According to CBS Sports, Artest says he is signing with the Lakers..
so it looks like they'll lose Ariza..
absolutely great news IMO..
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According to CBS Sports, Artest says he is signing with the Lakers..
so it looks like they'll lose Ariza..
absolutely great news IMO..
Damn.
Artest said today that he was signing with the Knicks, the Lakers, the Nuggets, and last night he was signing with Circuit City..the guy is nuts, and is having as much fun as he can. I wouldn't take anything he says seriously until he signs.
Outstanding. The Lakers just got worse by adding him. We need to vbookie how long it will be before Laker fan turns on him.
Please "Flying Spaghetti Monster" let this be true.
it doesnt say that anywhere I just looked....
So if they did sign Artest, what does that mean for Odom? Can they still re-sign him?
Wow, this might actually be true this time around. :lol.
It's according to CBS Basketball Writer Ken Berger's Twitter..he broke the news that Artest just personally told him..
Yeah it's on the top of the page.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
BREAKING NEWS One-time All-Star forward Ron Artest tells CBSSports.com senior writer Ken Berger he'll be signing with the Lakers. React!
http://www.cbssports.com/
not surprised, it started last summer
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by jaffies
Artest posted this on his twitter page last night. he has also been known to post BS on purpose to mess with his fans.
So we'll wait and see.
Thats awesome, another bad shot taker on the lakers!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now their going to lose either Ariza or Odom for sure.
He also wanted directions on how to take the bus from Orange County to LA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spursfan092120
they can still re-sign Odom (with the tax it'll be 20 mil or so), but how on earth did they sign Artest? what do they have above the MLE?Quote:
Originally Posted by Muser
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130323
ALREADY A THREAD ABOUT THIS
This is one of those "i'll believe it when i see it" things. What Artest says and what Artest does aren't always the same thing, not to mention Ron has been known to change his mind once or twice. Or 3 or 4 times. A day.
I don't know if this is good or bad for the Lakers. Assuming both Ariza and Artest would want the MLE, why take Artest over Ariza (who seems to have meshed into the Lakers system and was an important contributor this year - also he's younger than Artest, more athletic, and plays good defense). Why break up the championship team?
I call BS until an official statement is released.
No need to yell. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by iilluzioN
Duplicate threads happen all the time. And in Free Agency lots of things get posted on both the Spurs and the Basketball Central boards. If something doesn't belong it will get moved or merged or locked.
They are not taking Artest over Ariza. Ariza is walking away because he wants more than the MLE for LA.Quote:
Originally Posted by GooberNuts
lol. Only uneducated Spurs fans would think this is a good thing. Go to other teams forums and they are saying "why even have the playoffs? Just give the title to L.A. right now." If Artest becomes a Laker, its all over but the crying. Your little Richard Jefferson move is nothing compared to this.
Fish
Kobe
Artest
Gasol
Bynum
Hahahahahaha...say goodnight, Spurs fans. Banner 16 is on its way to L.A.....hahahahahaha.
I thought Odom hated coming off the bench? I thought he wants to start?
So, Ariza's out and Artest comes in?
Who starts and who comes off the bench.
I don't see either Odom or Artest being the good soldier and play nice like that.
I can't see Artest just automatically conceding to the MLE. This reeks of bullshit lol. I wouldn't care though. Artest will be more of cancer to any team he joins imo.
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Originally Posted by SteelerNation
lol Lakers
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Originally Posted by SteelerNation
lol artest chucking fadeaway airballs in Game 7 for Houston
Laker 2nd unit
Morrison
Walton
Vujacic
Holy shit!
he won't be doing so in LA with the role they'll have him in, he won't ever be the 1st or 2nd option and depending who is there he won't be the third except occasionally. He's going to help them I'm not falling for all the talk about ball stopping and what not. Spurs fans should be concerned just based on matchups and we have yet to find a big to fill our starting spot and now guys are calling for Fab who didn't help us win last season. We need to re-think and understand what we need to do to win. SPurs may have a trade in the works.Quote:
Originally Posted by z0sa
Make no mistake...Artest decides what option he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by galvatron3000
that's the point..
