Re: Suspect surrendered on the ground is kicked in face by police
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Yonivore
Yeah, I think you are. It looks like the suspect was a minority so, there'll be a whole community up in arms demanding his head on a stake.
The city will give it to them.
Yeah, you are probably right.
Re: Suspect surrendered on the ground is kicked in face by police
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jack sommerset
Yeah, you are probably right.
It's still the cop's fault. He knows the helicopter is capturing the entire episode.
Lose your head with someone who deserves to get their ass kicked, you're liable to lose it on someone who doesn't.
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Yoni's takes on this thread are surprisingly spot on. ;)
I kid, I kid.
Re: Suspect surrendered on the ground is kicked in face by police
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Cry Havoc
Yoni's takes on this thread are surprisingly spot on. ;)
I kid, I kid.
About me being "spot on" or about it being "surprising?"
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any good cop knows you wait until the perp is in the jail parking lot before you smack him around; that way you can call it resisting arrest much easier.
Re: Suspect surrendered on the ground is kicked in face by police
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Oh, Gee!!
any good cop knows you wait until the perp is in the jail parking lot before you smack him around; that way you can call it resisting arrest much easier.
Yup, tell them to kick off their shoes and then beat them to a pulp.
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6...08b8514970b-pi
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...-of-a-tel.html
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The kick to the head delivered by an El Monte police officer to a car-chase suspect lying on the ground at the end of a televised high-speed pursuit was a legally justified “distraction blow," an attorney for the police union said today.
Dieter Dammeier, attorney for the El Monte Police Officers Assn, said the officer acted within his training and department policy when he delivered the kick.
“Unfortunately these things never look good on video. Sometimes officers have to use force when dealing with bad guys,” said Dammeier. “The officer initially came upon the suspect alone. The suspect hadn’t been searched and was a parolee and a gang member. The individual officer saw some movement. He feared the parolee might have a weapon or be about to get up. So the officer did what is known as a distraction blow. It wasn’t designed to hurt the man, just distract him."
El Monte officers, he said “are trained to deliver a distraction blow to stop a [suspect] doing what they planning on doing.”
The decision by the officer to kick the head of a suspect who was surrendering has been criticized by use-of-force experts. Samuel Walker, a criminology professor at the University of Nebraska, called the kick to the head "unprovoked and unnecessary . . . It's one of the worst incidents of this kind that I've seen." The incident began Wednesday afternoon when gang officers recognized a man they believed was a gang member driving a Toyota. They were trying to determine if the car was stolen when the driver committed an unspecified traffic violation.
Richard Rodriguez sped off, blowing through stop signs and running red lights at speeds reaching 80 mph, even attempting to elude authorities by driving on the opposite side of the road and on a sidewalk full of pedestrians, said department spokesman Ken Alva.
Video shows Rodriguez being kicked in the face after he had put his hands up and fell to the ground with his arms above his head. Two officers are seen in news footage giving each other high-fives. Alva said investigators are also examining the actions of a second officer, who used a plastic flashlight to subdue Rodriguez.
-- Richard Winton
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The 'wars' on drugs and gangs have become quite profitable. I wouldn't expect those to end anytime soon.
As for this incident, can they both lose? Speeding the wrong way down a residential street certainly is not consistent with the public welfare. Then again, neither is cops kicking suspects in the head when they already have them in a prone position and have a gun on them.
Re: Suspect surrendered on the ground is kicked in face by police
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Yonivore
I think the suspect almost got what he deserved.
Now, the cop will probably get what he deserves.
It's a win-win for society. The only thing that would have made it better is if the suspect had suffered a compression fracture of the cervical spine with complete displacement of the spinal cord. Damn, that was a hard kick to the top of the noggin'.
The cop probably wouldn't be in anymore trouble than he is already and, well, that fucker wouldn't be driving his Grandma's Delta 88 into oncoming traffic anymore...in addition to whatever other crimes he's committed; he could have laid in a bed on a respirator or died right there.
This cop is probably done, career-wise, and may even be headed to jail. But, that's where idiot cops who take pot shots belong...off the street or in jail.
Pretty darn accurate
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The suspect hadn’t been searched and was a parolee and a gang member. The individual officer saw some movement. He feared the parolee might have a weapon or be about to get up. So the officer did what is known as a distraction blow. It wasn’t designed to hurt the man, just distract him."
Bullshit! anyone who has watched that video knows that kick was meant to hurt the crook. Distraction blow my ass. The dumbass felon got less than what he deserved, but this cop is a moron.
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"distraction blow" ? GMAFB :lol
lawyering is a scumbag profession, just a notch below Wall Streetering.
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Yonivore
About me being "spot on" or about it being "surprising?"
The surprising part. haha.
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Cry Havoc
The surprising part. haha.
Just wanted to be clear.
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The only thing that bothers me is that this gang bitch will probably walk free because of the cop's stupidity. :td
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People who run from the cops should be treated like someone running down the street firing a gun.
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Had he hit a car and killed some children when he was on the wrong side of the rode this thread would be in the club and full of "burn that mofo alive" and so on.
Fuck that guy, had you been driving with your family and all of a sudden he comes toward you and you move to avoid it, I bet you would feel like turning around and kicking his head.
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Slydragon
Fuck that guy, had you been driving with your family and all of a sudden he comes toward you and you move to avoid it, I bet you would feel like turning around and kicking his head.
I believe only the police is allowed to apply a 'Distraction Blow(TM)'
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boutons_deux
"distraction blow" ? GMAFB :lol
lawyering is a scumbag profession, just a notch below Wall Streetering.
You disgust me. Far more than people I disagree with ideologically on this site. If you were ever caught in a compromised position, I'm sure you would cry and beg for the best legal representation possible, as would anyone. That lawyer is doing his fucking job.
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i got no problem with it...
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Cop was 100% in the wrong to do that. As Spurster mentioned, it hurts the case against him. It also makes people less trusting and less willing to stop running from cops in the future, and it also makes cops look bad. This entire incident was much more hurtful to law enforcement officers than it was the criminal.
Cops are held to a higher standard of conduct(and they should be given the responsibilities they are entrusted with)...Cop was 100% in the wrong.
Even if the guy had been blasting people with a sawed off shotgun, the Cop was still in the wrong.
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I can understand the cop in doing this, its just a situation thing, caught in the moment, then people do such stuff. But he shouldnt have, at such a position you cant. The suspect was surrendering, it was unnecessary.