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McDonald: Spurs get in line to woo Wallace
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/s...o_Wallace.html
The Spurs put in a call to representatives for Rasheed Wallace not long after NBA free agency opened at 11:01 on Tuesday night.
Now, the wait is on.
“There's interest, mutual interest, I would say,” Wallace's agent, Bill Strickland, said Wednesday. “I would say the Spurs have a job to do.”
Wallace, considered to be the top free-agent target for a Spurs team in desperate search for a big man, fielded similar calls from Orlando, Cleveland, Boston and elsewhere in the first few minutes of free agency.
All of the above teams, including the Spurs, can make Wallace approximately the same offer, a short-term deal starting at the mid-level exception, expected to be worth around $5.6 million.
The Spurs have long coveted the 6-foot-11 Wallace, who will turn 35 in September, as a perimeter shooting big who can stretch the floor for Tim Duncan.
With the money sure to be more or less equal, Wallace will spend the next several days, or longer, deciding where he'd most rather spend at least the next season of his life. The first day a free agent can sign a contract is July 8.
Boston is widely considered the frontrunner for Wallace's services, due in large part to a personal pitch from Celtics All-Star Kevin Garnett.
Though he is at the top of their list, the Spurs are casting a wide net in their hunt for a big fish.
According to a league source, the Spurs also put in calls to Antonio McDyess, Wallace's soon-to-be former teammate in Detroit, as well as Dallas forward Brandon Bass during the opening throes of free agency.
The Spurs are also believed to have interest in Orlando center Marcin Gortat, who is a restricted free agent. After taking on Vince Carter's pricetag in a trade last week, however, the Magic are not expected to match any substantial offer Gortat receives.
“I think we're going to be able to fill our needs,” Spurs general manger R.C. Buford said.
Elsewhere, another veteran big man — former Spurs forward Fabricio Oberto — was preparing to hit the free-agent market as well. Oberto, dealt through Milwaukee to Detroit as part of last week's Richard Jefferson deal, was waived Wednesday by the Pistons.
Once he clears waivers July 8, Oberto would be free to sign with any team. By NBA rule, he would have to wait 20 days before becoming eligible to re-sign with the Spurs.
Events in the free-agent market between now and then are likely to figure heavily on whether the Spurs make a push to bring back Oberto.
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Another hand job of an article. So Oberto may be back. Wow I couldn't see that coming.
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“There's interest, mutual interest, I would say,” Wallace's agent, Bill Strickland, said Wednesday. “I would say the Spurs have a job to do.”
I'd like to know what Rasheed's agent means when he says this.
Is he saying that the Spurs are nowhere near the top of Rasheed's list and they're going to have to woo his ass off to bring him in or what?
It can't be about the money can it? Or could it have something to do with the length of the contract?
Do you think the Spurs are going to meet with Rasheed in person or would they have already discussed everything with him by now?
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Originally Posted by
Ice009
I'd like to know what Rasheed's agent means when he says this.
Is he saying that the Spurs are nowhere near the top of Rasheed's list and they're going to have to woo his ass off to bring him in or what?
It can't be about the money can it? Or could it have something to do with the length of the contract?
Do you think the Spurs are going to meet with Rasheed in person or would they have already discussed everything with him by now?
I think his agent is saying that Rasheed is interest, but with other contenders interested in his services, Spurs will need to do their " due diligence" and make it apparent they want his services. In other words, yes more than likely he meant Spurs are going to have to " woo" him.
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Hey Rasheed, why do you want to wear yourself out in the regular season battling Shaq and Dwight in the East.. come west man!
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Ice009
I'd like to know what Rasheed's agent means when he says this.
...Or could it have something to do with the length of the contract?
I'd bet on this.
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The Spurs FO hardly ever disappoints, but come on... Land this one.
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migs21
“I think we're going to be able to fill our needs,” Spurs general manger R.C. Buford said.
What I get from that is..."Calm the fuck down, SpursTalk...I got this shit."
