Photos of AF1 buzzing NYC not released

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05052009...res_167671.htm

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The $328,835 snapshots of an Air Force One backup plane buzzing lower Manhattan last week will not be shown to the public, the White House said yesterday.

"We have no plans to release them," an aide to President Obama told The Post, refusing to comment further.

The sole purpose of the secret photo-op, which sent thousands of New Yorkers running for cover, was to take new publicity shots of the presidential jet over the city.

"The photos . . . are classified -- that's ridiculous," Councilman Peter Vallone Jr., said.

The photos have not technically been "classified," a White House aide said, but they are being kept from public view.

New Yorkers said they could not understand how a president who shares intimate snapshots from the White House could justify keeping these secret.

"So we're not gonna see the fruits of this cruel joke?" said Frank Antonelli, 39, one of the Wall Street traders spooked by last week's flyover.

"I'm not surprised. Obama . . . wouldn't further all the bad publicity by putting out those pictures."

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Originally Posted by DarrinS (paraphrased)

If we could focus all this venom and vitriol info fighting Islamic terrorist (instead of Obama admin boogeymen), the war on terror could be won handily.

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Leave it up to government to piss away $300,000.

It's important!™

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Originally Posted by FaithInOne

Leave it up to government to piss away $300,000.

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or 4,000 + dead GIs

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

or 4,000 + dead GIs

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That only cost $800,000,000,000.

So far.

No arguments from me.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

That only cost $800,000,000,000.

So far.

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Chump don't be such a kool aid drinker. You must be outraged at Obama for blowing 300 big ones!

100,000+ Iraqis dead, millions internally displaced, Iraq's economy and infrastructure wrecked, US installed DAWA and SCIRI leading the country to sectarian civil war.

Yeah, Iraq owes us gratitude for wasting their whole country for reasons of political expedience rather than national security.

He's not Bush!™


Let's talk about Bush!™


Bush is still in office!™


Bush > Godwin's Law ™


Obama is uber change compared to Bush, He told me so! ™

Jeb Bush 2012!

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

100,000+ Iraqis dead, millions internally displaced, Iraq's economy and infrastructure wrecked, US installed DAWA and SCIRI leading the country to sectarian civil war.

Yeah, Iraq owes us gratitude for wasting their whole country for reasons of political expedience rather than national security.

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This photo op trumps the uncessary war Obama koolaid drinker!

Three trillion spent since September to backstop the banksters, with $12 trillion more to be committed, not including any eventual re-stimulus.

Trillion Shhmillion™

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Originally Posted by FaithInOne

No arguments from me.

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Originally Posted by FaithInOne

He's not Bush!™


Let's talk about Bush!™


Bush is still in office!™


Bush > Godwin's Law ™


Obama is uber change compared to Bush, He told me so! ™

Jeb Bush 2012!

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So there is an argument from you.

Two wrongs make a right.™

There are degrees or wrongness.

i heard swine flu was a distraction to keep af-1gate out of public consiousness

Jeffrey Dahmer should not be shunned, when Truman killed thousands.

-progressives.

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Originally Posted by Oh, Gee!!

i heard swine flu was a distraction to keep af-1gate out of public consiousness

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or from levi johnston's Tyra interview.

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Originally Posted by Ignignokt

Jeffrey Dahmer should not be shunned, when Truman killed thousands.

-progressives.

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...but Jeffrey Dahmer killed AMERICANS dammit!!!!

-conservatives.

:monkey fling, :monkey poo...

gtown is making less sense than usual.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

gtown is making less sense than usual.

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Chumpdumper is being as relevant as usual.

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Originally Posted by PixelPusher

...but Jeffrey Dahmer killed AMERICANS dammit!!!!

-conservatives.

:monkey fling, :monkey poo...

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:sleep Oh, i wasn't going to get in a sarcastic poo war with you, i was just shitting on your unoriginal dry humor.

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Originally Posted by Ignignokt

Chumpdumper is being as relevant as usual.

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This entire thread is irrelevant.

Which is why the subject got changed from NY Photo shoot to Bush's Iraqi Vacation right?


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Exactly.

No one has ever said this was a great idea. Everyone agrees it was a stupid mistake.

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Originally Posted by Ignignokt

Jeffrey Dahmer should not be shunned, when Truman killed thousands.

-progressives.

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life has shunned them both

I see that this thread has triggered the "Bush lied, people died" autoresponse.

Do you want the photos released?

If yes, Why?

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Do you want the photos released?

If yes, Why?

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Actually, I don't really care.

