Trumped Again By The Lakers

It is just a tad bit too early to think the sky is going to fall. As a spurs fan I realize we have done nothing but at talent and get younger, so we still have had the better off season. The Lakers, as of now, appear to be letting go of both Odom (someone will overpay for him, by overpay I mean 10 mil per) and Ariza. That is a gamble. Plus there is the injury thing still, the Lakers have been tempting fate, two runs to the Finals and Bynum is the only guy to miss real time.
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at this stage of their careers - ariza is a better perimeter defender.

and while his offensive numbers are a bit pedestrian - that's EXACTLY what the Lakers need. he let the offense come to him and made the most of his opportunities.

they replaced him a lesser defender and a guy who shoots 40% from the floor and is used to taking 12-15 shots per game.

that's not to say that it couldn't work out splendidly for LA...but this is FAR from a slam dunk in their favor.

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Originally Posted by Texas 2 Step

You must be on Crack. You just let a young athlete who is a better shooter and defender, not to mention finisher on the break walk cause you did want to give him MLE. You replaced him with an ageing wanna be who never has been lune, who is slow for a wing, cant shoot, hogs the ball and goes off the reservation almost nightly.

Your team just got worse while we have added a lottery post guy in Blair who will punish your soft front line and a wing in RJ who with Manu will give you fits when they are on the floor together.

If the Spurs manage to grab a big...Wallace or Splitter I dont think anyone who is in their right mind would say SA is not the favorite.

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Right on all fronts. It seems the ron artest kool aid is intoxicating the LA faker crowd. But we will sober them up soon and very soon.:ihit

QUOTE=Texas 2 Step;3518322]Artest is so overrated. Did you not notice how he dominates the ball, is a piss poor shooter, turnover and foul prone and his speed is below avg for a wing player. Ariza was a better fit with more upside than Artest. Hes also gonna slow dow the Lakers fast break game as hes a half court player.[/QUOTE]

You homer fans are a joke. Many on this board said Gasol was not going to help the Lakers . You were part of the crowd that said Gasol was soft and was not going to help the Lakers.

Artest > Ariza

The spurs improved more with the additions of jefferson and Blair but they were not even close to the Lakers with their weak frontline and that is still an issue. Wallace would help but not even enough against a healthy Laker team and there is a good chance the spurs don't even get Wallace. He isn't the player he once was anymore and he is the spurs top choice. Thats how thin the spurs are.

bitchfit thread

go and wait!

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Originally Posted by spurspokesman

Right on all fronts. It seems the ron artest kool aid is intoxicating the LA faker crowd. But we will sober them up soon and very soon.:ihit

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If by sober up you mean Kobe's idea of date, and by date I mean rape, yeah we will do that to Lakers. Then we will apologize and the world will move on... in time.... but we won't trust them again.

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Originally Posted by benefactor

Food for thought:

Kobe(lead player) attempted over 1700 shots in 82 games last season. Pau Gasol(lead player) attempted over 1000 in 81 games. On the other hand...Odom(significant role player) only attempted 700 shots in 78 games last season.

Ron Artest in the past three seasons...1040 in 70 games, 962 in 57 games and 1037 in 69 games.

Good luck LA.

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Originally Posted by Ghost Writer

Well, I was happy.

Until last night when I learned that the defending champion Lakers would be signing Ron Artest, the game's best perimeter defender who can also hit a shot.

The Spurs had opportunities to get the mercurial Artest via trade and/or free agency since 2001 when the Bulls offered him to San Antonio for scraps.

Homers like exstatic feared that he would go nuts like he did in Chicago, Indiana,, Sacto, and everywhere he stays for more than 1 season.

Well, I hope his performance with the undermanned Rockets showed you something.

Now the Lakers are more powerful than ever and the Spurs' offseason positioning is all for nothing.





Fvck.

