Nancy Pelosi is toast..

I watched Nancy Pelosi's news conference and she said the CIA lied to her. I may be a democrat but she is causing major damage with her pie hole.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennt...ied_to_me.html

Pelosi: Bush briefers lied to me

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says Bush administration intelligence officials told her explicitly they weren't using waterboarding on terror detainees during a Sept. 2002 briefing on interrogation tactics -- months after they had begun waterboarding Abu Zabaydah.

Pelosi also called on CIA director Leon Panetta to release full details on her briefing -- and shook her head in the affirmative when asked if the administration had actually "lied" to her.

"The only mention of waterboarding in the briefing was that it was not being employed," she told reporters, reading from a prepared statement -- twice for emphasis.

The intelligence briefers gave Pelosi, she said, "inaccurate and incomplete information."

"Perhaps they should release the briefing-- I would be very happy if they released the briefing," Pelosi added.

Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-Mich.), the ranking member on the House Intelligence committee has already made a similar request.


Yoniwhore is going to love this.

You shut your damned mouth Joe!

well, for the record, i haven't heard anyone being a fan of pelosi.

If she's lying the voters will make her accountable. If they keep re electing her then conservatives need to shut up because no matter what they say or do it all comes down to who her district wants to represent them. Of course Yoni has no basis to bitch unless he lives in her district.

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If she's lying the voters will make her accountable. If they keep re electing her then conservatives need to shut up because no matter what they say or do it all comes down to who her district wants to represent them. Of course Yoni has no basis to bitch unless he lives in her district.

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If she's lying she should be forced to step down.

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You shut your damned mouth Joe!

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:lol I wouldn't vote for her again but that is just me.

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If she's lying she should be forced to step down.

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I concur.

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If she's lying she should be forced to step down.

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forced by who?

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forced by who?

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Her peers.

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Her peers.

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They can try and force her out but I believe it is her decision to. Don't get me wrong I have never been a big fan of Nancy Pelosi but she does not have to step down even if her peers want her to.

With enough pressure it will happen. Look at Trent Lott. And that was just because he kissed an old racist's ass on his birthday.

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With enough pressure it will happen. Look at Trent Lott. And that was just because he kissed an old racist's ass on his birthday.

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I don't like her much anyway so it does not really matter to me either way.

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They can try and force her out but I believe it is her decision to. Don't get me wrong I have never been a big fan of Nancy Pelosi but she does not have to step down even if her peers want her to.

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They absolutely can take away her Speakership.

In order to take away her seat, she would have to be impeached. I doubt that would happen, but if she is lying about this, I cannot believe she would be allowed to continue as Speaker.

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They absolutely can take away her Speakership.

In order to take away her seat, she would have to be impeached. I doubt that would happen, but if she is lying about this, I cannot believe she would be allowed to continue as Speaker.

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Got it. Let them strip her of her post anyway because she has been a horrible Speaker of the House.

Pelosi represents everything thats wrong with the Democratic party. The sooner the next Speaker is put in position, the better.

With that said, who would be in line for her job?

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With that said, who would be in line for her job?

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http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/20...he-plumber.jpg

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Pelosi represents everything thats wrong with the Democratic party. The sooner the next Speaker is put in position, the better.

With that said, who would be in line for her job?

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Does Cheney represent everything that is wrong with the republican party?
The Democratic party is strong because of Obama, IMO, the problem with the Republicans is they currently don't have a "superstar" as Joe Scarborough puts right now.

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Got it. Let them strip her of her post anyway because she has been a horrible Speaker of the House.

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ABSOLUTELY!!!! How can we help get this done?

It would be better for the President if Pelosi were gone. She is a bit of an idiot.

Speaker of the House, officially known as the Speaker for the United States House of Representatives, is truly the highest honor in which you can directly represent the people of the United States. The Speaker of the House is elected by other members to preside over the house and carry out many other legislative, administrative and political duties.

The democrats could have put someone else in but Pelosi best represents them. They are as guilty as her especially Obama.

