Printable View
the number of times you have been waterboarded is quite relevant to establishing your authority on the subject.
Since the number of times you have been waterboarded is zero, the amount of authority you have on the subject of being waterboarded is also zero.
Wont argue with that. Good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
HA! You fucking wish...if what you claim is even remotely true, there is a long line of SEALs waiting for your specific training.Quote:
Originally Posted by MiamiHeat
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
This is the one I was thinking of. I haven't read all of them.
http://luxmedia.vo.llnwd.net/o10/cli...2002_bybee.pdf
Quote:
Finally, you '.:;,ould like to use a tecbnique called the "water-board." In this procedure, the
individual is bound securely loan inclined bench, Which is approXimately four feet by seven feet.
The individual's feet are generally elevated. A cloth is placed over the forehead and eyes. Water
is then applied to the cloth in a wmrolJed manner. As this is done, the cloth is lo\vered until it
covers both the nose and 111outh. Once the cloth is saturated and completely covers tbe mouth
and nose, air now is slightly restric.ted for 20 to 40 seconds due to the presence ofthe cloth. This
causes an increase in carbon dioxide level in the individual's blood. This increase in the carbon
dioxide level stil1lulates increased effort to breathe. This eiTon plus the cloth produces tbe
perception of"suffocation and incipient panic," i.e.,the perception of drowning. tbeindividual
does not breathe any wa.ter into his lungs. During those 20 to 40 seconds, water is continuously
applied from a beight of twelve to t\':venty~four inches. After thlsperiod, the cloth is lifted, and
the individual is allowed to breathe unimpeded for three or four n!l1 breaths. The sensation of
drowning is immediately relieved by the removal of the cloth. The procedure may then be
repeated. The water is usually applied from a canteen cup or small watering can. ,vith a SlJout.
You have orally informed us that till.s procedure triggers an automatic physiological sensation of
drov,'ning that the individual cannot control even though he may be aware that he is in fact not
dro\'il1ing. You bave also orally infomlcd. us that it is likely that this procedure would not last
more than 20 minutes in anyone application.
We also understaIld that a medical expert with SEFJ:: experience will be present
throughout this phase and uiat the procedures w~ll be stopped if deemed rnedically necessary to
prevent severe mental or physical ha..rm to Zubaydah. A5 menti.oue.d abo\'e, Zuhayd2h suffered
an injury during his capture. You have infonned us that steps will be taken to ensure that this
injury is not in any way exacerbated by the use of these metllOds and that adequate 111cdical
attention will be given to ensure that it will heal properly..
http://i38.tinypic.com/if1zsj.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by MiamiHeat
Predictable. I told you not to try it....Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Let's look at how wrong you are...
The situation : Hannity might be up for waterboarding for charity.
What I said :
This means I believe, in this situation, the waterboarding is nothing. If I were hannity, this would be nothing to me. Why do I say this, let's continue...Quote:
Originally Posted by MiamiHeat
This is obvious. In fact, Hannity will most likely have a doctor or paramedic team nearby in case anything goes wrong. He is going to be fine. So this is accurate, no need for experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by MiamiHeat
Strike 1, Chumpy.
Waterboarding is :Quote:
Originally Posted by MiamiHeat
that consists of immobilizing the victim on his or her back with the head inclined downwards, and then pouring water over the face and into the breathing passages. By forced suffocation and inhalation of water, the subject experiences drowning and is caused to believe they are about to die
"In this procedure, the individual is bound securely to an inclined bench, which is approximately four feet by seven feet. The individual's feet are generally elevated. A cloth is placed over the forehead and eyes. Water is then applied to the cloth in a controlled manner. As this is done, the cloth is lowered until it covers both the nose and mouth. Once the cloth is saturated and completely covers the mouth and nose, air flow is slightly restricted for 20 to 40 seconds due to the presence of the cloth… During those 20 to 40 seconds, water is continuously applied from a height of twelve to twenty-four inches. After this period, the cloth is lifted, and the individual is allowed to breathe unimpeded for three or four full breaths… The procedure may then be repeated."