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Man, I was really hoping the Celtics had retired #30 with as many as they've retired, but nope.
That would have sealed the deal for us.
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Time for Duncan, TP and Manu to up the ante and tell Wallace you come here I/we can guarantee you another title and its is a hell of a lot warmer here and probably more accomidating to other racial and ethnic groups by reputation than Boston (to open a can of worms but there is a widespread perception that Boston is not a great place for minority athletes to hang out and live in between games).
Plus NO INCOME TAX!
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Rummpd
Time for Duncan, TP and Manu to up the ante and tell Wallace you come here I/we can guarantee you another title and its is a hell of a lot warmer here and probably more accomidating to other racial and ethnic groups by reputation than Boston (to open a can of worms but there is a widespread perception that Boston is not a great place for minority athletes to hang out and live in between games).
Plus NO INCOME TAX!
:rolleyes That was necessary.
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RC Buford better call John Woo...
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If he doesn't come here, I hope he goes to Boston. They aren't going to do shit. Let him have to bang through Howard and/or O'Neal to get to the Finals.
Here's a neat stat for you. In 10 of the last 11 years, the only teams to represent the west in the finals have been the Spurs or the Lakers. Want a crack at the Finals, go to one of those places. I don't think he'd want to go to LA.
We'll see. Sheed would be my first FA choice but we have options if it doesn't work out.
Here's my wish list:
1. Sheed
2. Camby (via trade)
3. McDyess
4. Birdman
5. Gortat
6. Varejao (SP?)
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sounds like the agent is hinting, it's on the Spurs to win or lose Sheed
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Originally Posted by
Rummpd
Time for Duncan, TP and Manu to up the ante and tell Wallace you come here I/we can guarantee you another title and its is a hell of a lot warmer here and probably more accomidating to other racial and ethnic groups by reputation than Boston (to open a can of worms but there is a widespread perception that Boston is not a great place for minority athletes to hang out and live in between games).
Plus NO INCOME TAX!
/1960'd
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If we get Sheed and Gortat or Mcdyess and all I can say is...........CHAMPIONSHIP!!
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Hope I'm not reading too much into it, but he makes a note about Rasheed spending the next season of his life somewhere. Couple that with what his agent said about us having work to do...
Perhaps they are looking for a deal for more than one year but SA only offered one year.
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hater
sounds like the agent is hinting, it's on the Spurs to win or lose Sheed
Yup. But the spurs can win it without him if he decides else where. We would be better off with him though
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“There's interest, mutual interest, I would say,” Wallace's agent, Bill Strickland, said Wednesday. “I would say the Spurs have a job to do.”
Yeah, that's a weird quote. To me it means that Rasheed is going elsewhere and the Spurs have a "job to do" to keep that from happening. But it could obviously have different meanings.
If Sheed opts for Boston, I'm guessing it'll be in the next day or two that he announces his intentions.
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ATRAIN
If the Spurs get Sheed or Gortat or Mcdyess I will be happy
Fixed.
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“I would say the Spurs have a job to do.”
I think he means that Sheed wants to go to the Spurs as his first choice, but not at MLE or less. The Spurs "job" is to find a way to pay > MLE for Sheed.
IMO. :)
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Originally Posted by
MarCowMar
“I would say the Spurs have a job to do.”
I think he means that Sheed wants to go to the Spurs as his first choice, but not at MLE or less. The Spurs "job" is to find a way to pay > MLE for Sheed.
IMO. :)
I think you're on the right track, but there is no way to be found for the Spurs to offer more than the MLE. To do the Gordon and CV signings the Pistons will have to renounce their Bird Rights on Sheed. A S&T for more than the MLE is then impossible.
It may be much simpler. Perhaps both teams are talking about 2yr deals and the "job" for the Spurs is to guarantee that third year.