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Speaker of the House, officially known as the Speaker for the United States House of Representatives, is truly the highest honor in which you can directly represent the people of the United States. The Speaker of the House is elected by other members to preside over the house and carry out many other legislative, administrative and political duties.

The democrats could have put someone else in but Pelosi best represents them. They are as guilty as her especially Obama.

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Do you have any idea how little sense that last sentence makes?

Pelosi is an idiot
she and the so called president will get into it
I do not like both of them

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Do you have any idea how little sense that last sentence makes?

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They elected her. She is the best of the best in that party. They are all guilty.

she is useless

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Speaker of the House, officially known as the Speaker for the United States House of Representatives, is truly the highest honor in which you can directly represent the people of the United States. The Speaker of the House is elected by other members to preside over the house and carry out many other legislative, administrative and political duties.

The democrats could have put someone else in but Pelosi best represents them. They are as guilty as her especially Obama.

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You don't know jack shit so STFU.

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Speaker of the House, officially known as the Speaker for the United States House of Representatives, is truly the highest honor in which you can directly represent the people of the United States. The Speaker of the House is elected by other members to preside over the house and carry out many other legislative, administrative and political duties.

The democrats could have put someone else in but Pelosi best represents them. They are as guilty as her especially Obama.

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She doesn't represent all democrats. don't be stupid.

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They elected her. She is the best of the best in that party. They are all guilty.

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so are all republicans guilty and resposiblefor the unuecessary war in Iraq? I mean after all they did vote for the guy who started it.

Are you really this stupid?

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so are all republicans guilty and resposiblefor the unuecessary war in Iraq? I mean after all they did vote for the guy who started it.

Are you really this stupid?

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So did the Democrats vote for the war. Are you really that STUPID. GOD give me a fucking break. This will piss you off fag, we should have attacked Iraq and I don't see Obama doing a damn thing to get them out.

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They elected her. She is the best of the best in that party. They are all guilty.

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Jack, you really might receive a little more credibility on this board if your positions were less sweeping. "They"...referring to all democrats? No. Only the democrats in the district in California voted for her to represent them. The democratic representatives in the House elected her the Speaker, but that election says absolutely nothing about their beliefs about her credibility on the issue at hand. Obama, never having voted in California nor having ever been a member of the House, ever voted for Pelosi for anything.

I am not a democrat. I cannot ABIDE Pelosi for any number of reasons, including her assinine position on this issue. But your comments do not add to the debate.

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You don't know jack shit so STFU.

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:lol I know Pelosi is the leader. Do you know what the Speaker of the House means and how you become Speaker of the House. When you do come back, say "sorry, I am a dildo and I should STFU"

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Jack, you really might receive a little more credibility on this board if your positions were less sweeping. "They"...referring to all democrats? No. Only the democrats in the district in California voted for her to represent them. The democratic representatives in the House elected her the Speaker, but that election says absolutely nothing about their beliefs about her credibility on the issue at hand. Obama, never having voted in California nor having ever been a member of the House, ever voted for Pelosi for anything.

I am not a democrat. I cannot ABIDE Pelosi for any number of reasons, including her assinine position on this issue. But your comments do not add to the debate.

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GAWD....get over yourself.

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Jack, you really might receive a little more credibility on this board if your positions were less sweeping. "They"...referring to all democrats? No. Only the democrats in the district in California voted for her to represent them. The democratic representatives in the House elected her the Speaker, but that election says absolutely nothing about their beliefs about her credibility on the issue at hand. Obama, never having voted in California nor having ever been a member of the House, ever voted for Pelosi for anything.

I am not a democrat. I cannot ABIDE Pelosi for any number of reasons, including her assinine position on this issue. But your comments do not add to the debate.

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Intellectual honesty is not jack's strong suit.

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So did the Democrats vote for the war. Are you really that STUPID. GOD give me a fucking break. This will piss you off fag, we should have attacked Iraq and I don't see Obama doing a damn thing to get them out.

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The president made the decision. you do know that right dummy?

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intellectual honesty is not jack's strong suit.