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Artest and Bowen were both considered the best perimeter defenders two, maybe three years ago. At this point, they've both lost that lateral mobility. The Spurs were smart enough to recognize it. LA apparently wasn't.

I'll give you that he had a good season in Houston last year. He usually has that honeymoon season, or in the case of years when a team desperately dumps his psycho ass mid-season, a honeymoon half season. Then it comes apart.

The reason Houston advanced was that he has more balls that TMac. Unfortunately for LA, he has less brains than you.

P.S. How's that Payton for Parker looking about now? And what's Chris Whitney up to these days?

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Originally Posted by rascal

QUOTE=dc_spursfan;3518290]I will gladly take Blair and Jefferson over Ron Artest. I don't see LA beating a healthy Spurs without signing Odom. The Lakers now have no choice but to resign Odom because they can't use a MLE. Odom is the only player the spurs cant matchup with when on his game.
They have no expiring contracts worth trading for. The Spurs still need a center. However, that player does not need to be a all star and we have both a MLE and a exriring contracts.

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Even if the spurs add Wallace theLakers still have the size advantage and edge. But Wallace would it closer between the two teams.

Artest is a beast that plays on both ends of the floor. He will nuetralize Jefferson. Gasol,Bynum and Odom still pose matchup problems for the spurs. Wallace would help but theres a great chance Orlando or the Celtics land Wallace and the spurs end up with their 4'th option.

The Lakers have a great front office.

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You are adding in Odom, which I already said gives LA advantage. If LA can't resign than our bench is much better than LA.
Also, Jefferson has a lot more speed an athleticism than Finley which is important.
If the Spurs are able to find a decent big man there really is not a sized advantage.

Parker 6'2 vs Fisher 6'1
Manu 6'6 vs Kobe 6'6
Jefferson 6'7 vs Artest 6'7
Duncan 7'0 vs Gasol 7'0
????? Between 6'10-7'0 vs Bynum 7'0

The advantage on truly comes in effect if LA resigns Odom





Hou vs Mil Jefferson 25pts 4rebs, 4 ast
Mil vs Hou 16pts 5rebs, 2ast

Sac vs Nj 36pts 9reb, 3ast
NJ vs Sac 18pts 4rebs


I would not calling this neutralizing.

Bowen=Best perimeter defender even now.

[QUOTE=Ghost Writer;3518158]Well, I was happy.

Until last night when I learned that the defending champion Lakers would be signing Ron Artest, the game's best perimeter defender who can also hit a shot.

The Spurs had opportunities to get the mercurial Artest via trade and/or free agency since 2001 when the Bulls offered him to San Antonio for scraps.

Homers like exstatic feared that he would go nuts like he did in Indiana about 5 seasons ago.

Well, I hope his performance with the undermanned Rockets showed you something.

Now the Lakers are more powerful than ever and the Spurs' offseason positioning is all for nothing.




Did you watch much of the Rockets this year? What they thought they were getting was low post beast, defensive stopper Ron Artest...what they got was three point chucker, bad shot selection RonRon...and he wasn't near the defensive force he has been in years past, in fact not even the best defender on the team- that would be Shane Battier.

Does he really make the Lakers that much better on defense? I don't think so...offensively he has more to offer than Ariza, but there are only so many shots to go around. If it ain't broke don't fix it. The Lakers don't need any more stars, they need great role players who do their jobs well. That ain't exactly RonRon's style.

At best this is slightly better than a lateral move given the age differences, skill sets and what the Lakers will need out of that position. At worst, this has a chance to be a destructive poison pill and an introduction of a problem where one previously did not exist. This is not Garnett to the Celtics or Gasol to the Lakers...take a deep breath, relax and wait and see how the rest of this offseason plays out. Long way to go.

