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Wow... You really don't mess around with peoples money in this country apparently...
A little overboard IMO, but he didn't steal all my money...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_madoff_scandalQuote:
Bernard Madoff has been sentenced to the maximum 150 years in prison for his multibillion-dollar fraud scheme. U.S. District Judge Denny Chin handed down the sentence in New York on Monday.
Defense attorneys had sought 12 years, while prosecutors wanted the maximum. The federal probation department had recommended 50 years. Chin called the fraud "staggering" and noted that it spanned more than 20 years. He says "the breach of trust was massive."
The 71-year-old former Nasdaq chairman pleaded guilty to securities fraud and other charges in March and has been jailed since.
Hopefully Stanford gets the same.
Good. See ya Bernie.
Wow. just a half hour ago, it wasn't decided yet. Very new info. Thanx.
I hope the mo-fo never gets out. He severely damaged so many peoples livelihood.
Sad thing is he'll probably get special attention in prison because of his age and his celebrity.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/06/29/news...ion=2009062909Quote:
A federal judge sentenced Bernard Madoff, the convicted mastermind of the largest and most sweeping Ponzi scheme ever, to the maximum sentence of 150 years in federal court Monday.
Judge Denny Chin of U.S. District Court in New York announced the sentence just moments after Madoff apologized to his victims.
"I live in a tormented state for all the pain and suffering I created," Madoff said. "I left a legacy of shame. It is something I will live with for the rest of my life."
Turning to face some of his victims, he addressed them directly: "Saying I'm sorry is not enough. I turn to face you. I know it will not help. I'm sorry."
Madoff said he was not asking for forgiveness and not offering any excuses for his behavior.
"How can you excuse betraying thousands of investors?" he asked. "How can you excuse deceiving hundreds of employees? How can you excuse lying to and deceiving your wife who still stands by you?"
Victims urged a judge to hand down the maximum life sentence against Bernard Madoff, the mastermind of the largest and most sweeping Ponzi scheme ever.
"We implore you to give the maximum sentence at a maximum prison for this deplorable low life," said one of the victims in court before Madoff spoke. "This is a violent crime without a tangible weapon."
Many of Madoff's investors were wiped out financially by the scam and sent letters to Judge Chin requesting he spend the rest of his life behind bars. Nine of the letter-writers were expected to speak in court on Monday.
Speaking on behalf of his wife and looking at Madoff, the victim said, "I have a marriage made in heaven. You have [a] marriage made in hell, and that's where you'll return. May God spare you no mercy."
The 150-year sentence is the maximum that federal prosecutors in New York requested, based on the number of Madoff's victims, the amount of money he stole and the extent of the damage he caused.
Judge Chin said that the Federal Department of Probation had recommended a 50-year sentence.
Madoff, who was stripped of his property in a legal action Friday, confessed on March 12 to running a massive Ponzi scheme. He pleaded guilty to 11 criminal counts, including fraud, money laundering, perjury, false filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, and other crimes.
Lawyer Ira Lee Sorkin, who represents Madoff, asked for a 12-year sentence. In a letter to the judge, Sorkin explained that his 71-year-old client "has an approximate life expectancy of 13 years" and isn't likely to outlive the requested sentence by more than a year.
Madoff orchestrated the scam by masquerading his investment firm as a legitimate business. But the business became a front for a Ponzi scheme, in which the scammer uses fresh money from unsuspecting investors to make payments to more mature investors, creating the false appearance of legitimate returns.
Madoff sent statements to victims claiming that their investments had grown several times over, but in actuality he had stolen, not invested, their money. Investigators believe that he had been running his scam since at least the 1980s until he finally ran out of money in December 2008.
In a $170 billion legal judgment against Madoff, the government announced Friday it had seized all of his property in a deal that also forces his wife to give up homes and property worth millions. The value of all the assets will eventually be used to compensate -- or partially compensate -- victims, based on how much they invested in Madoff's firm.