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The president made the decision. you do know that right dummy?

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Who gave him the power dummy? Congress. Some of you fuckers just keep coming with the excuses. Just like old hag Pelosi saying she had no idea our country waterboarded to get information.

"The Iraq WAR Resolution (formally the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 ) is a joint resolution (i.e., a law) passed by the United States CONGRESS in October 2002 as Public Law No: 107-243, authorizing the Iraq War."

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Pelosi represents everything thats wrong with the Democratic party. The sooner the next Speaker is put in position, the better.

With that said, who would be in line for her job?

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I'm not critiquing your statement here, but I'm wondering if you could clarify a bit. I never understood why people hate Pelosi soooo much, i can't really think of anything she has done to justify it.

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Who gave him the power dummy? Congress. Some of you fuckers just keep coming with the excuses. Just like old hag Pelosi saying she had no idea our country waterboarded to get information.

"The Iraq WAR Resolution (formally the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 ) is a joint resolution (i.e., a law) passed by the United States CONGRESS in October 2002 as Public Law No: 107-243, authorizing the Iraq War."

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Hey dummy they voted for authorization to use Military force if necessary..was it necessary dummy? So now are you telling me that Congress made the President go to war dummy? Did the president have to authorize the use of force irregardless of the resolution? yes. If they voted no on the resolution could the president ignore that? yes.. don't be stupid.

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Hey dummy they voted for authorization to use Military force if necessary..was it necessary dummy? So now are you telling me that Congress made the President go to war dummy? Did the president have to authorize the use of force irregardless of the resolution? yes. If they voted no on the resolution could the president ignore that? yes.. don't be stupid.

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Yes dummy, it was dummy,read again dummy, if you need ur partner to help explain dummy go get him.

"The Iraq WAR Resolution (formally the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 ) is a joint resolution (i.e., a law) passed by the United States CONGRESS in October 2002 as Public Law No: 107-243, authorizing the Iraq War."

This was a law that congress voted on dummy. The chance of war was high dummy. Bush could not attack Canada,Mexico,France,Germany or any other country dummy. This power was given to Bush only for Iraq dummy. Congress knew there was a VERY good chance he would use the power they gave him dummy and guess what dummy? He used it. And as time passes it looks like they all made the right decsion dummy.

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Yes dummy, it was dummy,read again dummy, if you need ur partner to help explain dummy go get him.

"The Iraq WAR Resolution (formally the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 ) is a joint resolution (i.e., a law) passed by the United States CONGRESS in October 2002 as Public Law No: 107-243, authorizing the Iraq War."

This was a law that congress voted on dummy. The chance of war was high dummy. Bush could not attack Canada,Mexico,France,Germany or any other country dummy. This power was given to Bush only for Iraq dummy. Congress knew there was a VERY good chance he would use the power they gave him dummy and guess what dummy? He used it. And as time passes it looks like they all made the right decsion dummy.

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Ok I accept your apology. The resolution was to use force if necessary. The chance for war wasn't high you moron. Bush could have attacked anybody he wanted to :lmao with or without a resolution.. stop digging a deeper hole dummy.

jack cracks me up. :lmao

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Ok I accept your apology. The resolution was to use force if necessary. The chance for war wasn't high you moron. Bush could have attacked anybody he wanted to :lmao with or without a resolution.. stop digging a deeper hole dummy.

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What hole are you talking about? Read the LAW again congress passed. It does not say ANYBODY. It says Iraq. Please tell me where that law says anyone? I am begging you to read again. Here I will post it again for you.

"The Iraq WAR Resolution (formally the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 ) is a joint resolution (i.e., a law) passed by the United States CONGRESS in October 2002 as Public Law No: 107-243, authorizing the Iraq War."

Where does it say anybody?

Apology....WTF are you talking about? Are you stupid? Do you just make up shit. You call me a moron yet you think I apologized to you. Weird man.

You are saying the chance of war was not high? Thats wrong. Thats silly wrong. You might be the only dumbass on the planet that thought congress passed this law for the sake of passing it. But again you think it says a president can declare war on any country. :blah

that was a nice apology, jack. :thumbsup

She's been framed I tells ya!