I don't care either but they should be released.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

I see that this thread has triggered the "Bush lied, people died" autoresponse.

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$300,000 dollars is not a fiscally significant sum.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

$300,000 dollars is not a fiscally significant sum.

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no

I see...

Release damaging photos of interrogations for no good reason.

Withhold photos of a publicity shoot.

Makes sense.

What interrogation photos were released?

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

What interrogation photos were released?

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The one's he's already committed to releasing. Are you saying that's not going to happen now?

I had no knowledge of the pictures.

Why were they taken?

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Release damaging photos of interrogations for no good reason.

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Accountability, moral courage, historical truth and equality before the law apparently cuts no ice with Yoni.

One more nail in the coffin. He will go down as one of the worse presidents in history.

^^^Broken record masquerading as an oracle.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

Accountability, moral courage, historical truth and equality before the law apparently cuts no ice with Yoni.

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Al Qaeda is laughing...even as they plan the global protests of outrage surely to kill more people than were harmed in any of photographs to be released.

Just like Obama's promise to end the war in Iraq...only to extend his deadline (and with recent uptick in violence and recent attacks by Iran inside Iraq, the chance of extending it yet again).

Just like Obama's promise to abandon the military tribunals...only to realize that'd be stupid.

Just like Obama's promise to go into Pakistan and root out bin Laden...only to realize his rhetoric has destablized the region further.

Just like Obama's promise to close Guantanamo Bay...only to have his Democrat colleagues in the Congress say...wait a minute, they're fucking dangerous.

Yep, just like all of these...he'll regret this decision or...like the others, he'll change his mind once he realizes how dangerous it is.

George Bush's policies are looking better and better to this idiot.

Yeah, Al Qaeda are laughing about people bitching on message boards about pictures of airplanes.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Yeah, Al Qaeda are laughing about people bitching on message boards about pictures of airplanes.

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No, New Yorkers are. You know, our fellow citizens. Who gives a fuck what al Qaeda thinks of the incident?

The amount of feigned outrage being displayed by conservatives on this board over any and every straw they can grasp is reaching ludicrous proportions. Give it the fuck up Yoni, nobody here really believes you actually care about any of this shit, other than for the obvious partisan hack agenda bullshit which permeates your every. fucking. post.

Congrats, you're Dan in disguise basically

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Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiAc

The amount of feigned outrage being displayed by conservatives on this board over any and every straw they can grasp is reaching ludicrous proportions. Give it the fuck up Yoni, nobody here really believes you actually care about any of this shit, other than for the obvious partisan hack agenda bullshit which permeates your every. fucking. post.

Congrats, you're Dan in disguise basically

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Oh please! 60 minutes devotes an episode to fake memos that cause the liberal left to go bananas for years and you'd begrudge me a few days of suspicion over why the White House refuses to release alleged PUBLICITY PHOTOS?

Good call. Why don't you give it up.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Oh please! 60 minutes devotes an episode to fake memos that cause the liberal left to go bananas for years and you'd begrudge me a few days of suspicion over why the White House refuses to release alleged PUBLICITY PHOTOS?

Good call. Why don't you give it up.

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well, congrats, you're acting like that which you seemingly couldn't stand. The left has been overreacting to shit for years, its your turn I guess... :rolleyes

Release the fucking photo's. Its a story not releasing them and not given a reason for it. Throw in 300,000 bones to pay for this shit,not telling NYC they were doing this and scaring people half to death makes NO sense! This guy is a douche bag. I have a feeling the the photos are a bust.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Al Qaeda is laughing...even as they plan the global protests of outrage surely to kill more people than were harmed in any of photographs to be released.

Just like Obama's promise to end the war in Iraq...only to extend his deadline (and with recent uptick in violence and recent attacks by Iran inside Iraq, the chance of extending it yet again).

Just like Obama's promise to abandon the military tribunals...only to realize that'd be stupid.

Just like Obama's promise to go into Pakistan and root out bin Laden...only to realize his rhetoric has destablized the region further.

Just like Obama's promise to close Guantanamo Bay...only to have his Democrat colleagues in the Congress say...wait a minute, they're fucking dangerous.

Yep, just like all of these...he'll regret this decision or...like the others, he'll change his mind once he realizes how dangerous it is.

George Bush's policies are looking better and better to this idiot.

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I thought you liked GWB's policies. Until a few months ago you defended them anyway. But this is a quibble.

You ducked my point and you're barking up the wrong tree with your own: I'm one of the guys who's been stressing the continuity.

You don't really pay attention who you're talking to, do you?

