Peggy Noonan: 'Shrink to Win' Isn't Much of a Strategy

'Shrink to Win' Isn't Much of a Strategy





President Obama's news conference Wednesday night was a bit of a masterpiece. The Obama Thinking Look was back, as he parsed questions, took notes, and offered up rehearsed answers in a way that made them seem not written by the Committee on Soundbites but natural to him, as if he were formulating answers in the here and now. On torture, he cited Churchill. He spoke of pro-lifers not with any of the appellations the left prefers but as pro-lifers. He dispatched the culturally radical Freedom of Choice Act as "not a top priority"; he said he doesn't want to run auto companies and banks and would prefer, in fact, a smaller portfolio. His presentation was low-key, authoritative, and had the look and feel of moderation. When you can give this impression while some of your decisions—for instance, on the legitimate cost and reach of government—are not, actually, moderate, you are demonstrating a singular political talent.
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He is subtle and likes to kill softly. As such, he is something new on the political scene, which means he will require something new from his opponents, including, first, patience.


I am wondering once again if Republicans in Washington fully understand what they are up against.


They have had a hard week. Someday years hence, when books are written about the Republican comeback, they may well begin with this low moment, and the bolting of Arlen Specter to the Democrats. It is fine to dismiss Mr. Specter as an opportunist, but opportunists tell you something: which side is winning. That's the side they want to be on.


And so the latest round of What Should the Republican Party Do?
If it is alive, and it is, it will evolve, as living things do. Beyond that, a thought.


A great party needs give. It must be expansive and summoning. It needs to say, "Join me."


A party that is huge, vital and national, that is truly the expression of the views of a huge and varied nation, will, by definition, contain within it those who are more to the right, and more to the left, and more to the middle. This creates a constant tension, a constant fight, but no matter. As Ronald Reagan said in China, in front of students at Fudan University, we are "a great disputatious nation."


Great parties are coalitions, and coalitions contain disparate and sometimes warring pieces. FDR's coalition contained Southern Democrats from Birmingham and socialists from the Bronx. They didn't agree on much, but they agreed on some essentials, such as "the New Deal is good" and "government should be harnessed to help the little guy." It was imperfect and in time evolved but its success demonstrated that a great party needs give.



The argument over the Republican party now always devolves into the question: Should it be less conservative? I say devolves because it is Democrats and the left who frame the question that way, and they do so because whatever the answer, yes or no, it will damage Republicans.


Another way to put the question is: Can the party, having accurately ascertained its position, and recognizing shifting terrain, institute a renewed and highly practical tolerance for the many flavors of Republican? Can it live happily and productively with all its natural if sometimes warring constituent groups?


It must.


All the metaphors here are tired, so let's stick with the big tent. A big tent is held up by tent poles. No poles, no tent. No poles, all you have is a big collapsed canvas.


The poles that keep up the tent are the party's essential beliefs.



Republicans over the next few years should define what each of their tent poles stands for—a strong defense being an obvious pole, a less demanding and intrusive government being another, a natural affection and respect for tradition and for life being a third—and how many poles there are.


But also, the people inside can't always be kicking people out of the tent. A great party cannot live by constantly subtracting, by removing or shunning those who are not faithful to every aspect of its beliefs, or who don't accept every pole, or who are just barely fitting under the tent. Room should be made for them. Especially in those cases when Republican incumbents and candidates are attempting to succeed in increasingly liberal states, a certain practical sympathy is in order.


In the party now there is too much ferocity, and bloody-mindedness. The other day Sen. Jim DeMint said he'd rather have 30 good and reliable conservative senators than 60 unreliable Republicans. Really? Good luck stopping an agenda you call socialist with 30 hardy votes. "Shrink to win": I've never heard of that as a political slogan.


Is it fully mature, and truly protective toward America, to be so politically exclusionary?


It is true that Republican unity would benefit now, or soon, from a great man or woman who can by the force of his presence, by the provable support of the people of his home state, by his ability to persuade, by his ability to seem somehow inevitable (as FDR and Churchill, Thatcher and Reagan all did), emerge and win the support of a plurality of the American people.


That is a wonderful and exciting thing when it happens.
But such a person may or may not emerge. People who resolve history just by showing up are few and far between.