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I'm not critiquing your statement here, but I'm wondering if you could clarify a bit. I never understood why people hate Pelosi soooo much, i can't really think of anything she has done to justify it.

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Because BEFORE she was speaker of the house she was already one of the right's favorite liberal punching bags I guess because of things she said.

Cynthia McKinney too, but I think she hit a policeman or something and isn't in Congress anymore.

Pelosi is a dumb bitch. I have written her off ever since she won that position and uttered the words

"Impeachment is off the table"

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pelosi is a dumb bitch. I have written her off ever since she won that position and uttered the words

"impeachment is off the table"

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+1000

:corn: :corn: :corn: :corn:

I think this is going to be an interesting week in politics...

Steny Hoyer is already measuring for new drapes and a mahogany desk.

Fuck that cunt. She's the Democrat answer to Cheney.

Exclusive: Nancy Pelosi's Address to CIA Employees

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Junior Cub Reporter Biff Spackle secured an exclusive copy of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's speech to CIA employees.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_orkXxp0bhE...14-pelosi6.jpg

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People, we live in a world that has rules and those rules need to be enforced by Members of Congress and their staffers . Who's gonna do it? You? You, DCI Panetta? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom.

You weep for the victims of 9/11 and curse the terrorists; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that those victims' deaths, while tragic, probably saved lives and that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves terrorists from illegal torture.

You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties you want me in Congress, you need me in Congress.

We use words like tax, spend, entitlement and "investment". We use them as the backbone of a life trying to keep our power. You use them as a punchline.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to men and women who rise and sleep under the blanket of the very money I provide and then question the manner in which I provide it.

I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a ballot and cast a vote. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.

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We can't handle the truth.

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Exclusive: Nancy Pelosi's Address to CIA Employees

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Thats funny!

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Hey dummy they voted for authorization to use Military force if necessary..was it necessary dummy? So now are you telling me that Congress made the President go to war dummy? Did the president have to authorize the use of force irregardless of the resolution? yes. If they voted no on the resolution could the president ignore that? yes.. don't be stupid.

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And then they all voted over and over to fund it.

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Fuck that cunt. She's the Democrat answer to Cheney.

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AH.. then can we trust this adminsistration anymore than the last one.

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And then they all voted over and over to fund it.

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He does not get any of that. He has been brainwashed. "Bush bad, war bad"! dum de dum,dum de dum..."Bush bad"

Oh well

I didn't vote for Obama.

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Ok I accept your apology. The resolution was to use force if necessary.

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With the determination of necessity left to the Executive.

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The chance for war wasn't high you moron. Bush could have attacked anybody he wanted to :lmao with or without a resolution.. stop digging a deeper hole dummy.

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Not without the funding Congress approved and continued to approve and, by the way, continues to approve.

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Oh well

I didn't vote for Obama.

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And, how does that make you feel?

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And, how does that make you feel?

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Makes me feel great. No regrets at all. Not defeated like you must have been when your guy lost.

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Makes me feel great. No regrets at all. Not defeated like you must have been when your guy lost.

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that's your standard of victory? your guy won, I don't know if anyone's told you but this isn't an American Idol episode.

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that's your standard of victory? your guy won, I don't know if anyone's told you but this isn't an American Idol episode.

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Standard of victory? No shit..it was an election and not AI. :lol

:lol

What else would the "standard of victory" if not actually winning?

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:lol

What else would the "standard of victory" if not actually winning?

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wow, chumpy doesn't even get it

that makes 2 with a shallow standard of victory

:lol again.

If we're just talking elections, what else could it be?

Please explain yourself.

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wow, chumpy doesn't even get it

that makes 2 with a shallow standard of victory

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Okay, explain it to me young wise one. Don't get upset because of your shallow defeat.

http://www.bartcop.com/pelosi-knew2.jpg

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And then they all voted over and over to fund it.

