America's Debt Crisis

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

The majority of the costs were increases in military spending that are not chronic.

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When will they stop?

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

When will they stop?

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I'm not participating in your equivalent of the "why game" today. Get your thrills elsewhere.

So you have no idea when the elevated military spending will stop.

It's chronic.

No shit.

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Originally Posted by Extra Stout

It appears to me that the primary reason AHF does not know the details of the plan to pay for universal health care is because there is no plan. Sure, there is a plan to institute a tremendously expensive national health insurance program... but none to raise the funds to pay for it.

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That's my point. No one knows for sure what the details are so to attack something that doesn't exist is .. you tell me

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

That's my point. No one knows for sure what the details are so to attack something that doesn't exist is .. you tell me

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Because it's going to cost a shit ton we can't afford already.

So shut up and let the insurance companies continue to run it all for us GGA: this is *the best of all possible worlds*.

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

That's my point. No one knows for sure what the details are so to attack something that doesn't exist is .. you tell me

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That's the point. the reason there are no details is because the government has no freaking idea how to pay for it. The reason they have no freaking idea is because the money isn't there. It will never be there. They can't pay for it. There will never be a detailed plan laid out. They're not going to stand up and say, "We're going to spend a whole bunch of money as fast as we can on cool stuff for our constituents before our creditors figure out that we're insolvent and stop lending to us."

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

When will they stop?

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Would you stop being such a sissy of a lemming?

http://src.senate.gov/public/_files/...2934_Large.jpg

Military spending is not the problem. Not even close. I would say it's about right. 4% isn't much of the budget for something you find in the constitution. We need to cut social spending.

So when will the elevated military spending stop?

Here's an interesting report:

The State of the Economy
before the
Committee on the Budget
U.S. House of Representatives
May 21, 2009

Please notice that initial unemployment claims were on the rise long before President Bush was elected, yet everything is always his fault according to you lemmings. Remember the crying about how bad the economy was? Well, initial unemployment claims were declining, and democrats couldn't have that. The stirred the economic pot with deception, and the fear cause the economy to fall:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...2to2009mod.jpg

Now here, if you notice, the authorized bailout by President Bush still kept us below a 5% deficit. Now look at President Obama's projections, and the updated projections. How much worse will the projections get as we enter into inflation:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...1965to2019.jpg

This one is real disturbing:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...5to2019mod.jpg

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

So when will the elevated military spending stop?

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I told you, I'm not playing your childish game today.

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

I told you, I'm not playing your childish game today.

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I asked you a simple question.

You said the increase in military spending is not chronic.

It has gone on for seven years now and you yourself can't say when it will stop.

No game. You simply don't know what you are talking about.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

I asked you a simple question.

You said the increase in military spending is not chronic.

It has gone on for seven years now and you yourself can't say when it will stop.

No game. You simply don't know what you are talking about.

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When will you stop?

You know that I haven't a clue when the increase to 4% of GDP will stop. I hope it stays there. That's why it's a childish game. You want me to keep coming up with things for you to keep asking questions on.

You have a clue what the "Why Game" is? That's how childish you get with your questions.

Go away you fucking troll.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

Because it's going to cost a shit ton we can't afford already.

So shut up and let the insurance companies continue to run it all for us GGA: this is *the best of all possible worlds*.

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The insurance companies are clearly a problem. But that doesn't make it a good idea to expand the government's role as one. Is it really so horrible to ask our government to figure out how they're going to honor the existing commitments made to medicare and social security before thinking it's a good idea to go out and start making new commitments to millions and millions of new people? Fix medicare, fix social security, balance the budget, pay off the debt and then come talk to me about providing healthcare for everyone else.

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

You know that I haven't a clue when the increase to 4% of GDP will stop. I hope it stays there.

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So now you have gone from saying it is definitely not chronic to saying you hope it is chronic.

I wonder what President Obama will do to Tax Freedom Day?

http://pajamasmedia.com/richardferna...11/freeday.jpg

The logos are two damn coincidental I think:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...litics/OCP.jpg

OCP?

Like....from RoboCop?

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Originally Posted by DarkReign

OCP?

Like....from RoboCop?

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Yep, Omni Consumer Products.

Doesn't it seem like Detroit is becoming Delta City?

Delta City was a supposed utopia.

How in any way does modern day Detroit resemble Delta City?

Plus in the RoboCop movies Delta City was never actually built. RoboCop always foiled their plans.

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Originally Posted by jman3000

Delta City was a supposed utopia.

How in any way does modern day Detroit resemble Delta City?

Plus in the RoboCop movies Delta City was never actually built. RoboCop always foiled their plans.

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Delta City was no Utopia, but that was a promise, like all of Obama's broken promises.

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Originally Posted by coyotes_geek

The insurance companies are clearly a problem. But that doesn't make it a good idea to expand the government's role as one. Is it really so horrible to ask our government to figure out how they're going to honor the existing commitments made to medicare and social security before thinking it's a good idea to go out and start making new commitments to millions and millions of new people? Fix medicare, fix social security, balance the budget, pay off the debt and then come talk to me about providing healthcare for everyone else.

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One step at a time. Fine for those who can afford it. Everybody else can just eat **** and die, I guess. It takes whatever it takes.

*Libertarianism* is hardcore. I wonder if America is tough enough for it.

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

Delta City was no Utopia, but that was a promise, like all of Obama's broken promises.

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You mean all of these?

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vs. these?

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I'd think you'd be happy he was breaking promises. He's such a liberal that surely a broken promise equals a bad policy not put into place.

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...2to2009mod.jpg

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Uhm... that chart shows the rise of unemployment occuring AFTER 2000. Assuming the large tick marks are 5 year intervals, and the last largest tick mark was 1997, then you have three more tick marks before the red line. 98, 99, 00.