you extract information from someone whose weapon of choice is suicide.

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The FBI got a great deal of intel out of Abu Zubaydah before he was waterboarded 86 times by the CIA.

The FBI's knowledge of and experience with interrogation is much greater than that of the CIA. So is that of the military. The CIA chose this route from a position of near-complete ignorance, and the legal eagles that wrote the excuses for them didn't even bother to look up existing US case law regarding waterboarding.

It was a stupid thing to do and the way they went about it was even more stupid.

I'm still wondering how the monkey bars get these guys so mentally tough.............fuck, we couldn't even drown information out of them.


I'm thinking the monkey bar grips are incredibly large and therefore it's tough to really grip them............that will get you focused.

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Originally Posted by johnsmith

Make fun of their mom...........that always pisses people off.

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Maybe they should be forced to watch Olbermann or Rachel Maddow.

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Originally Posted by johnsmith

I'm still wondering how the monkey bars get these guys so mentally tough.............fuck, we couldn't even drown information out of them.


I'm thinking the monkey bar grips are incredibly large and therefore it's tough to really grip them............that will get you focused.

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they're good on monkey bars because the sand is so hot!

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

How do you get a different intensity of waterboarding?

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Here's a description of Japanese waterboarding during WII off of wiki. Sounds a little more intense than what we have done.

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This included waterboarding, by the method of binding or holding down the victim on his back, placing a cloth over his mouth and nose, and pouring water onto the cloth. In this version, interrogation continued during the torture, with the interrogators beating the victim if he did not reply and the victim swallowing water if he opened his mouth to answer or breathe. When the victim could ingest no more water, the interrogators would beat or jump on his distended stomach.

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Sean would break if he was hit with a water balloon.

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Originally Posted by SnakeBoy

Here's a description of Japanese waterboarding during WII off of wiki. Sounds a little more intense than what we have done.

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then why doesn't he do it?

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Originally Posted by SnakeBoy

Here's a description of Japanese waterboarding during WII off of wiki. Sounds a little more intense than what we have done.

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What exactly did we do? Do we have detailed records of each session?

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Originally Posted by clambake

then why doesn't he do it?

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I'm not much of a fan of Hannity so I can only guess. Possibly because he knows this is just a cheap attempt by Oberman to get his ratings out of the tank. Hannity doesn't have that problem.

Hannity is a piece of shit if he does not go through with this.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

What exactly did we do? Do we have detailed records of each session?

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I haven't seen any but from what was described in detail in the released memos our version was clearly less "intense".

FWIW, I'm against the practice. My opinion is based 100% on the negative PR we recieve from the practice and that I think there are other ways to get people to spill their guts. Not because I feel bad for those whom it was done to.

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Originally Posted by SnakeBoy

I haven't seen any but from what was described in detail in the released memos our version was clearly less "intense".

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Can you direct me to that passage in the memo? I don't feel like reading them all right now.

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FWIW, I'm against the practice. My opinion is based 100% on the negative PR we recieve from the practice and that I think there are other ways to get people to spill their guts. Not because I feel bad for those whom it was done to.

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Same here. I also don't buy its alleged effectiveness.

waterboarding is nothing..

You KNOW they aren't going to drown you, so all you have to do is let go and conquer the fear of drowning and control your stress level

I can do that easy. I hope Hannity actually goes through with this, but I know he wont. hes a pussy

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Originally Posted by MiamiHeat

waterboarding is nothing..

You KNOW they aren't going to drown you, so all you have to do is let go and conquer the fear of drowning and control your stress level

I can do that easy. I hope Hannity actually goes through with this, but I know he wont. hes a pussy

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How many times have you been waterboarded?

I don't see how your question has any relevance.

I know what you are going to say, but I will quickly shoot it down, so don't even try it.

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Originally Posted by MiamiHeat

I don't see how your question has any relevance.

I know what you are going to say, but I will quickly shoot it down, so don't even try it.

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It's a simple question:

How many times have you been waterboarded?

I gave you a simple answer. Your question and my answer has no relevance to what I said.

No need to repeat yourself.

So it's safe to assume you have been waterboarded a grand total of zero times.

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And it's still safe to assume your question has absolutely no relevance to what I said.

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