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what other choice did they have? abandon the troops? Need I remind you that they aren't the ones who ordered them there without sufficient supplies to begin with with. As Rmmy so elequently stated "we had to go with the military we had, not the one we wished for". So are you saying the dems should have abandon the troops during a time of war skippy?

Why do you and jack hate the military so much?

Let's say you are a liberal "activist". What are you hoping to accomplish by screaming "war criminal" at someone? I didn't see anyone arresting Rumsfeld, so I guess it's not working.


Also, when did it become the norm on college campuses to shout down conservative speakers, vs debating them on issues? I guess if you can't win based on ideas, you just have to drown them out with noise.

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Let's say you are a liberal "activist". What are you hoping to accomplish by screaming "war criminal" at someone? I didn't see anyone arresting Rumsfeld, so I guess it's not working.


Also, when did it become the norm on college campuses to shout down conservative speakers, vs debating them on issues? I guess if you can't win based on ideas, you just have to drown them out with noise.

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That goes both ways.

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Let's say you are a liberal "activist". What are you hoping to accomplish by screaming "war criminal" at someone? I didn't see anyone arresting Rumsfeld, so I guess it's not working.


Also, when did it become the norm on college campuses to shout down conservative speakers, vs debating them on issues? I guess if you can't win based on ideas, you just have to drown them out with noise.

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What ideas are you referring to? These aren't the same ones that we have had for the last 8 years? The same one's that America overwhelmingly rejected the last 2 election cycles? Are these ideas working for you?

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Let's say you are a liberal "activist". What are you hoping to accomplish by screaming "war criminal" at someone? I didn't see anyone arresting Rumsfeld, so I guess it's not working.

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I don't see Rummy taking any vacations in Spain, so there must be something to it.

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Also, when did it become the norm on college campuses to shout down conservative speakers, vs debating them on issues? I guess if you can't win based on ideas, you just have to drown them out with noise.

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Normal on college campuses for a long time, and hardly limited to braindead lefties.

Posted in wrong thread. My bad.

But, going back to Pelosi, it is interesting that she brought up WMD in Iraq and then says that this whole CIA briefing thing is a "diversionary tactic". I don't now how she said all that with a straight face.

Bob Graham says the CIA fudged the dates of the briefings, and Leon Panetta refuses to vouch for the accuracy of the released summaries.

Thomas Jefferson said, “to lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to the written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the ends to the means."

How are we losing our country by adhering to the law, Jack? You really think terrorists can defeat the USA?

winehole......you just haven't embraced the fear.

come over to our side.

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How are we losing our country by adhering to the law, Jack? You really think terrorists can defeat the USA?

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jack is trying to tell us that the ends justify the means.

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Leon Panetta refuses to vouch for the accuracy of the released summaries.

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Not anymore...

He calls bullshit on Pelosi's attempt to paint the CIA as a bunch of lying liars who lie.

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Panetta, President Obama's pick to run the clandestine agency, wrote in a memo to CIA employees Friday that "CIA officers briefed truthfully on the interrogation of Abu Zubaydah, describing 'the enhanced techniques that had been employed,'" according to CIA records.

"We are an agency of high integrity, professionalism and dedication," Panetta said in the memo. "Our task is to tell it like it is—even if that’s not what people always want to hear. Keep it up. Our national security depends on it."

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jack is trying to tell us that the ends justify the means.

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If the ends are extracting actionable intelligence that will save innocent American lives and the means are the enhanced interrogation techniques; I agree.

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If the ends are extracting actionable intelligence that will save innocent American lives and the means are the enhanced interrogation techniques; I agree.

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Until, of course, somebody suspects you are a terrorist and said 'enhanced interrogation techniques' are applied to you. Then you'll bitch and whine how is it possible that the land of the free turned into a Nazi camp (and most likely blame it on the Democrats).

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Until, of course, somebody suspects you are a terrorist and said 'enhanced interrogation techniques' are applied to you. Then you'll bitch and whine how is it possible that the land of the free turned into a Nazi camp (and most likely blame it on the Democrats).