Ron Artest is completely unable to play the role of anything past a #1 or #2 option..he was remotely successful in Houston because they had him in a playmaking role..he isn't a guy that can be a role player, due to his mentality and shot selection..he also doesn't play good defense anymore, people will see that now that he'll be on more National TV games..
his offense doesn't scare me at all, because it just takes away shots from Kobe and Gasol..his ball-hogging also takes away from Bynum's growth..
the Lakers got a significant upgrade in offensive talent with Artest over Ariza, but they got significantly worse in chemistry and fit..
of course there's the chance that he works out and fills into line, but we've never seen that from Ron Artest..
Well, it's a risky signing.
It could be great or turn into a disaster.
Agreed, I'm leaning towards good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
Circuit City? I wonder if he knows anything about Motherboards and CPUs. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Spursfan092120
Artest does not make that big a difference, sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by galvatron3000
His defense will not cause more trouble for us than Ariza's did. Period. Ariza's length on TP is going to be sorely missed, first off, and Artest has never had great success on Manu. I'm unsure of his success on RJ but I'm guessing RJ will still get his points now that he's not the focal point of the offense.
Artest's offense will not much offset Ariza's, either. There are advantages to having a quiet, young roleplayer like Ariza compared to aging, mind-blown characters like Artest.
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Originally Posted by z0sa
How big of a ddifference do you think I'm implying?
btw Galvatron, I agree with your assessment of our team..I don't think we would beat LA either way though without some upgrades to our roster..I think everybody can agree with that, which is why everybody wants a legit starting PF/C..
The first time that James Gist has Artest in front of him on the perimeter and he blows by him and throws it down people will understand why Artest to the Lakers was a good thing.
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Originally Posted by galvatron3000
You're overreacting. We don't need to rethink anything. Get a quality big, sign someone with some or all of the MLE. They may not be mutually exclusive.Quote:
Originally Posted by galvatron3000
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Originally Posted by TonysTeam
LMAO overreact much?
overreacting how? We said the same thing, when I sayy re think I mean slow it down and make a sound decision, the kind you mentioned and the same thing I said. We do need to sign a quality big but with all the bring back Fab fans without finding a starting big first is sickening. Seems we have allowed Sheed to walk and to top it off the Lakers picked up Artest who can be a nightmare on both ends and we haven't solved our biggest problem yet, a big.Quote:
Originally Posted by z0sa
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by TonysTeam
lol I can't believe how many spurs fans are actualy happy Artest has signed with the Lakers. This isn't good news guys !
Artest will not be a headcase on the Lakers because he will be coached by Phil Jackson, who is a genius when it comes to dealing with superstars. He knows how to assemble a talented team and make sure that everyone knows their place. Artest won't be giving attitude to Jackson, if he does, he won't play. period.
This trade doesn't mean the Lakers will win a championship (bcuz they are a bunch of pussies with no attitude and no heart, they didn't even deserve this one). But they will be better cuz they get a guy who has some balls, plays with heart and isn't afraid of being physical (three things the Lakers needed DESPERETELY). So stop laughing at this trade it's a good one for the Lakers.
I still hope the Spurs win :D
where?Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Yea the Lakers were such pussies and had no heart that they won the 2009 NBA Championship.
While the SPURS who supposedly have heart and toughness lost in the 1st round to a pathetic Dallas Maverick team despite having HCA.
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Originally Posted by superfedja
:wgaf:
he hasnt signed anywhere
I like how you failed to mention he likes to brick fade away half court shots.
Yeah, OTT I know but you get the point.
I dont think this is official yet, but if it happens I agree...Jackson can keep Artest in check and this pretty much cancels out the fact that theyre losing Ariza. They'll re-sign Odom so basically its the team that just won the title-Ariza+Artest. It will be a dog fight if we land Sheed or McDyess.