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Cleveland, Boston, Orlando and San Antonio are all contenders with cool dudes to woo Wallace and all have the same amount of money to pay. So it comes down to one thing. The length of the contract. My bet is everyone is offering a two year contract. The first team to offer 3 years guaranteed or 4 years with the forth year partially guaranteed will get Wallace.
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Yeah, it very well may come down to that third year. With this many teams after him, that could be the difference.
Rasheed at the MLE for two years is a good buy. Three years? That increases the riskiness a lot ... but you still probably have to do it. Especially if McDyess is off the board.
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Originally Posted by
timvp
Yeah, it very well may come down to that third year. With this many teams after him, that could be the difference.
Rasheed at the MLE for two years is a good buy. Three years? That increases the riskiness a lot ... but you still probably have to do it. Especially if McDyess is off the board.
I think it's all about the next two seasons, as far as bringing another Larry O'Brien(s) to SA. And let's not forget that Jefferson's current contract ends in 2011. That would make a 3rd year to Wallace at the MLE much more palatable.
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Marcus Bryant
I think it's all about the next two seasons, as far as bringing another Larry O'Brien(s) to SA. And let's not forget that Jefferson's current contract ends in 2011. That would make a 3rd year to Wallace at the MLE much more palatable.
Don't we have a 2011 plan now? :lol
On a serious note, I'd be OK with it if that 3rd year is the deal breaker.
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We'll see up to what extent the Boston fellatio works. If he doesn't verbally agrees to join Boston by tonight, I'd say we have very good chances.
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Boston is widely considered the frontrunner for Wallace's services, due in large part to a personal pitch from Celtics All-Star Kevin Garnett.
I remember that the Spurs were considered front runners on other players and for the most part ended up on the losing side. This could now be the case for Boston. Everybody could think that he is going to the Celtics but he could pull a rabbit out of the hat and decide to sign with another team like the Spurs.
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Boston's two advantages seem to be this "personal pitch" and the fact that they are on the East Coast.
The Spurs' best hope is if TD and Pop can do a good under the radar recruiting job and Rasheed looks at the competition and starts comparing Kendrick Perkins, Big Baby and Leon Powe to Matt Bonner, Michael Finley and the Coyote.
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More intruing for me is the apparent interest for Bass, I thought after dice / sheed / gortat, they had other interests before Bass for instance Gooden.
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Originally Posted by
Brazil
More intruing for me is the apparent interest for Bass, I thought after dice / sheed / gortat, they had other interests before Bass for instance Gooden.
Bass would be dumb. We already have the same kind of guy in Blair.
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Bass sounds good but he'd end up riding the pine like Udoka. Guys on the brink of breaking out of subpar numbers never translate well in to pops system.
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Could also be that the Spurs didn't offer the full MLE the first time around, but instead something like a 12M/3y deal.
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Sheed is looking for the money. I think now he might be looking for 4 years with the 4th year partially guaranteed. I feel he might get two teams to offer 3 years. Will anybody go four?
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Regarding Gortat, perhaps they can use his ego to their advantage. "Come take our MLE over three years, start next to Duncan and then show the world why you deserve a max contract!"
All those Polish articles during the season made it sound like the Spurs and Gortat had mutual interest. I'm not too high on Gortat but I like him more than Bass . . .
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timvp
Regarding Gortat, perhaps they can use his ego to their advantage. "Come take our MLE over three years, start next to Duncan and then show the world why you deserve a max contract!"
All those Polish articles during the season made it sound like the Spurs and Gortat had mutual interest. I'm not too high on Gortat but I like him more than Bass . . .
I like Mahinmi more than Bass... and Ian basically hasn't played an entire NBA game yet...
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dbestpro
Sheed is looking for the money. I think now he might be looking for 4 years with the 4th year partially guaranteed. I feel he might get two teams to offer 3 years. Will anybody go four?
Due to the complicated Over-36 rule in the CBA, I'm pretty sure that giving Sheed a fourth year would cause the Spurs to pay even more of a tax this coming season. Not sure if Holt will sign off on that.