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Well, if I was a know associate of a group of terrorists that had just killed 3,000 of my citizens, caused billions of dollars of physical damage, and tens of billions more in economic strife; and there is no argument these three individuals were that, I'd probably expect to have information extracted from me in whatever manner they deemed appropriate.

At that point, I'd count myself as lucky that it was the United States of America and not any other country in the world, doing the interrogations.

Be careful for what you wish, Cindy Sheehan is waiting to take her seat. The voters in her district will go farther left, and not the other way around.

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Until, of course, somebody suspects you are a terrorist and said 'enhanced interrogation techniques' are applied to you. Then you'll bitch and whine how is it possible that the land of the free turned into a Nazi camp (and most likely blame it on the Democrats).

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:lmao Yoniwhore would crack if you threw a water balloon at his ass.

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Be careful for what you wish, Cindy Sheehan is waiting to take her seat. The voters in her district will go farther left, and not the other way around.

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I'd love to see Cindy Sheehan in the U. S. Congress, representing the people of San Francisco. That would be perfect.

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:lmao Yoniwhore would crack if you threw a water balloon at his ass.

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I'd probably crack like Khalid Sheik Mohammed but, that's not really the point here, is it?

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I'd probably crack like Khalid Sheik Mohammed but, that's not really the point here, is it?

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The only point you have is still up Bush's ass.

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I'd probably crack like Khalid Sheik Mohammed but, that's not really the point here, is it?

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If he cracked in 30 seconds, why did he have to be waterboarded 183 times?

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If he cracked in 30 seconds, why did he have to be waterboarded 183 times?

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He wasn't waterboarded 183 times...and, once you have some information, verify it, it could lead to more questions and, more interrogation.

I believe they said he underwent 5 waterboarding sessions.

are you saying it would be bad to waterboard someone 183 times?

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are you saying it would be bad to waterboard someone 183 times?

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No. I'm not saying that.

is 5 times better?

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He wasn't waterboarded 183 times...and, once you have some information, verify it, it could lead to more questions and, more interrogation.

I believe they said he underwent 5 waterboarding sessions.

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If you were kicked in the groin 183 times in five sessions, how many times would you believe you were kicked in the groin?

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If you were kicked in the groin 183 times in five sessions, how many times would you believe you were kicked in the groin?

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If your barber cuts your hair using 183 passes of the clippers, how many haircuts did you get?

If a firing squad shoots 10 bullets into your heart, how many times are you executed?

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If a firing squad shoots 10 bullets into your heart, how many times are you executed?

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If you were shot ten times -- how many times were you shot?

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If you were shot ten times -- how many times were you shot?

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You were shot ten times in order to be executed...just like KSM had water poured on his face multiple times, during each waterboarding session.

Each pour doesn't constitute an individual waterboarding session anymore than each pass with the clippers constitutes a haircut.

Why are you arguing this? I'm not particularly disturbed by the prospect of him being waterboarded 183 times either.

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You were shot ten times in order to be executed...just like KSM had water poured on his face multiple times, during each waterboarding session.

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Having a bullet enter your body is being shot.

Having water poured on your face is being waterboarded.

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Why are you arguing this? I'm not particularly disturbed by the prospect of him being waterboarded 183 times either.

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Then why are you arguing this? Why try to downplay the numbers? Say he was waterboarded 183 times with pride if it doesn't bother you.

Several platoons of American soldiers are being shipped from USA to Iraq where they will try to stop terror and help free the Iraqi people. The soldiers in each platoon needs to be divided equally among 3, 4, 5, or 7 squads. What is the least number of soldiers that each squad can have?

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Having a bullet enter your body is being shot.

Having water poured on your face is being waterboarded.

Then why are you arguing this? Why try to downplay the numbers? Say he was waterboarded 183 times with pride if it doesn't bother you.

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Because it's not accurate. Why not count the number drops in each pour and say he was waterboarded a bazillion times?

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Because it's not accurate. Why not count the number drops in each pour and say he was waterboarded a bazillion times?

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That would be inaccurate.

He was waterboarded 183 times.