GM lost its right to ask taxpayers for a bailout when they eliminated thousands of American jobs so they could pay Mexicans $1 an hour 23 or 24 years ago.
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GM lost its right to ask taxpayers for a bailout when they eliminated thousands of American jobs so they could pay Mexicans $1 an hour 23 or 24 years ago.
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Originally Posted by baseline bum
GM was being drained by the UAW and all the retirement benefits it had to pay out.
Good thing that the Obama administration is pushing for smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles that Americans don't want to buy.
I want to buy a more fuel effecient vehicle.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
If I've said it once I've said 6000 times...Americans are idiots. They don't know what's good for them and someone has to come along and force on them what is good for them. If Americans knew what was good for them...this country wouldn't have a massive obesity problem.
Well I was going to use the Pontiac G8 as an example of how American cars have gotten better, but then I remembered it was Australian. The Corvette is a good car even if the interior is a disaster. Hmmmmm
I was watching a documentary called Heat on frontline.org...a PBS website. Basically it was talking about the global warming epidemic and interviewing different sectors and debating the issue..
Anyway, they talked about the Partnership for a New Generation of Vehicles, the program started under the Clinton adminstration. The big 3 did end up with 70-80 mpg diesel/hybrid prototypes that were supposed to roll out in 01. That never happened of course.
They then go on to talk about how they all decided to abandon the program. In the mean time Toyota and Honda developed their own hybrid cars that were/are far superior than anything the big 3 have come out with. The interview with the GM executive that they interview is hilarious.
Basically she states that GM didn't bother trying to develop a hybrid because they weren't economically feasible at the time, while Toyota decided to move forward anyway and make one even if it lost money. Then the interviewer says "But now Toyota is eating your lunch"....the look on her face is priceless. But their reasoning is just ridiculous.
Like I said...I'm glad GM is going to the shitter..I'm glad Chrysler is too...and unless sales pick up Ford is going down as well maybe within the next year.
All in all it's a testament to their stupid business practices and no foresight on the part of their executives as well the greed of their corrupt and shiftless unions.
you know i was thinking about that. what about all the 18 wheelers bringing our food, building materials, silly windmills, etc going to do. will those be excluded? i'm sure you could kill a small horse with the exhaust that comes out of those in one day. if so, will the cut in emissions from these wind up cars be thrown off by the 18 wheelers?Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
kyoto treaty, anyone?
this administration takes us all for fools yet many defend them.
The US is not bound by the provisions of the Kyoto treaty.Quote:
kyoto treaty, anyone?
Even if they are excluded...which I'm pretty sure they are...how would it be thrown off by 18 wheelers? Cars emitting emissions now + 18 wheelers now = lots of carbon.....cars emitting less emissions in the future + 18 wheelers now = less carbon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas
I don't get what you're asking...unless you are saying that there will be more 18 wheelers in the future.
i know this. clinton didn't ratify it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
that's why i referenced kyoto treaty 'cause it restricted one country while others did whatever in the hell they want. it's really not that hard to parellelQuote:
Originally Posted by Duff McCartney
so.....your answer would just be "fuck it"?
Presidents don't ratify treaties.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas
:wowQuote:
Originally Posted by Duff McCartney
Wow, maybe a benevolent dictator can tell us what to drive and what to eat.
WTF
Thanks for your contribution, Generalisimo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duff McCartney
he didn't sign off on it. sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
The US is indeed a signatory to the Kyoto Treaty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas
but it's not ratified, handjob. we don't follow it. it's null. it's comparable to ass wipe at this point. now you understand what i meant, spoonfed.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Yeah sure.....making people drive fuel effecient cars and not allowing people to become obese is soooo bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
Why don't people want to drive fuel effecient cars? Cause they don't give a fuck that's why ...and why do people become so obese and stuff their faces at buffett lines? Because they don't give a fuck..and because our entire social/political/economical whatever system is set up so that A) People are allowed not to give a fuck about anything other than themselves and B) everything is set up to make it easier for them not to...don't give a fuck about your body we have buffetts on every corner...don't give a fuck about driving a fuel effecient car...we have 8 MPG SUVs for you and your obesity.
I don't think it's any surprise that SUVs became so popular in the United States and at the same time obesity has surged.
If we'd just paint everyones roofs white we wouldn't have to worry about what kind of cars we drive.
Guess what friend. I will never be driving a hybrid or little car. Never.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duff McCartney
I will own a truck jeep and a bike for the rest of my life. Does that make you angry that you and your government cannot control my life? Are you saddened that I cannot be swayed by government controlled hysteria?
It's a great idea to allow a certain group of people who rely on these American Idiots {see yourself} to gain power and exercise that power over all others :shootme
P.S. I'm on a 2800 Calorie cutting diet comprised of clean unprocessed food with a macronutrient ratio of 40P/40C/20F. :toast
No I'm not angry or sad. You don't matter. Who are you? Nobody. Just another idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by FaithInOne
I personally shouldn't give a damn about the enviornment but I do..but I really believe that humanity matters very little in the entire totality of time and space. In the ever expanding universe and the billions of years of existence of time we are but a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of anything.
So I don't really care what you drive. Personally I would never buy an american car..nor buy a truck/jeep. I do go offroading I'm not a farmer nor I do I have a small penis that I feel the need to buy a gigantic 4x4.
haha to be honest I have felt the same thing. However we are not some omnipotent observer in the sky that gets to sit back and watch everything unfold. We are the particles of dust, so we might as well work to obtain the few things that make the short time worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duff McCartney
It's the design's sense of humor that allows us to comprehend the big picture :downspin:
You're right...and one of the few things I'm doing is caring about the enviornment. And also not buying shitty cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by FaithInOne
Regardless....as I've said before I don't care what you do. In ten thousand years...hell in maybe 100 years nobody is going to care what you did nor even remember you..nor what I did or remember me. So I don't know why you would ask if it pisses me off or makes me sad. It doesn't.
The fallacy of authoritarianism is that while the putative dictator is largely correct in observing that most other people are idiots, he fails to discern what that implies about himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duff McCartney
also remember them there tire gauges.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeBoy