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Re: President Obama to announce Supreme Court pick at 9:15am
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Originally Posted by
Wild Cobra
It should still be based on law. Not activism.
The very point of those courts is that the LAW is not clear. Therefore, the courts job is to MAKE the laws clear. They MAKE the laws clear through ruling one way or another, setting precedent.
Their decisions are based on law. They are ACTIVELY determining the law in these cases, because the LAW can not be specific enough to determine every case that might arise from its execution.
Did I explain it clearly enough?
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my Representative isn't crazy about the choice.
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Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, in a written statement, said Tuesday he's concerned Sotomayor has shown "personal bias based on ethnicity and gender."
"Judge Sotomayor will need to reassure the country that she will set aside her biases, uphold the rule of law and interpret the Constitution as written, not as she believes it should have been written," said Smith, who will have no vote in the matter, as the confirmation is a Senate matter.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...ics-advocates/
Like we really need someone with an agenda sitting on the SC...
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That was the Republibot response. He's probably never heard of her.
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ChumpDumper
That was the Republibot response. He's probably never heard of her.
I never heard of her, but she was obviously the MOST qualified person for the job.
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So who is?
Someone else you've never heard of, to be sure.
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ChumpDumper
So who is?
Someone else you've never heard of, to be sure.
No, I'm serious. I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.
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She believes in reverse discrimination.
Fireman case anyone?
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DarrinS
No, I'm serious. I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.
No, I'm serious. What the hell does that mean?
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Wild Cobra
She believes in reverse discrimination.
Fireman case anyone?
Buzzword!
But a horrible example.
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Re: President Obama to announce Supreme Court pick at 9:15am
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Originally Posted by
Wild Cobra
She believes in reverse discrimination.
Fireman case anyone?
prove it dickhead
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Re: President Obama to announce Supreme Court pick at 9:15am
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DarrinS
I never heard of her, but she was obviously the MOST qualified person for the job.
How many sitting federal appellate judges are you familiar with? She has excellent credentials. As far as politics go, Republicans weren't going to do much better. She'll be confirmed easily.
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Ivy League undergrad and law, Manhattan prosecutor, corporate litigator, appellate judge for a decade -- that's a pretty substantial CV. I mean she's no Harriet Miers, but I think she'll be able to do the job well.
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FaithInOne
I remember how eloquently C. Thomas was treated by the left
The woman making claims against Thomas was African American
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DarrinS
I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.
Do you even know the context of that statement?
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ploto
The woman making claims against Thomas was African American
and paula white was white.
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She's a judicial lightweight who's had roughly 80% of the decisions, appealed out of her court, reversed.
She thinks the court makes "policy" (or law) to achieve social justice.
She's a judicial activist in favor of racial discrimination...for the right races, that is.
She'll be confirmed...
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ploto
The woman making claims against Thomas was African American
The woman who made allegations against Justice Thomas has been well compensated for her hit job.
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Sotomayor: 'I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male'...
Okay, let's try this on someone else...
Roberts: 'I would hope that a wise white man with the richness of his experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a latina female'...
Yeah...sounds just as bad.
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Yonivore
Sotomayor: 'I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male'...
Okay, let's try this on someone else...
Roberts: 'I would hope that a wise white man with the richness of his experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a latina female'...
Yeah...sounds just as bad.
why don't you post her whole speech?
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George Gervin's Afro
why don't you post her whole speech?
In what possible context does that statement make sense?
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Yonivore
In what possible context does that statement make sense?
Why don't you post the whole speech and let others decide? Are you scared?
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George Gervin's Afro
Why don't you post the whole speech and let others decide? Are you scared?
No. Are your cut and paste skills absent? You post it.
Personally, I think the statement stands alone and, is unchanged, in any context -- particularly where a color-blind jurist should be concerned.
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George Gervin's Afro
Why don't you post the whole speech and let others decide? Are you scared?
This also presumes I'm the sole repository for the speech... Inquiring minds can go read the damn thing for themselves.
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Yonivore
This also presumes I'm the sole repository for the speech... Inquiring minds can go read the damn thing for themselves.
So if out of proper context it doesn't sound as good.
:rolleyes
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Originally Posted by
George Gervin's Afro
So if out of proper context it doesn't sound as good.
:rolleyes
It doesn't sound good in any context. Go ahead, put it back in the context of her speech about how ethnicity and sex, in her words, "...may and will make a difference in our judging."
I thought justice wore a blindfold for a reason.
According to the article from where I pulled the quote, Sotomayor was speaking about the impact of ethnicity and sex on judging and was, by way of the quote, trying to dispel a notion forwarded by both Justices Ginsberg and O'Connor "...that a wise old man and a wise old woman would reach the same conclusion when deciding cases."
So, go ahead, explain why her statement isn't racist.
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Yonivore
It doesn't sound good in any context. Go ahead, put it back in the context of her speech about how ethnicity and sex, in her words, "...may and will make a difference in our judging."
I thought justice wore a blindfold for a reason.
According to the article from where I pulled the quote, Sotomayor was speaking about the impact of ethnicity and sex on judging and was, by way of the quote, trying to dispel a notion forwarded by both Justices Ginsberg and O'Connor "...that a wise old man and a wise old woman would reach the same conclusion when deciding cases."
So, go ahead, explain why her statement isn't racist.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us...ewanted=1&_r=1
Lecture: ‘A Latina Judge’s Voice’
May 14, 2009
The following is the text of the Judge Mario G. Olmos Memorial Lecture in 2001, delivered at the University of California, Berkeley, School of Law, by appeals court judge Sonia Sotomayor. It was published in the Spring 2002 issue of Berkeley La Raza Law Journal, a symposium issue entitled "Raising the Bar: Latino and Latina Presence in the Judiciary and the Struggle for Representation," and it is reproduced here with permission from the journal.
BY the way Yoni should tell everyone that this was s speech about the Latino presence in the Judiciary. This is page 5 of the speech..
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In our private conversations, Judge Cedarbaum has pointed out to me that seminal decisions in race and sex discrimination cases have come from Supreme Courts composed exclusively of white males. I agree that this is significant but I also choose to emphasize that the people who argued those cases before the Supreme Court which changed the legal landscape ultimately were largely people of color and women. I recall that Justice Thurgood Marshall, Judge Connie Baker Motley, the first black woman appointed to the federal bench, and others of the NAACP argued Brown v. Board of Education. Similarly, Justice Ginsburg, with other women attorneys, was instrumental in advocating and convincing the Court that equality of work required equality in terms and conditions of employment.
More Politics News Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences, a possibility I abhor less or discount less than my colleague Judge Cedarbaum, our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging. Justice O'Connor has often been cited as saying that a wise old man and wise old woman will reach the same conclusion in deciding cases. I am not so sure Justice O'Connor is the author of that line since Professor Resnik attributes that line to Supreme Court Justice Coyle. I am also not so sure that I agree with the statement. First, as Professor Martha Minnow has noted, there can never be a universal definition of wise. Second, I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life.
So is she a racist?