Glenn Greenwald:Terrorists in Prison -- is there anything the Right doesn't fear?

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

It's important.


What risks?

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You've obviously never moved prisoners.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

You've obviously never moved prisoners.

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have you?

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

You've obviously never moved prisoners.

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You have?

Besides, you just said they weren't criminals.

Why so afraid?

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

You have?

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Yes.

And, it's only a PR problem for liberals...

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Yes.

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Did any escape?

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

And, it's only a PR problem for liberals...

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And the rest of the world.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Yes.

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wow....and you managed to screw that up?

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

And the rest of the world.

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Because of liberals...

Frankly, I don't hear the rest of the world whining about it anymore...now that Barack is in office.

Shut the fuck up, and Gitmo can go on serving the purpose it was built for.

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Originally Posted by clambake

wow....and you managed to screw that up?

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Nope. I just know the risks.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Because of liberals...

Frankly, I don't hear the rest of the world whining about it anymore...now that Barack is in office.

Shut the fuck up, and Gitmo can go on serving the purpose it was built for.

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My, you're acting butch today.

Nah, it's better to close it and remove the blight on American history.

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Originally Posted by clambake

they've been transported before. do you think they turned into wesley snipes?..................you did say they are non-criminal defendents.

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Tommy Lee Jones would hunt them down

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Nope. I just know the risks.

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Did any escape?

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Nope. I just know the risks.

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why don't you just share your knowledge to the "prisoner transportation society"?

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Originally Posted by clambake

why don't you just share your knowledge to the "prisoner transportation society"?

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Sorry, this isn't a class.

Suffice it to say, the facilities at Guantanamo are uniquely designed to handle the people there and there isn't a facility, in the United States, capable of handling them. They have different requirements -- not the least of which is that they be segregated from the rest of the population.

Can you name a facility, in the states, that has the room for them?

Some of these people have a continuing desire to murder Americans...do you think they'll care if it's another prisoner?

Then, you have to consider the inherent risks in removing them from a secure environment, putting them in any kind of vehicle for transport, moving them, and arriving safely.

There's no reason to move them.

Didn't a court rule, just today, that Obama could keep them detained for as long as he wanted without a trial?

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Sorry, this isn't a class.

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yeah....because you didn't teach anyone anything.

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Suffice it to say, the facilities at Guantanamo are uniquely designed to handle the people there and there isn't a facility, in the United States, capable of handling them. They have different requirements -- not the least of which is that they be segregated from the rest of the population.

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big deal. is prison segregation a new concept for you?

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Can you name a facility, in the states, that has the room for them?

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they're called prisons.

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Some of these people have a continuing desire to murder Americans...do you think they'll care if it's another prisoner?

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:lol sounds like they'll fit right in.

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Then, you have to consider the inherent risks in removing them from a secure environment, putting them in any kind of vehicle for transport, moving them, and arriving safely.

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you mean they'll just have to do it again.

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There's no reason to move them.

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sure there is.

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Didn't a court rule, just today, that Obama could keep them detained for as long as he wanted without a trial?

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don't know. so what.

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Originally Posted by clambake

yeah....because you didn't teach anyone anything.

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Ooooh my, nice comeback.

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Originally Posted by clambake

big deal. is prison segregation a new concept for you?

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No, but apparently it is to you. I don't think we have any prisons that now have the facilities to segregate violent offenders, non-violent offenders, and non-criminal terrorists that want to kill everyone else.

You're suggesting moving the violent offenders back into the general population where, they too, will create problems.

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Originally Posted by clambake

they're called prisons.

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And the ones we have are already overcrowded.

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Originally Posted by clambake

:lol sounds like they'll fit right in.


you mean they'll just have to do it again.


sure there is.


don't know. so what.

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No reason to move them. It doesn't matter whose ass it chaps. I don't see any other country standing in line to take them either.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

No, but apparently it is to you. I don't think we have any prisons that now have the facilities to segregate violent offenders, non-violent offenders, and non-criminal terrorists that want to kill everyone else.

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you're not big on innovation, are you?

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You're suggesting moving the violent offenders back into the general population where, they too, will create problems.

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i didn't suggest that. but life sucks for prisoners.

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And the ones we have are already overcrowded.

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never stopped us before.

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No reason to move them. It doesn't matter whose ass it chaps. I don't see any other country standing in line to take them either.

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you want somebody else to clean up our mess?

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Originally Posted by clambake

you're not big on innovation, are you?

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Gitmo is innovative enough.

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Originally Posted by clambake

i didn't suggest that. but life sucks for prisoners.

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I thought you were concerned about civil rights.

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Originally Posted by clambake

never stopped us before.

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You're an idiot.

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Originally Posted by clambake

you want somebody else to clean up our mess?

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Then everyone needs to shut the fuck up and leave them where they belong, at Gitmo.

I don't know why we're arguing over this. The Democrats, in Congress, have made it pretty clear they're not going to allow the detainees to be shipped to the States.

Obama is already starting to make noise about his decision to close Gitmo was a bit "hasty," is the term I think Gibbs used today.

So, y'all just start bitching at Barack, okay? It's his detention camp now.

it's an ugly face thats been planted on the united states.

why do you hate your country?

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Originally Posted by clambake

it's an ugly face thats been planted on the united states.

why do you hate your country?

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So is Joe Biden but, you don't hear me trying to have him moved to another country, do you?

Why do you hate our country?

What's wrong with Gitmo?

1 in 7 Freed Detainees Rejoins Fight

http://www.nytimes.com/

BFD, as if a couple 100 more would increase greatly the 1000s of terrorists created by dubya/dickhead/rummy.
As if any of these unconvicted, evidence-free terrorists would ever kill a non-military American.

Can we assume the military knows how to defend themselves against combattants?
and how to identify that 1 in 7?

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Suffice it to say, the facilities at Guantanamo are uniquely designed to handle the people there and there isn't a facility, in the United States, capable of handling them. They have different requirements -- not the least of which is that they be segregated from the rest of the population.

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Easily done.

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Can you name a facility, in the states, that has the room for them?

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Who says they all need to be in one place? I'm sure the Leavenworth detention center has a few open cells.

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Some of these people have a continuing desire to murder Americans...do you think they'll care if it's another prisoner?

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You just said they would be segregated.

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Then, you have to consider the inherent risks in removing them from a secure environment, putting them in any kind of vehicle for transport, moving them, and arriving safely.

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How many of your prisoners escaped?

So they weren't real sources of intel and the cost incurred in imprisoning them and torturing them has been great for the state. Should've just put a bullet in their dome on the battlefield and walked away.