Artest will likely not be a huge black hole if he comes to LA. If he does that he simply won't play. It's not like Houston where they had nobody else to handle the ball in the clutch.
In LA Ron will have a very well defined role as a 3rd/4th option at best. If he cannot accept that then he will not play, period. Given Phil's history with coaching unruly players I would be surprised if Artest acts out and plays himself off the team.
The bottom line is that Artest is a bigger, stronger, and better defender than Ariza is. If you didn't notice, Ariza got abused by both Ron Artest and Melo in the playoffs. He can't handle bulky SF's like Pierce or Lebron the way Artest can. He's also a better shooter than Ariza, a better passer, and more capable of creating for himself.
There is obviously going to be some risk, but the Lakers are not a stupid franchise. They don't have 15 rings for nothing.
well I think it makes the Lakers better. Artest is an upgrade from Ariza imo and Artest always seems to give the Spurs trouble because of his size.
lol .... they won this championship cuz of the refs (just watch the end of game 2 finals if you don't believe ... there's no way NBA referees can be that bad ... and even if they were that bad, which is impossible, why would they be bad in a way that only favors the lakers ??? just watch how many times (without ANY physical contact, i'm talking big time spacing between the defender and kobe) they've sent Kobe to the line in the last 5 minutes, and then watch how they fouled out his defender (Pietrus) and watch how they prevented Hedo from scoring ... all that in crucial moments where everybody began realizing the lakers wouldn't be able to finish off the magic in that game ... by the way, that game changed the whole series (imagine if the lakers were goin to orlando for 3 consecutives games without the 2-0 lead ... it would have crushed their patheticaly weak confidence ... if they had any to begin with)Quote:
Originally Posted by DrHouse
as for the spurs, they played with heart, but they were defeated by a better team.... the spurs were too old and too injured to defeat a young athletic dallas team
the lakers are not true champions and everybody knows it ... you're not gonna be really proud of your teamn until they play for real and win a championship without cheating (the gasol deal was clearly a cheat with undeclared money being transfered between the memphis and lakers ownerz)... but hey, that's just how the world works ...and if you seriously believe that deal was legit then I'm gonna stop talking to you cuz I don't have time to waste
Im not one of the Artest haters, but lets conclude it like that:
offense:
he may be better than Ariza in that regard, but Artest taking away shots from Kobe and Gasol is pretty bad for them...even in Houston the opponents best defense play was a shot by Artest a lot of times...so basically Ariza as a roleplayer should be better than Artest as a kind of 3rd, 4th or 5th star.
defense:
I'm not sure, if Ariza is already the better defender of them, but I like how it changes the Spurs chances...Artest bay be pretty good aainst guysl like Paul Pierce, but against Manu and Tony I prefer Artest beeing our opponent rather than Ariza
futhermore:
I'm pretty sure, Kobe and Phill will make sure, Artest doesnt go Charles Manson in LA, but who would you rather have as a locker room guy? Ariza as the quite roleplayer, that is team fist, or Artest, that hasnt proven anything other than beeing David Sterns greatest concern.
What about Odom now? If he stays, I see poblems....not caused by Artest himself, but Odom if he is the 6th man again!
overall: I think it good trade for us Spursfans...Not sure about other teams, as I like Artest on LeBron, Pierce or Carter...Now our job is to make sure, that LA won't play any of these teams in the Playoffs!
I am more afraid of them with Ariza than Artest. Artest played like crap the last 4 or five games of his series against the lakers. Kobe is still going to be shooting the ball, doesn't change much, it makes them less athletic if it does anything.
I don't think this is true. It's coming from Artest texts and he's having fun. But go ahead, dream away.
We shall see.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
If they do land Artest, than that's great!