We say of a great one, "That's the sort of person who comes along once a generation," but in fact when you look back on history you realize it's a lucky nation that yields one up even that often. A lot of history is just making do, muddling through. A lot of history goes unmarked by conspicuous greatness.


Right now, Republicans have to muddle through and do their best. They are up against a talented and charismatic leader whom people want to succeed. His party is with him. Certainly it is hungry, and grateful to him for getting them back in the game.


Republicans are also up against themselves. On Capitol Hill they are up against the Bush era, when through fear of the White House or mindless opportunism they supported things they now decry. It will take them a while to seem credible again. The smarter of them know this. They're waiting for time to pass and a new cliché about them to take hold. Old cliché: "They're not a credible alternative." Future cliché they hope for: "They've learned a lot in the wilderness."


Republicans are trying to find themselves during a time of dramatic, rolling change, demographic change, younger voters who seem embarrassed to be associated with them, an aging and contracting base and, perhaps most ominously, what appears to be a new national openness to a redefinition of the relationship between the government and the governed.


The ground is shifting. It's hard to get your footing in an earthquake. As Republicans on the Hill try, they must also try to steady their party. It needs a greater sense of realism about its predicament. It needs less enforcement and more encouragement. It needs to inspire the young and the politically unformed not with bloodlust but with ideas.


A great party allows everyone in, and allows prospective members to self-define. If they say they're Republicans, they should be welcomed and helped to find a place where they fit. A great party has a lot of such places. A great party is expansive. A great party has give.

Noonan is a neo con mouthpiece trying to maintain the status quo.

How about addressing her argument, micca? Pointing at her political predilections doesn't refute it.

An ideologically pure conservatism that has too little power to challenge the socialistic policies of the Dems does no good for the country.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

An ideologically pure conservatism that has too little power to challenge the socialistic policies of the Dems does no good for the country.

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when's the last time they tried to do good for the country?

smooth transition doesn't count.

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Originally Posted by clambake

when's the last time they tried to do good for the country?

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I'm not defending the GOP. I'm just trying to get micca to state his case instead of relying on worthless ad hominems.

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smooth transition doesn't count

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Oh? Why not?

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

An ideologically pure conservatism that has too little power to challenge the socialistic policies of the Dems does no good for the country.

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And yet you try and peddle that an ideolgically pure leftist does, Obama long before he was president was rated the single most left wing senator in America,surpassing even Kennedy.I'm sorry people need to notice how Democrats are so anxious to offer advice on the future of the Republican party.At the same time they are trying by hook or by crook to make sure they put in place a political machine that will ensure control for a long time to come, through the granting of amnesty, to the push for the fairness doctirne, from the expansion of economic reliance on the state. to the threat of political opponents being intimidated with the label of domestic threats, and extremists.

When the people who voted for a man that is flirting with facisim pretend they are intrested in promoting discourse I say it's only common sense "To beware greeks bearing gifts."

More directly to your question, clambake, I don't really believe that a conception of the common good survives at the level of national politics. Electoral expedience trumps everything.

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Originally Posted by hope4dopes

And yet you try and peddle that an ideolgically pure leftist does, Obama long before he was president was rated the single most left wing senator in America,surpassing even Kennedy.I'm sorry people need to notice how Democrats are so anxious to offer advice on the future of the Republican party.

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What makes you think I'm a Dem? My posts from WSJ, Forbes, FT, Reason, Pat Buchanan, Takimag, even Chronicles?

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When the people who voted for a man that is flirting with facisim pretend they are intrested in promoting discourse I say it's only common sense "To beware greeks bearing gifts."I didn't vote for Obama

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I voted for Ron Paul, not that it's any of your business.

micca's all out of arguments. Fear and smear is his whole repertoire.

DeMint's reply to Noonan

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

What makes you think I'm a Dem? My posts from WSJ, Forbes, FT, Reason, Pat Buchanan, Takimag, even Chronicles?

I voted for Ron Paul, not that it's any of your business.

micca's all out of arguments. Fear and smear is his whole repertoire.

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:lol Ron Paul

You were going to vote for Hilary, then switched to McCain. Some people might laugh at that.

:lol I never figured jack sommerset for a PUMA

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

You were going to vote for Hilary, then switched to McCain.

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Thats partly right my man, my brother, my friend. But I did not switch. Hillary was not on the ticket my brother,my firend, my man. What should have been the obvious choice in McCain over Obama, America fucked it up. Now we have to sit and wait while he screws up this country even more than it already is.