The Securities Investor Protection Corporation, an organization that shields investors in brokerage firms, will also pay up to $500,000 for any eligible claimant who lost money to Madoff, based on how much they put in.
Thus far, federal investigators have identified 1,341 investors in Madoff's firm, who have losses exceeding $13 billion. They're still tallying the damage. Victims have until July 2 to file a claim with U.S. Bankruptcy Court in New York.
Since March, Madoff has been incarcerated in the Metropolitan Correctional Center in lower Manhattan, a holding facility for convicts awaiting sentencing. He will probably be transferred to a medium-security federal prison, according to prison consultants.
Alan Ellis, attorney and author of the "Federal Prison Guidebook," believes that Madoff will probably get sent to Federal Correctional Institute Otisville or FCI Ray Brook, both in upstate New York, FCI Fairton in New Jersey or FCI McKean in Pennsylvania.
its sad that he'll get three squares a day and not have to worry about losing his home and everyone he screwed will.
They should let him back on the streets and grant immunity to whomever deals with him.
So, no one disagrees with the length of the sentence?
I don't.
Whether it's 150, 100, or 50... this guy is gonna die in a jail cell.
The 150 was probably reached just due to the number of cases involved. 5-10 years compounded by the number of all the people he fucked over.
150 years is longer than rapists, murderers and whatnot get most times. With all respect, robbing people, even on a scale as large as this, isn't as bad as killing and raping them IMO. 30-40 years would have been more than enough.
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Originally Posted by sam1617
If he was 25 years old and had run a 50B dollar ponzi scheme and ruined 100's of lives... you'd say it'd be okay for him to get out when he's in his 60's?
I would be more ok with it than I am with murderers and rapists being let out.Quote:
Originally Posted by jman3000
Its not like anyone will ever trust him again...
serial murders get deathQuote:
Originally Posted by sam1617
serial robbers get 150 years
That bastard!!
I was reading one of the Madoff articles, pre-sentencing, and there is some sort of cross-crime index that they use to determine sentences. A score or 43 on this index normally makes the DA seek the death penalty if available. Madoff's score was 54.
I could be wrong but I believe he entered into a plea. He essentially gives up his right to plea.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4cc
I would give him 50-60. But I would give life to all rapists and murders.Quote:
Originally Posted by sam1617
look in some countries they force the next kin or family members to carry the debt, i see no reason why the rest of his family members should also serve time in jail....
arguing about the length of the sentence is kind of beside the point in this case, due to his age. 150, 100, 50, or even 25 ... doesn't matter, they are all life sentences.
I hope that bitch makes my license plate
Life for rape is a little harsh. Maybe aggravated rape... but just plain rape I'm not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by elbamba
I know a guy who was falsely accused of a rape, and even though I condemn rapes.. the fact that it's pretty easy to falsely accuse somebody of rape, at least to me, makes life a punishment too severe.
http://wallstreetonparade.com/2016/0...ion-to-madoff/Quote:
Buried in a report released yesterday by the Government Accountability Office (GAO) was a stunning piece of news. Customers of JPMorgan Chase, the bank that Wall Street analyst Mike Mayo has preposterously called the “Lebron James of banking,” were major victims of Bernie Madoff’s Ponzi scheme – to the tune of $5.4 billion – because of negligence on the part of the bank. The report states the following:
“In 2014, DOJ [Department of Justice] assessed a $1.7 billion forfeiture – the largest penalty related to a BSA [Bank Secrecy Act] violation – against JPMorgan Chase Bank. DOJ cited the bank for its failure to detect and report the suspicious activities of Bernard Madoff. The bank failed to maintain an effective anti-money-laundering program and report suspicious transactions in 2008, which contributed to their customers losing about $5.4 billion in Bernard Madoff’s Ponzi scheme.”
whats 5.4b compensation, but no...the illuminati wouldnt want to pay it back when they control 600t wealthQuote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
the fees alone would be massive. 1% to 2% yearly adds up to serious money for the appropriately credentialled pro, from the well-feathered client.