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migs21
“I think we're going to be able to fill our needs,” Spurs general manger R.C. Buford said.
The only part I care about.
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dbestpro
Sheed is looking for the money. I think now he might be looking for 4 years with the 4th year partially guaranteed. I feel he might get two teams to offer 3 years. Will anybody go four?
If Sheed was looking for the money, why would he say he's only looking at contenders for the LOB, and the final two teams he's looking at can only offer the MLE. He could go to a crap team and make more than Boston and SA are offering..don't get it twisted..he wants a ring...
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Spursfan092120
The only part I care about.
:tu
RC always backs his words up so i'm not worried.
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I don't see Gortat as a better option over Gooden.
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BacktoBasics
I don't see Gortat as a better option over Gooden.
It's probably a little bit of a wash. I give Gortat the edge because he can actually defend and interior defense is more of a priority now that we have another offensive option.
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I hate free agency.... all the guys on spurstalk should start sending him nude pics to "woo" him to San Antonio. It is sad Kevin Garnett is going to talk Sheed out of a title.
Duncan>Garnett
Ginoblie>Allen
Parker>Rondo
Jefferson<Pierce
Our bench>Celtics
Scalabrine.... thats all I am going to say
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Who is this guy? Did we trade for him?
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sorry for the e... drugs on the mind
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Originally Posted by
Spursfan092120
If Sheed was looking for the money, why would he say he's only looking at contenders for the LOB, and the final two teams he's looking at can only offer the MLE. He could go to a crap team and make more than Boston and SA are offering..don't get it twisted..he wants a ring...
The teams that do have money are rebuilding and don't want to touch a 36 year old Wallace. The only teams considering Wallace are contenders and all they have to offer is the MLE.
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benefactor
Who is this guy? Did we trade for him?
We got him for that GEEnoBEElee guy we drafted a few years ago.
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Summers
We got him for that GEEnoBEElee guy we drafted a few years ago.
Ahh...ok. Thanks for the clarification. :tu
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this is a fun game how about Dunkin and Parkedcar, even better Boner
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bishopospurs
I hate free agency.... all the guys on spurstalk should start sending him nude pics to "woo" him to San Antonio. It is sad Kevin Garnett is going to talk Sheed out of a title.
Duncan>Garnett
Ginoblie>Allen
Parker>Rondo
Jefferson<Pierce
Our bench>Celtics
Scalabrine.... thats all I am going to say
Yeah, Scalabrine<Bonner. Imagine how badly people would freak if the Spurs had him instead of Bonner.:lol Even if Boston signs Wallace, San Antonio has the best shot at a title as long as they sign a capable big man.
Dice, Zaza or Gortat
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scottspurs
Yeah, Scalabrine<Bonner. Imagine how badly people would freak if the Spurs had him instead of Bonner.:lol Even if Boston signs Wallace, San Antonio has the best shot at a title as long as they sign a capable big man.
Dice, Zaza or Gortat
agreed
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Here's what Wallace agento told Boston newspaper.
Almost the same he told McDonald:
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Strickland confirmed the Celtics’ contact with Wallace with a text message: “The interest is mutual.’’
Asked if Wallace, who earned $13 million with the Pistons last season, could join the Celtics as a mid-level exception, Strickland said: “We will see how things work out.’’
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketb...s_have_target/
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Spurs have work to do = We have seen/heard the Spurs first offer and Sheed wants a better offer (better terms) 3-4 year contract. IMO
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If the Spurs are truly interested and rank Sheed as the #1 FA option, I would imagine they would put in the extra effort as well. You would think Duncan would be involved also.
The Spurs are known for doing things like this.
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Agents are lawyers. They talk in code and its best to let them think they are throwing out subtle hints that people spend hours analyzing.
My head will explode from pure excitement if Spurs land Sheed.
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DPG21920
If the Spurs are truly interested and rank Sheed as the #1 FA option, I would imagine they would put in the extra effort as well. You would think Duncan would be involved also.
The Spurs are known for doing things like this.
Are they really? The only two players in recent memory I recall getting a red carpet treatment and a visit from Pop to lure them in are Finley and Damn Stoudamire.
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ElNono
Are they really? The only two players in recent memory I recall getting a red carpet treatment and a visit from Pop to lure them in are Finley and Damn Stoudamire.
Exactly. When they feel they have to go the extra mile they do. Didn't they also do it for Kidd? I can also remember reports of Maggette getting calls from Duncan and Parker.
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Aggie Hoopsfan
Bass would be dumb. We already have the same kind of guy in Blair.
And Bonner.
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Maggette did get a call from Timmy IIRC..it's a pretty safe bet that he would have been a Spur if the Warriors didn't jump in with more $$$..
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ElNono
Are they really? The only two players in recent memory I recall getting a red carpet treatment and a visit from Pop to lure them in are Finley and Damn Stoudamire.
That we know of. The Spurs do everything quietly.
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Also didn't Pop court Rasho pretty heavily?
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Summers
That we know of. The Spurs do everything quietly.
Fair enough.
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HarlemHeat37
Maggette did get a call from Timmy IIRC...
This was after Maggette turned the Spurs down.
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...But Maggette knows what changed. He went north to Oakland, for five years and $50 million, a consolation prize for the Warriors, who wanted Brand more. He took more money than he was offered in San Antonio ("Tim Duncan wished me well, and told me not to take my whippin' personally," Maggette said) to join a more nebulous situation with Golden State.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101095
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Summers
That we know of. The Spurs do everything quietly.
Exactly..I had a discussion with KSeal yesterday about this...he was saying that the Spurs weren't trying as hard as Boston to sign Rasheed...I told him that neither one of us knew shit about what SA was doing because they don't tell anyone.
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Spursfan092120
Exactly..I had a discussion with KSeal yesterday about this...he was saying that the Spurs weren't trying as hard as Boston to sign Rasheed...I told him that neither one of us knew shit about what SA was doing because they don't tell anyone.
Consider that Boston is Boston too. Even if Pop, RC and Tim were headed to Michigan and ESPN knew, they would spend much more time reporting every move that the Celtics made.
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
Are they really? The only two players in recent memory I recall getting a red carpet treatment and a visit from Pop to lure them in are Finley and Damn Stoudamire.
Pop paid Rasho a visit in his hometown just to let him know how much the Spurs wanted him. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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benefactor
Consider that Boston is Boston too. Even if Pop, RC and Tim were headed to Michigan and ESPN knew, they would spend much more time reporting every move that the Celtics made.
:tu
All you've got to do is go back and look how last year's free-agency was reported in terms of Maggette.
It's been reported that the Spurs were the front-runner's for Maggette's services pretty much all along,(until G.S.' money entered the picture) yet ESPN never mentioned it once. Instead, they had "Breaking News" across the bottom of their screen that Boston was on the verge of signing him.
I'm not jumping to any conclusions one way or the other, but if all things are equal (money and years) I'd give the edge to the Spurs. But you'd never here that if it were the case.
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Can Duncan take less $$$$ so Spurs can outbid the other teams?
I know Barkley did it in 92 to allow the Suns' FO to sign Ainge
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Duncan2177
And Bonner.
:rollin Bonner never got a rebound that he had to fight for.
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benefactor
Consider that Boston is Boston too. Even if Pop, RC and Tim were headed to Michigan and ESPN knew, they would spend much more time reporting every move that the Celtics made.
Exactly...they could care less what a small market like SA is doing...until what we're doing is during the NBA Finals, they don't even look twice.
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lefty
Can Duncan take less $$$$ so Spurs can outbid the other teams?
I know Barkley did it in 92 to allow the Suns' FO to sign Ainge
I don't believe the current CBA allows players to restructure their contracts. I might be wrong.
