How are we losing our country by adhering to the law, Jack? You really think terrorists can defeat the USA?
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How are we losing our country by adhering to the law, Jack? You really think terrorists can defeat the USA?
winehole......you just haven't embraced the fear.
come over to our side.
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Originally Posted by Winehole23
jack is trying to tell us that the ends justify the means.
Not anymore...Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
He calls bullshit on Pelosi's attempt to paint the CIA as a bunch of lying liars who lie.
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Panetta, President Obama's pick to run the clandestine agency, wrote in a memo to CIA employees Friday that "CIA officers briefed truthfully on the interrogation of Abu Zubaydah, describing 'the enhanced techniques that had been employed,'" according to CIA records.
"We are an agency of high integrity, professionalism and dedication," Panetta said in the memo. "Our task is to tell it like it is—even if that’s not what people always want to hear. Keep it up. Our national security depends on it."
If the ends are extracting actionable intelligence that will save innocent American lives and the means are the enhanced interrogation techniques; I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
Until, of course, somebody suspects you are a terrorist and said 'enhanced interrogation techniques' are applied to you. Then you'll bitch and whine how is it possible that the land of the free turned into a Nazi camp (and most likely blame it on the Democrats).Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Well, if I was a know associate of a group of terrorists that had just killed 3,000 of my citizens, caused billions of dollars of physical damage, and tens of billions more in economic strife; and there is no argument these three individuals were that, I'd probably expect to have information extracted from me in whatever manner they deemed appropriate.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
At that point, I'd count myself as lucky that it was the United States of America and not any other country in the world, doing the interrogations.
Be careful for what you wish, Cindy Sheehan is waiting to take her seat. The voters in her district will go farther left, and not the other way around.
:lmao Yoniwhore would crack if you threw a water balloon at his ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
I'd love to see Cindy Sheehan in the U. S. Congress, representing the people of San Francisco. That would be perfect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh, Gee!!
I'd probably crack like Khalid Sheik Mohammed but, that's not really the point here, is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeChalupa
The only point you have is still up Bush's ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
If he cracked in 30 seconds, why did he have to be waterboarded 183 times?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
He wasn't waterboarded 183 times...and, once you have some information, verify it, it could lead to more questions and, more interrogation.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I believe they said he underwent 5 waterboarding sessions.
are you saying it would be bad to waterboard someone 183 times?
No. I'm not saying that.Quote:
Originally Posted by clambake
is 5 times better?
If you were kicked in the groin 183 times in five sessions, how many times would you believe you were kicked in the groin?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
If your barber cuts your hair using 183 passes of the clippers, how many haircuts did you get?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
If a firing squad shoots 10 bullets into your heart, how many times are you executed?
If you were shot ten times -- how many times were you shot?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
You were shot ten times in order to be executed...just like KSM had water poured on his face multiple times, during each waterboarding session.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Each pour doesn't constitute an individual waterboarding session anymore than each pass with the clippers constitutes a haircut.
Why are you arguing this? I'm not particularly disturbed by the prospect of him being waterboarded 183 times either.
Having a bullet enter your body is being shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Having water poured on your face is being waterboarded.
Then why are you arguing this? Why try to downplay the numbers? Say he was waterboarded 183 times with pride if it doesn't bother you.Quote:
Why are you arguing this? I'm not particularly disturbed by the prospect of him being waterboarded 183 times either.
Several platoons of American soldiers are being shipped from USA to Iraq where they will try to stop terror and help free the Iraqi people. The soldiers in each platoon needs to be divided equally among 3, 4, 5, or 7 squads. What is the least number of soldiers that each squad can have?
Because it's not accurate. Why not count the number drops in each pour and say he was waterboarded a bazillion times?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
That would be inaccurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
He was waterboarded 183 times.