I wonder if Kobe is going to chew out Artest the way he does all the other players on his team. That should be fun to watch.
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I wonder if Kobe is going to chew out Artest the way he does all the other players on his team. That should be fun to watch.
If true, this will either be really good news for the Spurs or really bad news. Guess we'll know at this time next year.
Personally, if I'm running the Lakers, I don't mess with what worked and bring back Ariza.
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Originally Posted by timvp
If its not broke dont fix it.....ur right.
Ariza is a great role player and Artest is a wannabe all star player. Lakers FO better know what they are doing...i hope they dont
Everybody would have loved to have Ariza back but he's asking for the $8/million year range. I don't know if he's worth that much, I don't think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Meanwhile, Ron is asking for $5.5. It seems that Ron is the better deal.
This is just nuts. They are obviously trying to build an all-star team in LA. Only positive is that Ron might take some of Kobe's shots away from him. They get better defensively and if this turns out to be true they are the clear favorites to win the 2010 NBA title. If the Celtics get Sheed the Lakers with that lineup can beat the crap out of them, however if the Spurs sign Sheed I think the Spurs have enough fire power and experience to take them down. Only probelm for the Lakers is that teams in the playoffs will play them crazy to try and unseat them. Should be an interesting NBA season if that happens and the Spurs/Celtics sign Sheed.
[quote=SteelerNation;3516048]lol. Only uneducated Spurs fans would think this is a good thing. Go to other teams forums and they are saying "why even have the playoffs? Just give the title to L.A. right now." If Artest becomes a Laker, its all over but the crying. Your little Richard Jefferson move is nothing compared to this.
Fish
Kobe
Artest
Gasol
Bynum
Hahahahahaha...say goodnight, Spurs fans. Banner 16 is on its way to L.A.....hahahahahaha.[/qu
:wgaf:Artest is a cancer on any team he joins - We'll see who's laughing after Ron-Ron detonates Laker team chemistry, and the Spurs are advancing to the finals
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"Let's get back to playing championship, soul-crushing defense"
It's a good move for LA because of the price, but I'm not worried at all..
Ron Artest is the 2nd most overrated defensive player in the NBA, only behind Kobe..watching either of those guys guard perimeter players is going to be funny as fuck..
Artest is clearly slowing down defensively, and he no longer has the mentality..he mostly gambles for steals these days..his strength defensively was physicality, which has clearly had an effect on him since the handcheck rules were applied in 2004-2005..
I don't see Artest working as a #3 or more option..he has to be in the top 2, that's just his style..it also takes shots away from Bynum, and Bynum doesn't play defense or rebound unless he's getting shots..LA already has their stars, they need role players like Ariza, and Artest can't be a role player..
I posted that on NBA forum:Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
"One additional thought, whatever happens, I respect Lakers move. You need to have some balls to change a winning team including a crazy dude like Artest.
Maybe it's the way to repeat: with Artest LA injects thrill, fear, exitation... a potential good manner to keep the team motivated and under pressure. IMO this one of the reason why teams have difficulties to repeat, they keep the same core and the group fell asleep."
Am I wrong about that ? don't you think this move will give an extra motivation to this LA team ?
I agree..."if its not broken..." doesnt really work...you have to bring in hungry guys...but I'm not sure Artest for Ariza is the thing to do...Artest for Odom, with a garantee Artest wants to be the 6th man would have sounded better
we will see...I can understand Lakers fans going crazy about it, but I personaly think, that the Lakers can be happy, if they are not worse with him, than with Ariza
That's what we thought when we got dennis rodmanQuote:
Originally Posted by SteelerNation
It's been a while since Artest has had some kind of mental breakdown/physical assualt/crime/etc. He's due for one. LA is the perfect venue for this to happen.
the people on here dismissing this signing are delusional - DELUSIONAL. This is huge.. and really bad news for the Spurs. Not only are the Spurs too little, now they are outgunned again and LA will be tougher defensively. And I dont recall who said that Sheed going to Boston wouldn't be effective -but Sheed in Boston might be even bigger than Artest in LA...IMO The Lakers were fortunate last year - first with KG going down and then Yao. a healthy KG and Boston would have repeated.. a healthy KG and Sheed next year and Boston wins -- they beat Cleveland - they beat Detroit - they beat the Lakers and they sure as hell beat the Midget Spurs....Now if the Spurs can get MCdyess...or trade Mason/bonner or even finley/bonner for a decent big - then the Spurs are back in the mix. but this Spurs team as assembled right now doesn't have a prayer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brazil
lol its day two of FA, if the spurs went with the team they have assembled they wouldn't have enough players to play in an NBA game.Quote:
Originally Posted by implacable44
Interesting the Lakers decided to go in this direction. Yes, Ron Artest is cheaper, but he's clearly 30+ and on the decline. Meanwhile, Ariza is in his prime, came off an awesome postseason, and still has an evolving game. It's definitely a gamble for the Lakers that can pay off or not.
Another plus thought that probably ran through the Lakers mind is at least this way Artest doesn't end up on another WC contender.
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Originally Posted by implacable44
OmG!!!! wE aRE FUckED!!!!11 what a joke
Yeah, just give LA the title. We all know that you can't beat LA when allstar players start working for them on the cheap. Just ask Karl Malone to show you his ring.
That's a good point I hadn't thought of. Artest on another WC team would have been Hell part II.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1Parker1
The Rockets took the Lakers to 7 games, toughest in the Playoffs for the Lakers. Most of that was due to Artest/Battier messing up Kobe's game.
No. You were basically the Houston Rockets taking a chance just like the Spurs did with Rodman. This is more like the Bulls when they stole Rodman for peanuts and what happened then? 3 peat. And everyone said the same thing people here are. "Dennis will blow up and destroy the Bulls chemistry. Dennis is a ticking timebomb. ect....Quote:
Originally Posted by Horse
Lakers have just got as close as you can to a guarantee for repeating.
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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Yeah going to be funny as fuck watching the Lakers hold up that back to back :lobt:
While you're laughing at two of the best perimeter defenders of our generation the entire world be laughing at TP, Manu, RJ backcourt trying to guard anything :lol :lol :lol
Most of that was Battier. Artest was nowhere near as effective. His best days as a defender are fading memories. His best days as a wild assed gunner are on the rise though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allanon
I don't really see how this makes the Lakers that much better. Artest is clearly the better deal, but he's a slower, older version of Ariza, albeit more physical. One of the Lakers biggest assets in the postseason was the speed and length of Ariza, especially in the closing moments with those clutch steals.
They've pretty much swapped out Ariza's speed for Artest's physicality and gotten a little older in the process. They've also replaced a willing role player with a player who's been at least the 2nd offensive option most of his career. Can Artest adjust? Maybe, maybe not, we'll see. That's the gamble. I personally don't think they've gotten that much better and the potential for him to disrupt the team chemistry is definitely there. Only time will tell though.
they have 10 players retard .. not counting splitter.. and who are they gonna get ..already in luxury tax hell..Quote:
Originally Posted by kbrury
he'll almost certainly adjust. He was really pretty calm during the series against the lakers, and really all the way through. He takes bad shots sometimes, but he's a positive force on the basketball court for his team, and he's just made the lakers stronger.
we're going to have to beat them straight up. They're going to be really talented, so are we, and we're going to have to win. obviously we're all here because we think tim tony manu and crew can do that.
it still pisses me off. 6 million a year. screw you, ron. I was starting to like you. just re-sign malone while you're at it and let him chase his ring, too.
need 12 to play a game
implacable
retard
Splitter isn't on the team.