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Celtics are playing hard ball.. "Sign with us or else." :lol
If the wait is over that 3rd year, this may drag out for weeks, which is what I'm expecting it to.
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It is possible that the Spurs already made their pitch to Sheed while he was in Dallas. Althought this act would be illegal, it is very possible they did so. Honestly, we all know this stuff happens under the table. Bucher stated that contracts are even signed early. I wouldn't doubt if this scenario did happen...
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come on. The Spurs are smart enough not to put their eggs in one basket a la Celtics.
Let them take Sheed, I don't think he will make them much better because they already have solid bigs in Perkins, Garnett and Big Baby. With Shedd they'd be 4 solid bigs competing for minutes. I am warming up to this idea happening. That would give some chemistry problems to the Celtics.
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Gino20
It is possible that the Spurs already made their pitch to Sheed while he was in Dallas. Althought this act would be illegal, it is very possible they did so. Honestly, we all know this stuff happens under the table. Bucher stated that contracts are even signed early. I wouldn't doubt if this scenario did happen...
Umm...no, it didn't happen.
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While other teams might do business under the table I don't see the Spurs operating that way.
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Doesn't our FO know that all they have to do is take him somewhere to get enchiladas and a margarita and it's a done deal?:bang
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i think the image of the Celtics front office and its Big three taking sheed out for milkshakes and pony rides is hilarious.
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Shastafarian
I don't believe the current CBA allows players to restructure their contracts. I might be wrong.
Damn :depressed
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Look, all you can do is say Sheed, heres what we can pay, heres our starting 5 with you, we think we'd win a couple rings in the next years if you do.
If he turns it down for Boston, theres nothing you can do but move on and go after McDyess.
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Extra Stout
:rolleyes That was necessary.
Necessary or not there is truth to it. Its pretty much cliche that Boston is chock full of bigots. The scenes that we saw from the post 65 civil rights era of swarms of bigots surrounding buses of black students throwing things and screaming obscenities as they are held back by the police and national guard were not just from Birmingham and Jackson. Those scenes were in Boston as well Racism runs deep and wide around the beltway.
Furthermore in places like Meridian and Jackson there are large black populations. Boston has the third largest percentage of white people of any american metropolitan area. IOW, not only are you surrounded by people who have already judged your character, you are also alone.
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Re: McDonald: Spurs get in line to woo Wallace
Many are wary of giving "Sheed" a 3-4 year deal...I think that Taco Spitter will be coming over next summer. That will give the Spurs another young big to go along with Blair & Mahimi. It gives the young'uns 2-3 years to learn from "Fire (Sheed) and Fundamental (Timmy)".
Would that be such a bad investment, Timmy and Sheed play less minutes while mentoring the next generation of Spurs big men. The Spurs don't neccesarily have to go through lean times when Tim decides to hang 'em up.
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Re: McDonald: Spurs get in line to woo Wallace
4 years is too much..I'd definitely give him 3, and it seems like that's what he wants..
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Re: McDonald: Spurs get in line to woo Wallace
Not that Sheed is Tim Duncan, but if Duncan gets injured or sits for rest, Sheed can play that spot along side Splitter. I'm just wondering how much he has left in the tank. Does he still have a post up game or has he resigned himself to just chuckin up 3's ?
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Re: Spurs get in line to woo Wallace
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FuzzyLumpkins
Necessary or not there is truth to it. Its pretty much cliche that Boston is chock full of bigots. The scenes that we saw from the post 65 civil rights era of swarms of bigots surrounding buses of black students throwing things and screaming obscenities as they are held back by the police and national guard were not just from Birmingham and Jackson. Those scenes were in Boston as well Racism runs deep and wide around the beltway.
Furthermore in places like Meridian and Jackson there are large black populations. Boston has the third largest percentage of white people of any american metropolitan area. IOW, not only are you surrounded by people who have already judged your character, you are also alone.
Its also one of the more liberal cities in the country, so I think they've advanced from the 40 years past.
