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New David Ray Griffin Book: Osama bin Laden, Dead or Alive?
New David Ray Griffin Book: Osama bin Laden, Dead or Alive?
The US’s political discourse and foreign policy in recent years has been based on the assumption that Osama bin Laden is still alive. George W. Bush promised as president that he would get Osama bin Laden “dead or alive” and has been widely criticized for failing to do so. The US’s present military escalation in Afghanistan is said to be necessary to “get Osama bin Laden.” The news media regularly announce the appearance of new “messages from bin Laden.” But what if Osama bin Laden died in December 2001—which is the last time a message to or from him was intercepted?
In this book, David Ray Griffin examines the evidence for the claim—made by everyone from former CIA agent Robert Baer to Oliver North—that bin Laden is surely no longer with us. He analyzes the purported messages from bin Laden and finds that, as many have suspected, they do not provide evidence of bin Laden’s existence after 2001. This leads naturally to the question: if Osama bin Laden did indeed die in 2001, how and why have dozens of “messages from bin Laden” appeared since then?
Griffin’s meticulous analysis supports above all one simple and urgent conclusion: if Osama bin Laden is dead, the US should not be using its troops and treasure to hunt him down.
David Ray Griffin has published 35 books on philosophy, religion, and politics. His most recent book, The New Pearl Harbor Revisited, was a Publishers Weekly “Pick of the Week” in 2008.
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Re: New David Ray Griffin Book: Osama bin Laden, Dead or Alive?
I think Bin Laden died many years ago. He asked to be killed and his body to be disposed of so that nobody will ever find it that way he can continue live in death bigger than he could ever live in life.
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jack, either way he's livin large. he played bush for a sucker....and won.
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Re: New David Ray Griffin Book: Osama bin Laden, Dead or Alive?
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clambake
jack, either way he's livin large. he played bush for a sucker....and won.
:lmao Please tell us how Obama played Bush for a sucker.This should be interesting.
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if he's dead....he died from laughter.
he got bush to lie his way into iraq, devide the country, and ignore the taliban....and the bonus of watching our financial system crumble under W's feet.
bush was a sucker.
by the way......his name is osama......not obama.
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clambake
if he's dead....he died from laughter.
he got bush to lie his way into iraq, devide the country, and ignore the taliban....and the bonus of watching our financial system crumble under W's feet.
bush was a sucker.
by the way......his name is osama......not obama.
If he's dead, he's been dead far too long to have ever witnessed any of this...
I think he's been dead since November 2001. But, that's just me...and, I've been contradicted on this by the Bush administration, the CIA, and numerous other entities...
But, I've never been contradicted on this by any live appearance by Osama bin Laden since we bombed the fuck out of Tora Bora in November of 2001. Personally, I think he's greasing the very tiny space between two boulders in a collapsed cave on one of those mountainsides.
When they ran out of stock video footage of him wandering the Afghanistan hills, they started sending audio. When they ran out of that, they recycled audio. Now, every now and then, we get more audio...that is promptly certified to be authentic Osama bin Laden words.
If that fucker's alive -- and, if he was alive after November 2001, we'd of seen him in a video that proved it definitively...He was too much of an attention hound to resist the temptation. He's the Chuck Schumer of terrorism.
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Re: New David Ray Griffin Book: Osama bin Laden, Dead or Alive?
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clambake
if he's dead....he died from laughter.
he got bush to lie his way into iraq, devide the country, and ignore the taliban....and the bonus of watching our financial system crumble under W's feet.
bush was a sucker.
by the way......his name is osama......not obama.
My bad. Not interesting at all.
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Yonivore
If he's dead, he's been dead far too long to have ever witnessed any of this...
I think he's been dead since November 2001. But, that's just me...and, I've been contradicted on this by the Bush administration, the CIA, and numerous other entities...
But, I've never been contradicted on this by any live appearance by Osama bin Laden since we bombed the fuck out of Tora Bora in November of 2001. Personally, I think he's greasing the very tiny space between two boulders in a collapsed cave on one of those mountainsides.
When they ran out of stock video footage of him wandering the Afghanistan hills, they started sending audio. When they ran out of that, they recycled audio. Now, every now and then, we get more audio...that is promptly certified to be authentic Osama bin Laden words.
If that fucker's alive -- and, if he was alive after November 2001, we'd of seen him in a video that proved it definitively...He was too much of an attention hound to resist the temptation. He's the Chuck Schumer of terrorism.
No pics or videos of him makes no sense to me either. He has to be dead.
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Re: New David Ray Griffin Book: Osama bin Laden, Dead or Alive?
bush said he'd get him......then he said "eh, i don't really care".