It might have something to do with why, after eight years on SpursTalk, you have zero friends.

You should really stop using this board as your personal barf bag.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

You should really stop using this board as your personal barf bag.

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You have the power to put me on ignore. Use it.

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Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiAc

well, congrats, you're acting like that which you seemingly couldn't stand. The left has been overreacting to shit for years, its your turn I guess... :rolleyes

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You'd have a point if I'm still talking about this in 4 years.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

I thought you liked GWB's policies. Until a few months ago you defended them anyway. But this is a quibble.

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I still support them.

It's the hypocrisy (maybe stupidity) of Obama slamming those policies and then, after obtaining office, falling back on them.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

You ducked my point and you're barking up the wrong tree with your own: I'm one of the guys who's been stressing the continuity.

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You don't have a point.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

You have the power to put me on ignore. Use it.

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I'd rather not. You're too comical.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

You don't have a point.

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No worries, I'll refresh your memory.

Revealing corrupt practices and crimes (like torture) serves historical truth, morality and legal accountability. Plus, the people have a right to know what their government does in their name.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

No worries, I'll refresh your memory.

Revealing corrupt practices and crimes (like torture) serves historical truth, morality and legal accountability. Plus, the people have a right to know what their government does in their name.

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You'd have a point if it had been torture. And, besides, doesn't the world already know what's been done? Into beating dead horses to further trash our country, are you?

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

I'd rather not. You're too comical.

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So, quit'cher bitching then.

Funny how there are now new spins on the flu. The media is doing their best to keep it a story.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

So, quit'cher bitching then.

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You first.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

You'd have a point if it had been torture. And, besides, doesn't the world already know what's been done? Into beating dead horses to further trash our country, are you?

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More rectal-cranial inversion. Enjoy the view, Yoni.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

You should really stop using this board as your personal barf bag.

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Hey, you started with the advice...I was just suggesting a solution to your obvious discomfort with my posting.

Take it, leave it, keep bitching...I really don't care.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Hey, you started with the advice...I was just suggesting a solution to your obvious discomfort with my posting.

Take it, leave it, keep bitching...I really don't care.

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I know this is not the coolest thing to say but WineHole might be a "special" person.

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

I know this is not the coolest thing to say but WineHole might be a "special" person.

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What a wuss. Why so tentative and meek? Come right out and say what you really mean.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

What a wuss. Why so tentative and meek? Come right out and say what you really mean.

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Thinking this maybe a sensitive issue for you, you should tell us?

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

Thinking this maybe a sensitive issue for you, you should tell us?

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I have no idea what you mean. You think I'm handicapped? Mentally retarded? Gay?

Be a man. Quit mincing around and say it. I can take it.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

I have no idea what you mean. You think I'm handicapped? Mentally retarded? Gay?

Be a man. Quit mincing around and say it. I can take it.

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Handicapped or mentally challenged. Which is it?

You tell me, Doc.

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

I know this is not the coolest thing to say but WineHole might be a "special" person.

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special person like Yonivore, wild cobra ,and jack sommerset?

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

You tell me, Doc.

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:lol ...my answer....... a little bit of both leaning towards handicapped with some fag in u.

You're obsessed with teh gheys, Jack. Jealous much? Or are you just curious?

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

Thinking this maybe a sensitive issue for you...

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You're monstrously insincere, Jack, but I guess you knew that already.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

You're obsessed with teh gheys, Jack. Jealous much? Or are you just curious?

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No, no....... and no. Thought you might want to tell ur story.

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The sole purpose of the secret photo-op, which sent thousands of New Yorkers running for cover, was to take new publicity shots of the presidential jet over the city.

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Could've accomplished the same thing with a computer and a photoshop geek in about 10 minutes.

Publicity shots that will never be released to the public. Hilarious.

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

No, no....... and no. Thought you might want to tell ur story.

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You'd like to hear it?

You are curious.

It may come as a shock to you that your gaydar is a little haywire.

You see, I'm a lesbian trapped in a masculine body. It was very hard for me to come out, but I had a lot of support and a lot of great friends to help me through it, and I'm very proud of who I am now. Fortunately my wife is cool with it, too. The adjustment was rough for us both, but now we're very happy together.

I know how important your gaydar is to you, and I'm sorry to disappoint.

I am gay, but I don't date men. I wish you all the luck in the world in your journey of self-discovery, Jack. Don't fight your fantasies. Accept them. Accept yourself.

If you ever need a shoulder to cry on, know that I'm here for you buddy.

Thanks for reaching out, and thanks for listening to my story. I hope it helps you become what you really want to be.