I see not, what this has to do with Rasheed and the Celtics.
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Re: McDonald: Spurs get in line to woo Wallace
if sheed is just chuckin 3s these days
might as well sign antoine walker who chucks 4s
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Re: McDonald: Spurs get in line to woo Wallace
we already have Michael Finley who chucks bricks..
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Re: McDonald: Spurs get in line to woo Wallace
I still believe Sheed has a good solid 3 years left in him. if he really thinks boston is a better fit, so be it, there's always McDyess.
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Re: Spurs get in line to woo Wallace
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Originally Posted by
FuzzyLumpkins
Necessary or not there is truth to it. Its pretty much cliche that Boston is chock full of bigots. The scenes that we saw from the post 65 civil rights era of swarms of bigots surrounding buses of black students throwing things and screaming obscenities as they are held back by the police and national guard were not just from Birmingham and Jackson. Those scenes were in Boston as well Racism runs deep and wide around the beltway.
Furthermore in places like Meridian and Jackson there are large black populations. Boston has the third largest percentage of white people of any american metropolitan area. IOW, not only are you surrounded by people who have already judged your character, you are also alone.
It's also a stereotype that everyone in the south is racist. It is what it is, a bogus generalization. There's a lot of white people in Boston, but go see how many of them hate Paul Pierce because he's black.
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Vic Petro
It's also a stereotype that everyone in the south is racist. It is what it is, a bogus generalization. There's a lot of white people in Boston, but go see how many of them hate Paul Pierce because he's black.
Facts...
Northern States are WAY more open minded than southern ones... and Southern states are also WAY more racist than the ones up north...
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Re: Spurs get in line to woo Wallace
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urunobili
Facts...
Northern States are WAY more open minded than southern ones... and Southern states are also WAY more racist than the ones up north...
Uh no, not facts.
What next, you gonna tell us your faster than most snakes?
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Re: McDonald: Spurs get in line to woo Wallace
I don't know if this exerpt has been posted, but
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League source confirmed this morning that the Celtics were trying to set up a meeting with Rasheed Wallace later today. The sit-down was said to be part of a series of meetings being set up with all of the teams interested in signing the free agent power forward/center. San Antonio and Cleveland — which introduced Shaquille O’Neal as its latest addition today — were also supposed to meet with Wallace today.
According to the source, the Celtics are willing to offer the full $5.8 million mid-level exception, but were only planning on offering the 35-year-old a two-year contract.
Wallace’s friend, Kevin Garnett, has been part of the recruiting effort, but he is not expected to be part of today’s meeting.
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Re: McDonald: Spurs get in line to woo Wallace
Offer him three years.
That would trump Boston easily.
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Re: Spurs get in line to woo Wallace
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EricB
you gonna tell us your faster than most snakes?
:wtf ????
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Re: Spurs get in line to woo Wallace
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urunobili
:wtf ????
Google Dwight Schrute, FACT, and youtube.
You'll thank me later.
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Re: McDonald: Spurs get in line to woo Wallace
I really hope we get him. I wonder what Spurs chances are of getting him.
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Re: McDonald: Spurs get in line to woo Wallace
The South is pretty racist. Boston is pretty racist. Not everyone is.
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urunobili
Facts...
Northern States are WAY more open minded than southern ones... and Southern states are also WAY more racist than the ones up north...
Look, I don't want to turn this into a discussion about race because this isn't the place for it, but let's just say there are pockets of racism all over the country, but no one city is so racist in general that it would affect the decision making of an NBA player.
There is a comfort level, sure, like when Chris Webber complained there were no soul food restaurants in Sacramento. But the hometown fans love the hometown players, whether white, black, puerto rican, laosian, eskimo or from Neptune.
Please no 3 year offer for Sheed. 2 max.
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Re: McDonald: Spurs get in line to woo Wallace
I bet Urunobili thinks everyone in Texas rides horses: FACT