Unemployment poses danger for Obama

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

I don't see anything wrong with a group of workers banding together to exploit a company.

Granted, I don't know all the legalities of unions, but can't businesses hire scabs if the union guys walk?

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I guess there is nothing wrong with it... but then they shouldn't cry like bitches when they get fired and somebody who is willing to work for that price gets hired.

I think scabs are really really taboo up north, but I'm not sure.

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

I'm in middle management at my company. I also know several other folks in mid to high management at various companies here in Dallas (friends, family, etc.). It's more word of mouth than anything, but it's happening. Sorry I don't have a press release from Robert Gibbs to verify this is happening.



When the airline companies went into bankruptcy several years ago, did everyone they employ end up out on the street? Nope, they reworked their contracts, re-worked their debt, and moved on.

Of course you're so locked into your political talking points the only way a company like GM or Chrysler can survive is to have the government prop them up. And spare me the condescension, everyone can see what happened in Detroit was to the benefit of the UAW, which contributed significantly to Team Obama. Don't be so fucking naive.




It's already picking winners and losers. It made senior debtholders at GM and Chrysler the losers, while making the unions the winners. Fuck, wake up. It's in the damn papers. I'm sorry, I guess you have your head too far up Obama's ass to read a fucking newspaper.



Unemployment won't race back down. It might slowly trickle back down. If you can prove it's because of any Obama policy, I will give him credit. But to pretend the stimulus package is somehow the end all cure all is hilarious. But I expect that from Obama's sheeple.




Yep, feel pretty good about that actually. Are you capable of having an intelligent discussion without labeling anyone who criticizes Obama some pissed off conservative? That shit gets old in a hurry, and shows you aren't capable of holding an intelligent conversation. I'd have to say you're the one lacking intellectual integrity.

It's funny that you challenge my intellectual integrity. I don't see you questioning Obama's bullshit statistics about jobs 'saved or created'. Talk about intellectual dishonesty, but you Obamaniacs lap it up. It's sad to watch really.

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You nor I know the long term effects of the bailout. So why don't you stop talking like you know the end result? I choose to wait a bit see what happens before I rush off and blame Obama for everything unlike you. Blame Obama for the negative and give him no credit for the positive.. I got it,but,but,but you want an intellectual conversation...

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

Did you see Obama coming?

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no, I thought for a long while that Hilary would be our next pres

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Finally provide relief to small businesses and families. The public health insurance plan will drive costs down across the board, helping everyone who is struggling in this economy.

Give Americans a choice. So many Americans don't like their private insurance—or don't have it at all. With this plan, they'd be able to choose a plan that's not run by insurance companies. But if they're happy with their current coverage, they can keep it.

Make universal health care a reality. The public health insurance option will be available to everyone, regardless of job status or pre-existing conditions.

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This was just sent to me in email blast...

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Originally Posted by jman3000

Considering I wasn't old enough to vote during the 2000 election I don't remember that. I just remember I wanted him to win because he was from Texas. That's about as far as that went.

I know Bush the youngest has been criticized by his own party. Did Bush 43 have that same problem coming up?

I'd much rather have a fiscal conservative in the WH than Obama, but a lot of the names they're throwing around aren't going to cut it.

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The problem with the Bush's is they are moderate on the economy and extreme on war.

It should be the other way around.

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Originally Posted by jman3000

This is gonna sound retarded, but I think Bush is actually a pretty good choice for them... especially if he could somehow find a way to change his last name. His view points on things are more moderate and easier to stomach.

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you could be right, but I think keeping his name still helps him more than hurts. He would just have to show that he is more like his dad rather than his idiot brother.

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Originally Posted by Blake

you could be right, but I think keeping his name still helps him more than hurts. He would just have to show that he is more like his dad rather than his idiot brother.

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I would have problems with that too. I hope he resembles neither and loses.

I'm hoping hard the Bush/Clinton dynastic alternation gets broken, just on the principle of the thing. It's not supposed to go Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton-Bush.

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Originally Posted by jman3000

I'd much rather have a fiscal conservative in the WH than Obama, but a lot of the names they're throwing around aren't going to cut it.

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A fiscal what?

Doesn't exist.

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Originally Posted by jman3000

I have no problem voting for a moderate Republican come 2012.

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Well maybe John McCain will get the nomination.

That's why it's hard to vote for conservatives.

I'd rather have a social liberal / fiscal liberal in office than a social conservative / fiscal liberal in office.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

I would have problems with that too. I hope he resembles neither and loses.

I'm hoping hard the Bush/Clinton dynastic alternation gets broken, just on the principle of the thing. It's not supposed to go Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton-Bush.

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absolutely +1

just trying to play strategy coach for the repubs

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Originally Posted by Blake

absolutely +1

just trying to play strategy coach for the repubs

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That's mighty generous of you, but they sure do need one. Somebody playing coach on a bulletin board might actually be better than the guy they're paying to do it now.

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Well, as unemployment continues to rise, they will probably need more people to process unemployment benefits. So, this is resulting in the creation of "new" jobs.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

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Oh Dear Lord, No.

:lol @ Michael Steele. Watching him act all hip and cool is literally painful. I couldn't even watch the entire video of him giving his "crooked/backwards Republican hat" routine to a bunch of high schoolers.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

That's mighty generous of you, but they sure do need one. Somebody playing coach on a bulletin board might actually be better than the guy they're paying to do it now.

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they're paying somebody for that?

If they are paying him $75k, I am going to go jack sommerset up in here.

RNC is a private organization. They can choose to waste money on ridiculously entertaining chairmen if they want to.

By entertaining I meant depressing.

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Originally Posted by Blake

they're paying somebody for that?

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A lot of somebodies, in fact.

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Originally Posted by jman3000

RNC is a private organization. They can choose to waste money on ridiculously entertaining chairmen if they want to.

By entertaining I meant depressing.

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yeah
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i hear ya, yo.

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

I don't see anything wrong with a group of workers banding together to exploit a company.

Granted, I don't know all the legalities of unions, but can't businesses hire scabs if the union guys walk?

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I believe the rule is that if a union goes on strike, they are protected by the government for three months, after which the company has the right to fire them all and replace them with whoever they want.

The company I intern with almost had a strike about eight months back, and it was a very eye opening experience to see how it all played out. Long story short, I've lost a lot of respect for unions and find them, atleast in their present form, to be pretty archaic.

I see $317,000 out there, but have not verified. Mr. Steele's predecessor made 1/3 as much.

This old thing?

(Unemployment poses danger to Obama. The RNC does not.)

Another "God, I hope things get worse" thread from the America-hating opposition.