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clambake
bush said he'd get him......then he said "eh, i don't really care".
Maybe he knew something.
Besides, you're taking his comment out of context...and, that's fine. He could have stated it better. He could have stated a bunch of things better.
I'm just glad his policy-making was sharper than his extemporaneous speaking skills.
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bin Laden is dead.
FACT
While the 9/11 attacks were happening, George Bush Senior and bin Laden's brother were meeting in the Whitehouse with defense contractors.
FACT
The night before John Hinckley, Jr. shot Ronald Reagan, VP George Bush had dinner with John Hinckley's brother.
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the colors have convinced me.
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Re: New David Ray Griffin Book: Osama bin Laden, Dead or Alive?
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Yonivore
Maybe he knew something.
So you're calling Bush a liar.
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ChumpDumper
So you're calling Bush a liar.
Nope.
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Re: New David Ray Griffin Book: Osama bin Laden, Dead or Alive?
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ChumpDumper
So you're calling Bush a liar.
I see the chumper got his vote in.
Where is the rest of the crew?
:wow
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Yonivore
Nope.
Of course you did.
That beeping sound is you backing up now that you realized what you did.
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Re: New David Ray Griffin Book: Osama bin Laden, Dead or Alive?
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ChumpDumper
Of course you did.
That beeping sound is you backing up now that you realized what you did.
Bush is a big fat liar, with his nose as long as a telephone wire.
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ChumpDumper
Of course you did.
That beeping sound is you backing up now that you realized what you did.
What's the lie?
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Re: New David Ray Griffin Book: Osama bin Laden, Dead or Alive?
You don't have to play dumb, yoni -- you're already there.
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Re: New David Ray Griffin Book: Osama bin Laden, Dead or Alive?
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Galileo
I see the chumper got his vote in.
Where is the rest of the crew?
:wow
Actually my vote is "Griffin is a douchevalve."
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ChumpDumper
You don't have to play dumb, yoni -- you're already there.
Seriously, what's the lie? Or, are you just into word games again...
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Yonivore
Seriously, what's the lie? Or, are you just into word games again...
He doesn't know.
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Re: New David Ray Griffin Book: Osama bin Laden, Dead or Alive?
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jack sommerset
He doesn't know.
Nah, I'm sure it's based on my stating, "Maybe he knew something," or, he inferring a lie where I said the Bush administration contradicted my belief bin Laden was dead.
I'm only guessing though. After all, who knows what lurks in the mind of ChumpDumper?
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:lol
Yoni even restates it and still can't figure out what he posted.
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Re: New David Ray Griffin Book: Osama bin Laden, Dead or Alive?
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ChumpDumper
:lol
Yoni even restates it and still can't figure out what he posted.
So, because he didn't share something he knew, much like a whole bunch of other shit a president knows and either doesn't or can't share, it's a lie?
I don't recall President Bush ever saying, definitively, he believed Osama bin Laden was dead or alive. Did he?
Or, if you're referring to the fact the Bush administration and CIA contradicted me when I stated my belief he was dead; that was based on their assessments the voices in those tapes was authentic.
Hey, either one of us could be wrong. Doesn't make us liars...it just makes us wrong.
So, where's the lie?
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ChumpDumper
:lol
Yoni even restates it and still can't figure out what he posted.
I think it's you than can't figure out what's posted.
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Yonivore
I think it's you than can't figure out what's posted.
I know exactly what you posted.
You fucked up.
It happens.
A lot.
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Fuck you Galileo. I'm not voting in your stupid poll. Give the conspiracy up, loser.
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Re: New David Ray Griffin Book: Osama bin Laden, Dead or Alive?
I must keep my hope up that the bounty is still up for grabs.
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Re: New David Ray Griffin Book: Osama bin Laden, Dead or Alive?
..where's bin laden is dead and WTC might have been a controlled demolition?
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im more of a someone gave up on looking for obl and 7 was a controlled demo, suit and tie guy
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Re: New David Ray Griffin Book: Osama bin Laden, Dead or Alive?
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Nbadan
..where's bin laden is dead and WTC might have been a controlled demolition?
The poll says WTC 7, you surely have no doubt on that one?
WTC7 - This is an Orange
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...62504721899003
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Re: New David Ray Griffin Book: Osama bin Laden, Dead or Alive?
Email sent by Rolf Lindgren in 2008 appears on www.rense.com website!
Details:
9-11 - More On What Really
Happened At The Pentagon
By Dick Eastman
5-30-9
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"Scholarship Failures of Dr. James Fetzer
Fetzer is a 9/11 Activist, not a 9/11 Scholar or Expert
by Rolf Lindgren"