The difference is now we have a 270lb rookie that is hungry, motivated, and can rebound like a machine. Please don't tell me because he is only 6' 7" that he can't box out Gaosol's twiggy ass or even Bynum for that matter. The truth of the matter is that you Laker fans are the ones getting piss scared. Philip and Buss saw how much better the Spurs have made themselves with adding Jefferson, Blair, McClinton, and who the hell knows, maybe even Gist and Hairston. Now we have the youth and athleticism to compete with your overrated Laker team. If anything, you have made your team worse by signing Artest. Face it Laker fans, your team is running scared now because the Spurs have made all the right moves this offseason and it isn't over yet.

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Jesus Fucking Christ - the off season isnt even over and SA has already improved itself significantly while not being done...and Ghost is throwing in the towel on next season come July?

Do it already

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Originally Posted by Taking it to the Hole

270lb rookie that is hungry,

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:lol very very very hungry. Like all the time.

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Originally Posted by 21_Blessings

:lol very very very hungry. Like all the time.

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If your team is up for dinner, I would tell him to have seconds!:lol

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Originally Posted by Taking it to the Hole

The difference is now we have a 270lb rookie that is hungry, motivated, and can rebound like a machine. Please don't tell me because he is only 6' 7" that he can't box out Gaosol's twiggy ass or even Bynum for that matter. The truth of the matter is that you Laker fans are the ones getting piss scared. Philip and Buss saw how much better the Spurs have made themselves with adding Jefferson, Blair, McClinton, and who the hell knows, maybe even Gist and Hairston. Now we have the youth and athleticism to compete with your overrated Laker team. If anything, you have made your team worse by signing Artest. Face it Laker fans, your team is running scared now because the Spurs have made all the right moves this offseason and it isn't over yet.

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nobody is scared of the spurs...a rookie who didn't even get in the top 25 draft picks in the weakest draft in a long time? yeah teams should be really worried of him

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Originally Posted by Taking it to the Hole

If your team is up for dinner, I would tell him to have seconds!:lol

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With A player gasols size, maybe thirds.:lol

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Originally Posted by BenJarvusOthelloTron

:rolleyes another worried Lakers fan...god you are still the most arrogant, idiotic fans in the NBA.

Sheed didn't play on the inside much last year and shot a bunch of 3's on a crappy Pistons team. Sorry to say but Gasol is the biggest bitch in the NBA, screaming like a little girl everytime someone makes a little contact with him on the block and of course getting the call.I thought Dirk was a bitch until I saw Gasol play on a consistent basis.:flag:

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I'm only responsing to even more idiotic posts by many spurs fans on here...the only people who are acting arrogant are spurs fans making statements that gasol is soft, lakers got worse and lakers should be scared of the spurs

SERIOUSLY...THATS WHAT YOU CALL IDIOTIC

i'm new to this forum so i will just assume that ghostwriter is the reigning hyperbole champion.

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Originally Posted by Ghost Writer

Well, I was happy.

Until last night when I learned that the defending champion Lakers would be signing Ron Artest, the game's best perimeter defender who can also hit a shot.

The Spurs had opportunities to get the mercurial Artest via trade and/or free agency since 2001 when the Bulls offered him to San Antonio for scraps.

Homers like exstatic feared that he would go nuts like he did in Indiana about 5 seasons ago.

Well, I hope his performance with the undermanned Rockets showed you something.

Now the Lakers are more powerful than ever and the Spurs' offseason positioning is all for nothing.





Fvck.

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News flash...the Lakers were better than the Spurs or anyone else in the West at this point before they got Artest. Swapping basically Artest for Ariza didn't change things in that regards.

The Spurs need to worry about getting better to compete in the west with the Lakers & the rest of the West.

The Lakers signing Artest does not diminish anything the Spurs have done thus far which has been good or will do well in the future.

I, for one, was not handing the Spurs the title because they signed Jefferson or even if they sign Rasheed like so many have. If Manu & Duncan come back healthy and can play up to their levels, the Spurs will be in the mix....and anything can happen.

You can be ready to handy the 2010 crown to LA but remember there are no guarantees no matter how good it may look.