-----------------
So. After 20-40 seconds, they lift the cloth and you can breathe for a few breaths again. Then they do it all over again.
So, you are led to believe you are doing to drown and die. We already said Hannity is doing this for charity so he is not going to die, and we already said most likely have paramedics nearby during this in case anything happens.
So, logically, if you conquer the fear of drowning and your stress level, which is the only threat left to the victim, then you can conquer charity waterboarding. No experience necessary once again. Strike 2, Chumpy.
I can do that. I do not fear death in any capacity. At all. Zero fear. Situations in my life have proven to myself and to my family that I am calm under pressure. You'll have to take my word for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MiamiHeat
I said Hannity is a pussy, which is just my opinion.
So now I have proven that your question was irrelevant to what I said.
CLASS DISMISSED.:toast
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
You mean you don't know? You seemed to have a lot of knowledge about FBI interrogations.
The FBI did not waterboard anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
It's a physiological response, it doesn't matter if you know they won't drown you. Try this, a sip of water but instead of swallowing it try inhaling it without coughing. If you can do that maybe I'll believe you.Quote:
Originally Posted by MiamiHeat
Again I will ask you: How many times you have been waterboarded?Quote:
Originally Posted by MiamiHeat
Just give us all a number proving your experience with being waterboarded.
If you refuse to answer again, you will be forever known as a pussy who can't answer a simple question.
If you don't fear death, and you know they have paramedics nearby for this charity waterboarding, then what's to fear?
Even IF you drown, which you won't because waterboarding allows you to breath, they can revive you.
Let it be known - ChumpDumper got anal raped in this thread and refuses to acknowledge my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Then tries to call someone else a pussy.
HE is now a pussy.
How many times have you been waterboarded?Quote:
Originally Posted by MiamiHeat
How many of our Special Forces have died in SERE training due to waterboarding?
Thousands have been subjected to it and, to my knowledge, no one has succumbed to the treatment.
It's a low risk, high reward form of interrogation. Not torture.
If it were torture, we would also be drilling holes in our soldier's eyeballs and yanking out fingernails to see how long they could endure.
The types of waterboarding that kills was used in previous wars (and probably is employed by some of our enemies today) and involved forcing water into the lungs and stomach and then violently forcing it back out by punching or jumping on the victim.
That's not how we do it.
acknowledge my post because you got anal raped.
Don't run now, chumpy. I proved your question has -0- relevance to what I said.
Waterboarding loses it's effect if the victims know we aren't going to actually hurt them. Only the mentally weak fall to itQuote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Again, the waterboard resistance training came into being because the Chinese were extracting false confessions out of prisoners by waterboarding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Was that the goal of the CIA?
How many times have you been waterboarded?Quote:
Originally Posted by MiamiHeat
How many times have you been waterboarded?Quote:
Originally Posted by MiamiHeat
They're never going to get it. The librtard pansies only know what their masters tell them to believe. They don't understand that you can also change such things by the type of cloth uses and how it's positioned. That along with duration, forced inhalation as you explain, and several other factors, there are several levels and durations of the technique.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Nope... They're libtards...
One size fits all!
When the CIA used the water-boarding technique on al-Qaida operative and supposed "9/11 mastermind" Khalid Sheik Mohammed, he reportedly lasted more than two minutes before confessing to everything of which he was accused. Anonymous CIA sources report that Mohammed's interrogators were impressed.
---------------------
Hannity won't go through it THAT long, and he has the security of knowing this is charity and he has paramedics to save him.
As I said, it's easy.
Nope, the goal of the CIA was to extract actionable intelligence which, it is reported, was done in two of the three cases of waterboarding.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Kudoes to them.
How many times have you been waterboarded?Quote:
Originally Posted by MiamiHeat
In 1947, a Japanese soldier who used water boarding against a U.S. citizen during World War II was sentenced to 15 years in U.S. prison for committing a war crime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
186 times in a month?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
How effective can it possibly be for accurate, actionable intel if it has to be done that often?
What is the record for each session?
Read my post above.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Read my post above.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Read my post above.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Yup. Ignoring my post. You lose, Chumpy. You don't even have the balls to say you are wrong. That's pathetic.