Think about how the part starting 2:30 in can be applied to other things like rich people and corporations:
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Think about how the part starting 2:30 in can be applied to other things like rich people and corporations:
That's movies you dolt.
Come on, you're smarter than that. I doubt I give you too much credit. We have a similar situation with people not standing up for others against this government.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
When the government runs out of money from other sources, they will come for us! If we stand up for those currently being attacked, why should they stand up for us?
Our federal government has way too much control, and liberals want to grow it more... What the hell is wrong with you supposed freedom lovers?
Class warfare, tax and spend... Fuck them!
I have no good feelings of anyone who practices class warfare.
It doesn't make the idea that I referred to invalid.Quote:
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What's up with you today. Did Chump crack you password?
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There's also some good things in the series "The West Wing." Love the series. I don't agree with how everything is portrayed, but it's TV, and very well done. I have all seven seasons on DVD.
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
:lol If I ever posted either of these, Ig and hopes4dopes would go apeshit.Quote:
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Why? There are real valid points in them.Quote:
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Ah, what the hell...it's late, I'm getting goofy tired...I'll throw some chum into the sea...Quote:
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First they tortured in ticking time bomb cases but I didn't mind because it was a clear and imminent danger.
Second they tortured "slow-fuse" high value detainees and I didn't mind, because you never know what might happen.
Third they tortured Iraqi and Afghan prisoners who weren't high value, but who might have had useful information, and I didn't mind, because they were acting in good faith.
Fourth they tortured prisoners to establish a link between Al Qaeda and Saddam, and I didn't mind, because surely there must have been such a connection.
Finally, they came to torture me, and nobody cared, because if I was being tortured, I obviously deserved to be tortured, and, as Peggy Noonan says, some things are just mysterious and it's best to just keep on walking.
Soi-disant conservatives grew it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Like Bush you mean? Isn't redistribution to the top of the scale class war too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Who's been winning the class war, BTW?
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It would go something like that.Quote:
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I don't agree with what you are saying here. First of all, I agree president bush is a so-called conservative. He is not one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
People vote for people who say they will give them what they want. This is generally a bad thing, and most people are guilty of voting in a self centered manner instead of what is best for the welfare of all. People get taken this way.
I fail to follow how president Bush did redistribution at the top. I even doubt I will agree with your explaination because I think the wealthy already pay enough. I know the years I made six figures, I paid way fucking too much.
I am sick and tired of those who do not better themselves demanding more from those who do. That is the limit of what some may consider class warfare on my part. I believe all should share the burden, equal by percentage. This way the poor do not demand an increase on the rich, because it affects them is an equal manner, percentage wise.
I am disgusted that people consider themselves patriots when they want to see others taxes increase and theirs decrease, when it is already unfair to those who they want to increase. I consider them traitors to the Heart of America.
I take it you're unfamiliar with the impact of the Bush tax cuts and the de facto nationalization of finance. Do you read the papers, WC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
You think the rich pay too much and the middle and lower classes too little. How is that different?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
You're a traitor to the Heart of America, WC.
At least most of the growth with them was justified by the war. Agree or disagree with the necessity of war, we were at war! Social spending this administration is doing is robbing our children of their future. I saw one estimate that the national debt will double in 5 years with the current plans. This so-called stimulus spending is an excuse to implement more social programs that will likely never go away. We have too many already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
Just remember people. I warned of this already in the past. When it happens a few years out.... Remember.... You [liberals] helped cause it!
You're a goddam class warrior, WC. You just sympathize with the winners, even though you're a has been.
We're still at war, dummy.Quote:
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Yeah, you're such a liberal douche, Winehole!Quote:
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Have any more cut-n-pastes from your DailyKos diary?
Pwnt!
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
:lol Good night all.
That's not true. They may have had certain cuts, but when you look at the percentage of revenue the government gets by income class, the wealthy ended up paying even more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
You really believe the papers without checking for yourself?
The difference is that those who do not share in the pain of paying taxes cannot appreciate what raising taxes does. I want everyone to have a tax burden, to temper who they vote for and what policies politicians want to implement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
If you believe that, then I feel for you. I know my views are often not liked, but I will never believe in a free ride by force. Apparently, the poor are privileged above others as not having to pay part of their income.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
As it stands, about 97% of the taxes are paid by 50% of the people. The other 50% of the people have no stake at caring about the tax rates for the rest of us. In theory, when 50%+1% of the voters pay no taxes, we are doomed. They will vote for politicians and policies that rob from tax payers and give to them. It's been happening with class warfare already. Do you want to be part of that problem, or part of the solution?
How will history treat your views 20-30 years out?
Sure we are. Still, what is the latest? I forget, another $93 billion for war costs? What are we at for social engineering disguised as bailout? Well over a trillion this budget with reoccurring annually costs!Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
Doesn't anyone else see this disaster coming?
What views?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
You think you're the only one?Quote:
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Wow.. I though you and I could be civil without direct insults. What happened to you? You just keep the direct insults up, don't you? Am I talking to Winhole, or Chump?Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
If Obama is the Anti-Christ for going back 3 percentage points to the Clinton era tax rates, what the hell does that make Reagan at 50% and Eisenhower at 90%? The Dark Lord Sauron and Emperor Xenu?
Edgar Cayce you're not. You think you're clairvoyant?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Whenever you stop playing with yourself WC, the conversation can begin.
Anyone who disagrees with you is a traitor and wants to wreck the country, and you're twitting me for my lack of civility?Quote:
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Everything you put down to the libs can be turned around on you.
LOL...Quote:
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Fair enough I guess. I really pissed off my younger sister once. Some comment about how stupid someone must be to like a particular person. I don't remember the specifics, it was a few years ago.
Consider this. We rebelled for high taxation. Our ancestors came here to be free from oppression. The Heart of America meant being self sufficient and having the freedom to keep what you earned. I think our founding fathers would be ashamed of what this nation has become. The government stealing money from hard working people and giving it to those who choose not to better themselves or work for it. Think they would be proud of that?
Sorry, but that is my belief. I think as a whole, most people haven't a clue what is is to be an American. I both despise and pity those with the entitlement mentality. The only ones I think should be entitled are those who truly cannot provide for themselves. We have too many people who can be productive and aren't. Then these same people want to raise the taxes of those who are in a class I would like to strive for... FUCK THEM!