Ron will take away looks from Kobe.. :D
Really? I must have missed it. Seems I remember something like Artest shooting 38% from the floor for the series.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrHouse
Slow the fuck down, this move isnt bad or anything for LA...but its not like Ariza was a scrub he was a huge part of their team. This pretty much just patches up the Ariza loss and keeps them at the same level that won them the title since Im sure theyll re-sign Odom. If the Spurs get Sheed or Dyess, and Manu comes back strong it will still be a dog fight between LA and SA.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonysTeam
Btw, this has always been and always be Tim Duncans team as long as he's wearing a Spurs jersey.
yeah, it's weird. This guy just loves to mess with the media.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
He said yesterday that he signed with NY.
Then he edited. What an attention whore. :lol
http://twitter.com/96TruwarierQB
http://twitter.com/Real_Ron_Artest
throw a beer at him.
Artest is just messing around IMO, because of the Ariza to Rockets rumors
Remember, he is a joker :lol
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4303679
Let me make one thing perfectly clear, as Nixon used to say . . .
Artest to the Lakers is not good news. :wow
Now that it's confirmed that he was messing around, you must feel really retarded :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by SteelerNation
I knew it..
This was 3 hours ago..
http://twitter.com/Real_Ron_Artest
Unbelievable.. :rolleyes.Quote:
Yeah, I'm signing with LA. Not the Lakers, though. The Sparks. The money's not great but they say I can get down w/ Candace Parker.
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Originally Posted by lefty
Where does it say that?
hes a ball stopper....not going to work in the lakers offense.
Steelernation = :donkey
:lmao
T. Ariza is a quality SF but R. Artest is still one of the top SF in the league, and the Lakers have definitely improved themselves with this signing.
wow Artest is one funny mofo
It's real.
http://espn.go.com/nba/
Jesus Fucking Christ. STFUQuote:
Originally Posted by TonysTeam
Oh noesQuote:
Originally Posted by rayray2k8
Now I feel like a :donkey
:lol
Lol lefty.
where does it say he's joking around?Quote:
Originally Posted by lefty
So Artest says he is going to L.A, and THAT's official ?Quote:
Originally Posted by rayray2k8
i would of much rather have Lakers keep T. Ariza instead of R. Artest. This is a definite upgrade for the Lakers. Lakers are already one of the biggest and talented team to began with. that's a pretty scary lineup, and is going to be pretty hard to score on.
D. Fisher
K. Bryant
R. Artest
P. Gasol
A. Bynum (L. Odom off the bench)
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Originally Posted by rayray2k8
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Artest says he's leaving Rockets for LA
By Marc Stein
ESPN.com
Free-agent forward Ron Artest says he's leaving the Houston Rockets to join the Los Angeles Lakers. In a text message to ESPN.com on Thursday night, Artest wrote: "I am happy to say I am goin' to L.A." ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard reports that Artest and the Lakers have reached a verbal agreement on what is believed to be a three-year contract worth an estimated $18 million.
Wednesday is the first day free agents are permitted to sign new deals. Artest's decision was first reported by CBSSports.com. The mercurial swingman was initially courted by the Cleveland Cavaliers. In his text message, Artest said that he met Thursday with Lakers owner Jerry Buss and had spoken to coach Phil Jackson about the move to Los Angeles, where Artest has been spending his offseasons.
Artest's forthcoming arrival strongly suggests that unrestricted free agent Trevor Ariza -- who played such a pivotal run in the Lakers' championship run -- is bound to leave the team. Broussard reported Wednesday that, according to sources with knowledge of the negotiations, Ariza was likely to leave the Lakers for a new team because L.A. was reluctant to sign him to a contract starting above the league's $5.6 million mid-level exception, even after Ariza's postseason success.
Ariza has been courted by numerous teams, including Cleveland, and met Thursday in Las Vegas with Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey to possibly swap spots with Artest.
No dork, they're all reporting that Artest is joining the lakers.Quote:
Originally Posted by lefty
3 years 18 million.
He has said that he would love to play for the lakers in the past.
He got his wish.
Can't wait for the playoffs. :)
"Artest SAYS................."
They are all reporting that HE SAID.....Quote:
Originally Posted by rayray2k8
Any confirmation from the Lakers themselves ?