God helped us if there were more loons like urself that would have gotten that crazy old man Ron Paul in office.

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Originally Posted by PixelPusher

:lol I never figured jack sommerset for a PUMA

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:lol We don't let Grandma out to often.

Listen. All the republicans have to do is get this bullshit neocon system out of the party and get to small government. Give a little on the social issues. Just get the country fiscally strong ffs. Gay marriage, abortion, none of that means shit when the backbone of the country is going bankrupt.

They don't need to bend to keep playing with the dems. Fuck that. I hope the republicans continue to get raped on the political scene until they start respecting guys like Ron Paul. Just sit back, let the dems trash this country, and be there ready when the people turn back to you.

Simple.

Having a single person who could articulately explain to the common idiot americant the far-left's agenda and how they softly work to gain control would speed up the process.

Shrinking the neo-cons out of the Republican party actually is the way to win.

The Republicans have been losing because they have completely 100% lost credibility on their primary issue.

I hope that you dopes continue to have faith in jack.

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Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

I hope that you dopes continue to have faith in jack.

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You sure do talk about me alot. I know why.

Who is the dope? You gave guys advice not to respond to me yet you do. You are a sad little pathetic man. That makes you the dope. Let it sink in. Lets see if you can take ur own advice.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

What makes you think I'm a Dem? My posts from WSJ, Forbes, FT, Reason, Pat Buchanan, Takimag, even Chronicles?

I voted for Ron Paul, not that it's any of your business.

micca's all out of arguments. Fear and smear is his whole repertoire.

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Have to end with attacks doncha precious it never ends with you you always insult everyone who disagrees with you O.K. I'll play....... your whole repertoire is the simpering posturing fop trotting out elitist pundindts monoluges... marching to the head of the crowd and calling yourself liberated and cutting edge.You support whatever consent that is being manufactured by the elite and call it thinking.

I think the Republican party should go to the rush/hannity way. Insult anyone who doesn't agree with you 100%. Kick anyone out who does not subscribe to the 'conservative' way 100%.

micca's so fucking dumb.

Noonan: The GOP should be more inclusive.

micca: Fuck Peggy Noonan, who needs her? Oh... and Obama's a fascist.

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I hope that you dopes continue to have faith in jack.

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lmfao

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

I think the Republican party should go to the rush/hannity way. Insult anyone who doesn't agree with you 100%. Kick anyone out who does not subscribe to the 'conservative' way 100%.

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Do you really think democrats don't have a hannity/rush insulting those who donot agree with them. CNN? Olberman?Hell there are a bunch of people on this site like chumpy who bash anyone who disagrees with them. Then you have dumb shits like CryHavoc that just insult you and give nothing to the conversation. It goes both ways. I really wish guys like urself would stop crying.

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micca's so fucking dumb.

Noonan: The GOP should be more inclusive.

micca: Fuck Peggy Noonan, who needs her? Oh... and Obama's a fascist.


lmfao

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Oh no not this dolt...let's see bali what will it be this time "cunt" "fag" or have you learned some new words. Yes I'm really sure your interested in a healthy oppisition in American politics. Now terrets syndrome has a spokesman in the DNC.

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Do you really think democrats don't have a hannity/rush insulting those who donot agree with them. CNN? Olberman?Hell there are a bunch of people on this site like chumpy who bash anyone who disagrees with them. Then you have dumb shits like CryHavoc that just insult you and give nothing to the conversation. It goes both ways. I really wish guys like urself would stop crying.

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hopes4dopes will find all of the above very confusing - he's convinced liberals and Democrats are all in lockstep unison.

Of course, Democrats don't have a parade of politicians on their hands and knees begging Olbermann for forgiveness for some offhand remark. All hail Lord Rushbo.

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Originally Posted by PixelPusher

hopes4dopes will find all of the above very confusing - he's convinced liberals and Democrats are all in lockstep unison.

Of course, Democrats don't have a parade of politicians on their hands and knees begging Olbermann for forgiveness for some offhand remark. All hail Lord Rushbo.

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I really wouldn't give Rush any credit and politicians asking someone for forgiveness is not new, Obama made a world wide tour apologizing to dictators for the way the USA have acted.

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Originally Posted by hope4dopes

Oh no not this dolt...let's see bali what will it be this time "cunt" "fag" or have you learned some new words. Yes I'm really sure your interested in a healthy oppisition in American politics. Now terrets syndrome has a spokesman in the DNC.

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That's what you got? A word I perhaps deservedly called crookshanks two months ago? Give me a break you fucking dumbass. The stupidity of your schizoid and incoherent inability to stay on any one topic for more than a post at a time is only outdone by the stupidity and uninformed paranoia that said isolated posts are almost entirely comprised of. You are useless dolt; a braying jackass with no substance, reason or coherence. I hunger for the days when cobra, yoni and whottt would post regularly and in unison, which says almost less than nothing for your dumb ass. Fuck you, micca.

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Originally Posted by hope4dopes

At the same time they are trying by hook or by crook to make sure they put in place a political machine that will ensure control for a long time to come

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It's like you've never heard the words "permanent majority strategy."

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Originally Posted by PixelPusher

hopes4dopes will find all of the above very confusing - he's convinced liberals and Democrats are all in lockstep unison.

Of course, Democrats don't have a parade of politicians on their hands and knees begging Olbermann for forgiveness for some offhand remark. All hail Lord Rushbo.

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Yeah there's alot intersting debate going on in congress some democrats think they don't need to read the bills Obama and peolsi give them while a maverick group thinks a glance at the title page is owed to their constituents.

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That's what you got? A word I perhaps deservedly called crookshanks two months ago? Give me a break you fucking dumbass. The stupidity of your schizoid and incoherent inability to stay on any one topic for more than a post at a time is only outdone by the stupidity and uninformed paranoia that said isolated posts are almost entirely comprised of. You are useless dolt; a braying jackass with no substance, reason or coherence. I hunger for the days when cobra, yoni and whottt would post regularly and in unison, which says almost less than nothing for your dumb ass. Fuck you, micca.

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There is medication now for this you know.

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I really wouldn't give Rush any credit and politicians asking someone for forgiveness is not new, Obama made a world wide tour apologizing to dictators for the way the USA have acted.

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This is what happens when you get all your news for Sean Hannity. Here's the part he edited out.

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Originally Posted by Barack Obama's speech to NATO in France

"But in Europe, there is an anti-Americanism that is at once casual, but can also be insidious. Instead of recognising the good that America so often does in the world, there have been times where Europeans choose to blame America for much of what is bad.On both sides of the Atlantic, these attitudes have become all too common. They are not wise. They do not represent the truth. They threaten to widen the divide across the Atlantic and leave us both more isolated."

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

You sure do talk about me alot. I know why.

Who is the dope? You gave guys advice not to respond to me yet you do. You are a sad little pathetic man. That makes you the dope. Let it sink in. Lets see if you can take ur own advice.

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That went so far over your head that a telescope and a free ride to space wouldn't even help you understand.

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Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

That went so far over your head that a telescope and a free ride to space wouldn't even help you understand.

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You don't have many freinds do you. Thats not a question for you to answer. Perhaps you make no cents. Thats it. Oh and you are not witty so stop trying. Also have some humility, take ur advice and stop responding to me. I see a stalker emerging.

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

You don't have many freinds do you. Thats not a question for you to answer. Perhaps you make no cents. Thats it. Oh and you are not witty so stop trying. Also have some humility, take ur advice and stop responding to me. I see a stalker emerging.

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Wanna go camping?

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Originally Posted by PixelPusher

This is what happens when you get all your news for Sean Hannity. Here's the part he edited out.

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Dude, Hannity goes way to far. I am no Hannity fan. Thanks for taking the time to let me no you think I am someones puppet and have no free thoughts of my own.

"permanent majority strategy"

no, the phrase was "permanent REPUG majority".

How short and cherry-picking are the wrongies' memories.

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Originally Posted by hope4dopes

Yeah there's alot intersting debate going on in congress some democrats think they don't need to read the bills Obama and peolsi give them while a maverick group thinks a glance at the title page is owed to their constituents.

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Mavericks!
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pwnd

You know, this thread got completely sidetracked, but in the main, Noonan's comments are sane and reasonable. I never really liked Reagan, but Noonan makes sense. (and before somebody attacks me...my problem with Reagan was the same as GHW Bush's...voodoo economics. Bush 41 has been proven right about that).