So you are handicapped?

Face it, Jack. You're obsessed with gays and gay sex. It's like every other post with you.

Time to step up to the mike.

you're handicapped?

Able bodied in every way. Does that turn you on?

Maybe you prefer the hot and curly stump love?

That's nothing to be ashamed of. Until you're at peace with yourself, you can't give yourself fully to another.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

You'd have a point if it had been torture.

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All the case law you and Bybee and Yoo pretty much confirms it.

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And, besides, doesn't the world already know what's been done? Into beating dead horses to further trash our country, are you?

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Everyone already knew about this threads topic as well.

Why do you hate America?

Just let it go and let it be. Let you be. You're in a safe place now. The only person you're fooling is yourself.

http://www.lala.com/song/360569489076388255

Song number ten.

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

Release the fucking photo's. Its a story not releasing them and not given a reason for it. Throw in 300,000 bones to pay for this shit,not telling NYC they were doing this and scaring people half to death makes NO sense! This guy is a douche bag. I have a feeling the the photos are a bust.

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I will now say that I firmly believe this.

There are no photo's to release.

Obama wanted to see the WTC site, so he had the bird fly over. Realizing how stupid it was, they are now lying to us.

I will retain this position unless valid photos are released, and someone can authenticate the negatives. No photoshopping please.

Where did they say Obama was when this happened...

To my knowledge, they didn't!

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

I will now say that I firmly believe this.

There are no photo's to release.

Obama wanted to see the WTC site, so he had the bird fly over. Realizing how stupid it was, they are now lying to us.

I will retain this position unless valid photos are released, and someone can authenticate the negatives. No photoshopping please.

Where did they say Obama was when this happened...

To my knowledge, they didn't!

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Its such a simple story. Obviously they should show the pics. Keep this BS in the news and noone talks about the trillion dollars Obama spent. It's SICK.

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

I will now say that I firmly believe this.

There are no photo's to release.

Obama wanted to see the WTC site, so he had the bird fly over. Realizing how stupid it was, they are now lying to us.

I will retain this position unless valid photos are released, and someone can authenticate the negatives. No photoshopping please.

Where did they say Obama was when this happened...

To my knowledge, they didn't!

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Obama was giving a 40-minute speech at the National Academy of Sciences in Washington DC which started at 9:12 AM that day according to the transcript. The flyover happened shortly after 10 AM from what I have read.

Even the New York Post said he wasn't on the plane.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Obama was giving a 40-minute speech at the National Academy of Sciences in Washington DC which started at 9:12 AM that day according to the transcript. The flyover happened shortly after 10 AM from what I have read.

Even the New York Post said he wasn't on the plane.

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Fine. I find it rather disturbing that the story they gave is not supported with the alleged photos. Everyone should be concerned. What is the truth of the matter?

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

Fine. I find it rather disturbing that the story they gave is not supported with the alleged photos. Everyone should be concerned. What is the truth of the matter?

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Someone wanted a picture of AF One against the NYC skyline. Local officials were notified, but pressured to keep silent about it. The plane flew low with a fighter escort, so people freaked out a little.

It was a bad idea. It was expensive. It was embarrassing. It was a bit scary for the New Yorkers who saw it. Obama apologized for it.

The photos will not be released, since they memorialize a foolish boner.

What do you think the truth is WC?

You know what? If they released them, everyone would just see a photo of a fucking plane and this thread wouldn't exist. NOT releasing them makes it a story. I don't see what the BFD is about these photos. Just release them and no one will care about this in a week or two.

Releasing the pictures will automatically produce a 30 minute segment in Fox News titled "$300,000 for this?" followed by interviews with angry New Yorkers while overlapping said pictures on the screen.

They decided to end this whole issue after they apologized for it. Fine by me.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

You know what? If they released them, everyone would just see a photo of a fucking plane and this thread wouldn't exist.

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if Obama knew a thread was going to be created about it on ST.com, he would have surely released the photos immediately

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Originally Posted by Oh, Gee!!

if Obama knew a thread was going to be created about it on ST.com, he would have surely released the photos immediately

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good one

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

Time to step up to the mike.

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I can't believe I actually watched that entire video! :lmao

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Originally Posted by Alex Jones

I can't believe I actually watched that entire video! :lmao

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:lol

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...se/obama-1.jpg

Even though the government would not admit Air force one flew over NYC they did release these five frames.










http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p.../nyc-plane.gif

This will all blow over as soon as something like Britney Spears snatch comes along.

While Washington burns, SpursTalk fiddles.