Are you in denial? So what? let him go with L.A, it'll be more fun. XDQuote:
Originally Posted by lefty
lol @ new spurs fans shitting the bed out of desperation
I really hope he messes up the chemistryQuote:
Originally Posted by rayray2k8
artest is slowing down, getting older, a low percentage shooter, and pretty much a non factor for the rockets in the playoffs.
ariza is a younger player that can actually keep up with parker, knows the triangle, understands that he is a role player, and is getting better.
Artest shoots some of the dumbest shots in the league. I also think his defense is on the decline.
That said, Artest playing team ball makes the Lakers even better. The rest of the league has to hope that this blows up in the Lakers' face.
I'd say it's 50/50 whether a signing of Artest is regretted.
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Originally Posted by benefactor
He may feel rejuvenated in L.AQuote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Plus, KFC has handled Dennis Rodman in Chicago.
Wait........ Jordan handled Rodman in Chicago
The only real team that wanted Artest that could pay him more than the MLE was Houston.
Houston offered him only a one year deal and it pissed him off.
Outside of that, most teams left are already over cap and the most they can offer is the MLE. So with Ron's good friendship with Kobe and being Odom's childhood friend, LA is the most logical choice for Ron at the MLE. Plus he knows his rap "career" will do much better in LA and that's one of the most important things in his life.
Fish
Kobe
Artest
Pau
Bynum
Odom - off the bench
I can't wait for the season now.
LA Times.
Lakers close to deal with Artest
The move would probably end the pursuit of forward Trevor Ariza.
By Mike Bresnahan
The Lakers are close to reaching an agreement with Houston Rockets forward Ron Artest, The Times has learned.
Artest has been meeting with Lakers executives throughout the day and is expected to agree to terms later this afternoon
Artest will likely want the full mid-level exception from the Lakers, which will work out to five years and about $32 million. (The NBA will soon announce the actual cost of a mid-level contract for next season.)
Artest, who will be 30 in November, enjoys the Los Angeles lifestyle and was a presence in the courtside seats for some of the Lakers' games in the NBA Finals.
He is still a formidable defender and averaged 17.1 points last season, though he would have to take a pay cut from the $7.4 million he made last season because the Lakers don't have as much money at their disposal when it comes to other team's free agents.
The addition of Artest would basically end the Lakers' pursuit of Trevor Ariza, who met today with the Rockets.
Artest was also connected with other championship-caliber teams, including Cleveland and Orlando. He would have had to take mid-level money with both of them as well because the Cavaliers and Magic are over the salary cap.
Suddenly, re-signing Udoka makes a little bit of sense. Udoka is pretty damn horrible at everything in the NBA ... except guarding Artest. Udoka can guard Artest as well as anyone in the league.
Do you sign him for one matchup?
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
BruuuuccceeeeeQuote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Funny if his agents really negotiated a deal with the Clippers..:lol
Artest has the bulk and muscle to post up and play inside. That is where he can be more effective. Yet he spent last season shooting 3-pointers for the Rockets. If he does go to the Lakers, I doubt they would permit him to go wild shooting fade away 3-pointers.
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Originally Posted by timvp
I don't think there really is a great defense for Artest, it all depends if he is gonna carry on with his horrible shot selection, if that carries on then he's gonna shoot the Lakers out of the game himself.
But no, I wouldn't sign Udoka for 4 games a year. At the most a Horry type trade in time for the Playoffs but that's stretching it.
Disaster waiting to happen, surely. Artest and Bryant on the same team....I just can't fathom how those egos will be kept in check. Losing a nuts and bolts guy like Ariza, and getting a nutcase in Artest is bound to be problematic.
nah, get the big you need and play good team D with the hopes that some of the young guys will keep him in line well enough. Artests biggest strength against the Spurs is in the post so try to keep him out of the post and if he does get there hopefully Gist or Jefferson will handle their business, I don't think Jefferson will though so he must abuse him on the other side to make Phil take him off the floor.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp