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Re: Spurs sign Marcus Haislip
what I think the spurs should do is dump George Hill and pick up Nate Robinson. The last thing I want to see is Nate on L.A.
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Re: Spurs sign Marcus Haislip
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Originally Posted by
z0sa
Good job comparing apples to oranges... None of those guys can shoot the ball whatsoever, either. If you wanted a big bruiser you wouldn't want matt Bonner (though he is quite strong downlow). This team will already have two bruisers upfront (most likely). You can bring a tall, lethal shooter off the bench, like Pop has done for years now, you create space for the less-talented bench players to work without sacrificing size. I bet most coaches would agree that's a nice option to have. Additionally, against backups Bonner would improve his rebounding.
This is obvious, but if these youngsters show Bonner up through camp, I think *POP* might rethink Bonner, because even though he is a shooter, his defensive liabilities might be his undoing. Pop might take a different approach if a young defensive ace comes along.
Then we could always sign sheed and send Bonner packing that way...(fingers crossed)
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Re: Spurs sign Marcus Haislip
The Lakers can only sign Nate Robinson to the minimum IIRC, which he won't take IMO, or get him in a trade, which probably won't happen..
he's also just an offensive player, and he has a bad attitude/temper..
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Re: Spurs sign Marcus Haislip
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
Where would you rank him in Europe KBP?
I would ranke these Euroleague power forwards all better than him
Mike Batiste
Felipe Reyes
Matjaz Smodis
Ioannis Bourousis
Ksystof Lavrinovic
Antonis Fotsis
David Andersen
Viktor Khryapa
Ersan Ilyasova
Mirsad Turkcan
Lior Eliyahu
Novicka Velickovic
Shaun Stonerook
Mirza Teletovic
Jorge Garbajosa
So I would rate him about maybe 16th best PF in Euroleague. Actually, he is also debatable with Georgios Printezis, Andre Hutson, Dimos Dikoudis, Terrence Morris, Stephane Lasme
You could probably argue for any one of them being better than him also. But I will put him above them because either he has done more in Europe than some of them or he is younger than some of them that are declining already.
Haislip is an NBA level player and is better than Bonner but Spurs fans are nuts if they think he is one of the best players in Europe.
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Re: Spurs sign Marcus Haislip
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Originally Posted by
Kill_Bill_Pana
I would ranke these Euroleague power forwards all better than him
Mike Batiste
Felipe Reyes
Matjaz Smodis
Ioannis Bourousis
Ksystof Lavrinovic
Antonis Fotsis
David Andersen
Viktor Khryapa
Ersan Ilyasova
Mirsad Turkcan
Lior Eliyahu
Novicka Velickovic
Shaun Stonerook
Mirza Teletovic
Jorge Garbajosa
So I would rate him about maybe 16th best PF in Euroleague. Actually, he is also debatable with Georgios Printezis, Andre Hutson, Dimos Dikoudis, Terrence Morris, Stephane Lasme
You could probably argue for any one of them being better than him also. But I will put him above them because either he has done more in Europe than some of them or he is younger than some of them that are declining already.
Haislip is an NBA level player and is better than Bonner but Spurs fans are nuts if they think he is one of the best players in Europe.
thats good to know. for the minimum this could really be a steal. a potential high reward and low risk move.
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Re: Spurs sign Marcus Haislip
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Originally Posted by
Kill_Bill_Pana
I would ranke these Euroleague power forwards all better than him
Mike Batiste
Felipe Reyes
Matjaz Smodis
Ioannis Bourousis
Ksystof Lavrinovic
Antonis Fotsis
David Andersen
Viktor Khryapa
Ersan Ilyasova
Mirsad Turkcan
Lior Eliyahu
Novicka Velickovic
Shaun Stonerook
Mirza Teletovic
Jorge Garbajosa
So I would rate him about maybe 16th best PF in Euroleague. Actually, he is also debatable with Georgios Printezis, Andre Hutson, Dimos Dikoudis, Terrence Morris, Stephane Lasme
You could probably argue for any one of them being better than him also. But I will put him above them because either he has done more in Europe than some of them or he is younger than some of them that are declining already.
Haislip is an NBA level player and is better than Bonner but Spurs fans are nuts if they think he is one of the best players in Europe.
hmm that bourousis guy sounds like an interesting prospect...
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Re: Spurs will sign Marcus Haislip?
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Originally Posted by
Bruno
Disagree.
If Spurs sign a bigman with their MLE (Sheed, McDyess...) and Haislip contract is guaranteed, Spurs will have 6 bigmen under contract (Duncan, MLE big, Bonner, Blair, Mahinmi and Haislip). There isn't room left for Gist.
Before the SL, odds are against Gist to make the team next year. He will need something like him being great in SL and Mahinmi being bad in SL to improve his odds.
Unless Gist proves he can guard the periemter 3's and 4's. Then, maybe he improves his %'s of making the squad.
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Originally Posted by
Mugen
hmm that bourousis guy sounds like an interesting prospect...
Bourousis' backup Printezis is replacing Haislip in Malaga and the team's Gm said that Printezis is an upgrade over Haislip. So Bourousis' backup is an upgrade over Haislip.
So this should put it in perspective for you. I ranked Haislip over Printezis because Haislip has done more than him in Euroleague but in reality actually it is true that Printezis is a much better talent and better player than Haislip is. He is just young and just starting to mature but certainly when he is 28 he should be way better than Haislip is now. This is the backup to Bourousis.
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Originally Posted by
Kill_Bill_Pana
Bourousis' backup Printezis is replacing Haislip in Malaga and the team's Gm said that Printezis is an upgrade over Haislip. So Bourousis' backup is an upgrade over Haislip.
So this should put it in perspective for you. I ranked Haislip over Printezis because Haislip has done more than him in Euroleague but in reality actually it is true that Printezis is a much better talent and better player than Haislip is. He is just young and just starting to mature but certainly when he is 28 he should be way better than Haislip is now. This is the backup to Bourousis.
i don't believe you.
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Originally Posted by
Mugen
hmm that bourousis guy sounds like an interesting prospect...
I was pretty excited when the spurs were being linked to Yiannis Bouroussis too. I could see the pre game ritual, 6'11 greek dude, a spur shaved into his back hair, gliding in on a slip and slide covered in olive oil... so sexy :lol
Seriously, a friend of mine saw him play alot and said he was really dope, but the reassuring thing the FO hasn't done anything to make this off season look bad thus far. I trust is in PopaLAbitch.
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Re: Spurs sign Marcus Haislip
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Originally Posted by
Kill_Bill_Pana
No he was not one of the best players in Europe. NBA fans are just impossible to deal with.
Then don't deal with us.
...and you say he isn't one of the best players, but he was one of the best PF's. That is a huge contradiction right there. If he's one of the best at a certain position, he should be considered one of the best players. You fail. Have fun jerking off to Bourousis and his MLE deal that was never going to happen with the Spurs.
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Bruno
Trading Mahinmi? :bang
Presti has found his "Mahinmi" with Ibaka. Ibaka has had a damn good season in Spain and could turn into the real deal.
IMO, Collison is the most likely trade target for Spurs. I can see Thunder trading him to develop younger players and to have more cap space in 2010.
Seems like Ibabka is a better prospect than Mahinmi based on his accomplishments in Europe to date.
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Re: Spurs sign Marcus Haislip
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Originally Posted by
Kill_Bill_Pana
No he was not one of the best players in Europe. NBA fans are just impossible to deal with.
Then piss off and find another forum to post on.
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Re: Spurs will sign Marcus Haislip?
Kace, I posted that sooner in the thread, I've seen him once in Barcelona.
Nice scoop Bruno !
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Brazil
This thread is another example of the strengh of this board ! The quality of the info provided by some of the posters here is just amazing.
Regarding Haislip, I saw him play once one year ago in Spain and I hope he improved his game a lot. I didn't look specificaly at him but I remember an athletic big with a just decent shooting, a litle bit lazy on Defense, he is not very quick on his feet and had hard time to defend the opposite frontcourt. He has the qualities to be a good rebounder but his lack of effort was obvious during that game. From what I've seen I'd prefer Gist but maybe he was quite bored to play in Europe and he will be motivated by the NBA challenge.
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Aggie Hoopsfan
Then piss off and find another forum to post on.
lmao
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Re: Spurs will sign Marcus Haislip?
Interesting news. Lots of conjecture here about the signing of Haislip. I would be surprised if this is anything beyond a make-good deal. One way to tell will be if RC calls a press conference later this week to introduce him....or NOT.
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Re: Spurs sign Marcus Haislip
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Originally Posted by
biziofromdowntown
IMO:
T. Parker / G. Hill
R. Mason / M. Ginobili / J. mcClinton
R. Jefferson / M. Finley / J. Gist
T. Duncan / D. Blair / M. Haslip
R.Wallace / I. Mahinmi / M. Bonner
I think Gist needs to be behind Haislip and if Williams is still on the team he'd go behind Finley.
Would the Spurs carry a full roster like that? For some reaon I thought they liked to keep 1 spot open.
Either way, that's a pretty good balanced roster right there. The starting lineup is insane. Even if you plug McDyess in place of Wallace. The 2nd unit is about as solid as we've had in a while.
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Re: Spurs will sign Marcus Haislip?
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jjktkk
You think Haslip's main competition this summer would be Gist then? With the loser gone or sent to Austin?
I think Gist will be in Europe next year.
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Re: Spurs sign Marcus Haislip
we wanted big athletic and tall this year we are right on track even if I have some doubts about haislip but at the min it's a no brainer
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Re: Spurs sign Marcus Haislip
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Brazil
we wanted big athletic and tall this year we are right on track even if I have some doubts about haislip but at the min it's a no brainer
I rather hear the words "athletic" and "tall" over "slow" and "short" any day.
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Re: Spurs sign Marcus Haislip
I was happy when we were thinking the signing might have been with the LLE but to think it's a minimum deal is even better.
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Re: Spurs will sign Marcus Haislip?
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Brazil
Nice scoop Bruno !
:toast
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Re: Spurs sign Marcus Haislip
I honestly can't see the downside to this transaction. If Haislip fails, he's a minimal risk that won't burn the Spurs for very long. If Haislip can come close to the talent that made him a lottery pick in 2002, the Spurs get a bargain. If Haislip can just give the Spurs some minutes here and there to spell what seems likely to be a couple of aging front-line stars, it's probably about as good as they could have found domestically at that price. More than that, it's clearly not exclusive of any other move the Spurs might try to make; even with a guaranteed deal, they could break from form enough to pit Haislip against another minimum deal player in camp and see who prevails.
I just don't see why anyone would quarrel with this decision.
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Re: Spurs sign Marcus Haislip
I do not think anyone hates it, but in typical ST fashion (unleash the Gist!), people are projecting way to much.