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Re: Glenn Greenwald:Terrorists in Prison -- is there anything the Right doesn't fear?
It's all moot. The Senate voted 90-6 that the terrorists belong at Gitmo. When it gets down to the nut-cutting, their rhetoric is empty.
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Re: Glenn Greenwald:Terrorists in Prison -- is there anything the Right doesn't fear?
When in doubt, don't admit a mistake.
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Re: Glenn Greenwald:Terrorists in Prison -- is there anything the Right doesn't fear?
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Originally Posted by
Marcus Bryant
When in doubt, don't admit a mistake.
The mistake was ever suggesting Gitmo wasn't the right place for those scumbags.
Now, we have the Defense Department withholding a report because it doesn't follow the President's narrative...
Question: What are the odds of an unlawful combatant returning to terrorism once he is released from Gitmo?
Answer: 1 in 7. The one strike your’re out rule for terrorism works for me.
Question: Why is the report on this being held up?
Answer: The pentagon does not want to piss off The President, the New York Times reported. President Obama does not want the facts to get in the way of his opinion.
I suspect the recidivism is higher...we've only recaptured (or killed) 1 in 7.
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Re: Glenn Greenwald:Terrorists in Prison -- is there anything the Right doesn't fear?
Maybe they weren't threats to begin with, as that 1 in 7 stat would seem to attest.
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Re: Glenn Greenwald:Terrorists in Prison -- is there anything the Right doesn't fear?
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Originally Posted by
Marcus Bryant
Maybe they weren't threats to begin with, as that 1 in 7 stat would seem to attest.
Where are the other six?
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Re: Glenn Greenwald:Terrorists in Prison -- is there anything the Right doesn't fear?
Probably in a dark place.
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Re: Glenn Greenwald:Terrorists in Prison -- is there anything the Right doesn't fear?
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Yonivore
Guantanamo Bay is a multi-million dollar facility built especially for housing the people in it.
What's wrong with keeping them there?
I mean, if he's not going to release them and -- thankfully -- it appears that now he's not; what's the point in even discussing moving them? Is our lease up or something?
Maybe the fact that it kills our credibility in the rest of the world. Or the laughable arguments that because it's not located in the US, that US law doesn't apply to the prisoners there. Or any other number of things.
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Re: Glenn Greenwald:Terrorists in Prison -- is there anything the Right doesn't fear?
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Yonivore
Sorry, this isn't a class.
Suffice it to say, the facilities at Guantanamo are uniquely designed to handle the people there and there isn't a facility, in the United States, capable of handling them. They have different requirements -- not the least of which is that they be segregated from the rest of the population.
Can you name a facility, in the states, that has the room for them?
Some of these people have a continuing desire to murder Americans...do you think they'll care if it's another prisoner?
Then, you have to consider the inherent risks in removing them from a secure environment, putting them in any kind of vehicle for transport, moving them, and arriving safely.
There's no reason to move them.
Didn't a court rule, just today, that Obama could keep them detained for as long as he wanted without a trial?
Do prisoners never kill each other?
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Re: Glenn Greenwald:Terrorists in Prison -- is there anything the Right doesn't fear?
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LnGrrrR
Do prisoners never kill each other?
Again, I don't see the problem with continuing to use Gitmo.
It's a facility specifically designed to house those in it.
Frankly, it seems to me the fake outrage has been about our treatment of detainees at Gitmo, not the facility itself. So, how, exactly, will moving them to the USA change this?
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LnGrrrR
Do prisoners never kill each other?
Yes, just like in any other prison!
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Re: Glenn Greenwald:Terrorists in Prison -- is there anything the Right doesn't fear?
Yoni -- you never answered the question:
How many of your prisoners escaped?
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Re: Glenn Greenwald:Terrorists in Prison -- is there anything the Right doesn't fear?
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ChumpDumper
Yoni -- you never answered the question:
How many of your prisoners escaped?
he said none of them escaped...........considering his history, it makes sense that he's only comfortable around strangers if they're shackled.
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Re: Glenn Greenwald:Terrorists in Prison -- is there anything the Right doesn't fear?
Ok, I just skimmed. If a yokel like him can safely transfer prisoners, I don't see a problem.
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Re: Glenn Greenwald:Terrorists in Prison -- is there anything the Right doesn't fear?
The left wanted me to believe that bush went into Iraq, because Saddam tried to kill bush senior,because of big oil, because his zionist masters told him to,because he was a stupid cowboy wanting to kill more innocent little brown people, I'm even supposed to believe bush blew up the twin towers himself.Basically because he's an idiotic, immature,greedy, racist asshole...Okay let's look into it what do you got.
On the other hand I'm supposed to believe that Obama is intelligent....I'm supposed to focus my attention on the minutea of legalize.I"m supposed to buy into the canard that Obama gives a rats ass about what a bunch of dead old white men wrote 200 years ago.I'm supposed to ignore here is man who grew up in the radical muslim enviorment of indonesia, who got into college by the weight of a letter written by one of malcom X.s lawyers who was intimate with rashid khalidi a spokesman for the PLO, who's personal friend and political bedmate is Bill Ayers a self confessed and unrepentent terrorist, who for 20 years attended a self titled "church" and basked in the racist, and anti semetic hate of the rev. wright.a church that had many moslem members despite the fact one of the tenets of Islam is they don't worship in other religons temples.I'm supposed to ignore all that and buy into the canard that Obama is interested in the Constitution, and not ask who does this guys sympathys really lie with? who did the democrats elect.How come he got so much money from bankers and wall street when he was running, Yes I'm supposed to buy the red herring and not ask the more pointed question, I'm supposed to allow the left to frame the debate about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, and not frame the debate in terms of how do we get active to remove this cretin from office.
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I'm supposed to focus my attention on the minutea of legalize.
:lmao
From what chain email was this lifted?
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Believe the conspiracy theories that make the other guy look bad, but not the ones that make my guy look bad!!!111 Or I'll pout.
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Re: Glenn Greenwald:Terrorists in Prison -- is there anything the Right doesn't fear?
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Marcus Bryant
Believe the conspiracy theories that make the other guy look bad, but not the ones that make my guy look bad!!!111 Or I'll pout.
same guys as far as I can see.
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Re: Glenn Greenwald:Terrorists in Prison -- is there anything the Right doesn't fear?
Did you read what you just pasted?
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ChumpDumper
Did you read what you just pasted?
Yeah I don't think either one of them was motivated by anything aluturistic, and I wouldn't put anything past either one of them.I think both of them are using the Constitution as a political football and though the game may seem interesting it is just a game. Isn't it about time we stop it.
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hope4dopes
Isn't it about time we stop it.
you already wasted 8 years.
you didn't seem too bothered.
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Re: Glenn Greenwald:Terrorists in Prison -- is there anything the Right doesn't fear?
I didn't know instant tea was illegal.
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Re: Glenn Greenwald:Terrorists in Prison -- is there anything the Right doesn't fear?
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clambake
you already wasted 8 years.
you didn't seem too bothered.
I didn't vote the dolt.
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Re: Glenn Greenwald:Terrorists in Prison -- is there anything the Right doesn't fear?
Anything that yoni is for I'm against. In all honesty these terror dudes wouldn't do so well with the general population in prsion. i say we let them loose in prison so they can deal with American justice.. I'd give them a week.
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Re: Glenn Greenwald:Terrorists in Prison -- is there anything the Right doesn't fear?
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ChumpDumper
I didn't know instant tea was illegal.
I'm not a republican, and guess what you'd be amazed at how many democrats went to those tea parties and guess what else there's another one on the 4 of july so everybody get out there and get active.