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Re: Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?
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Originally Posted by
RuffnReadyOzStyle
My point is that it isn't another source, not a reliable one anyway. Someone in the Boston Globe's office read Tanq's Tweet and turned it into "are said to be", otherwise they'd be citing their source with far more certainty like "a member of the Celtics'/Spurs' organisation".
:lol I just don't get why you don't think Tanq could be a reliable source for anything but any other beat reporter or writer could be.
He obviously knows people in the Celtics organization or he wouldn't have broken the news about Rasheed signing.
Anyway, it doesn't matter and I don't care if the Spurs get Big Baby or not; I just think it's hilarious that you are so against him being possibly right.
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Re: Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?
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EricB
Yeah I have to agree I don't like this move, if it indeed happens.
I think hestoo soft around the rim, his low post game is mediocre, while as its been said he got alot of points, he took alot of shots to get it.
I'd personally much rather have Antonio McDyess.
We don't need a big with a low post game, that's what Tim is there for.
We need a guy who isn't afraid to shoot and can knock down shots. Davis could fill this role.
Took a lot of shots to get it? He shot 50% in the playoffs averaging 15.8 PPG along the way. Yeah, talk about a volume shooter :rolleyes
Damn dude, if you aren't going to pay attention, then put down the keyboard and just scroll.
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Re: Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
Do you agree with this strategy if true?
Not really. I'd rather get another big that can rebound and block shots. If Big Baby is the starter next to Duncan next season, it's difficult to imagine the defense improving too much ... especially if Bowen isn't on the team.
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Marcus Bryant
If true, Pop and TD are tired of having shrinking violets playing in the frontcourt.
Boston won a title with this guy getting significant minutes in the frontcourt, despite his Bonner-like rebounding and shotblocking stats....
they won a title with him getting significant minutes in the frontcourt?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/...PaB4?year=2007
14.5 minutes in game 6, the 39 point blowout. DNP-CDs in games 1-5.
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Re: Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?
Who would have thought that by "big man" the Spurs meant width and not height.
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Lets clarify:
1) He is not long nor a good defender
2) He has hit some big shots, but is a 37% jump shooter
3) He rebounds worse than Bonner
4) Blocks less shots than Bonner
5) Will likely command the full MLE
6) Does nothing to help Tim anchor the defense
That it?
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Oh hell no.. I rather have Bonner. :lol
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Re: Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
Lets clarify:
1) He is not long nor a good defender
2) He has hit some big shots, but is a 37% jump shooter
3) He rebounds worse than Bonner
4) Blocks less shots than Bonner
5) Will likely command the full MLE
6) Does nothing to help Tim anchor the defense
That it?
7) No three-point range
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Libri
Who would have thought that by "big man" the Spurs meant width and not height.
:lol:lol:lol
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DPG21920
Yes, but like I mentioned, that shot has everyone over rating him as a "good" shooter. He is ok. But he did hit a few big shots in the playoffs, so that sticks in people's minds.
He's a solid mid-range shooter. He didn't got lucky in the playoffs. He was hitting that elbow jumper quite consistently for the 2nd half of the season. His overall season numbers don't look good because he was missing at an alarming rate earlier in the season - at one point, his overall FG% was 20% or so; he was probably making 5% of his jumpers. But Doc kept asking him to take that shot, because he was making those jumpers in practices since last season and spent the entire Summer working on them and he finally put it together somewhen mid-season.
This was a very discussed issue among Celtics fans last season. It happened this way. He's now a reliable option to shoot from the mid-range.
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DPG21920
Also, he gets too much credit for being a good low post defender. Not true at all.
You're wrong, it's absolutely true. He's great technique, he gets great leverage, he likes to get physical, he pushes guys out of their confort zone, he fights for position, he has the footwork to defend from behind,1/2 or 3/4. The only reason he's just good but not great or excellent is because he's too short and guys can always shoot over him.
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Re: Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?
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Spursmania
MB, Why do you think it could be a crafty move?
Because he fits a role instead of a fantasy league. Spurs need someone who can get to spots on defense, set picks, and compete. Not someone who can put up a shitload of stats but is in reality, worthless. Gooden comes to mind. Gooden can best a bunch of other 4 men when it comes to scoring and rebounding, yet how many teams has he been on now after 8 years in the league and at 27 years of age? That's because he can't figure out rotations and how to do what is needed to do to free up a team's stars to win.
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Re: Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?
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timvp
Not really. I'd rather get another big that can rebound and block shots. If Big Baby is the starter next to Duncan next season, it's difficult to imagine the defense improving too much ... especially if Bowen isn't on the team.
God, that is another aspect I completely forgot to look at. Spurs really needed to upgrade their defense.
RJ over Fin will help, but Baby - KT&Bowen?
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Originally Posted by
Aggie Hoopsfan
We don't need a big with a low post game, that's what Tim is there for.
We need a guy who isn't afraid to shoot and can knock down shots. Davis could fill this role.
Took a lot of shots to get it? He shot 50% in the playoffs averaging 15.8 PPG along the way. Yeah, talk about a volume shooter :rolleyes
Damn dude, if you aren't going to pay attention, then put down the keyboard and just scroll.
No thanks Ill keep the keyboard forum nazi.
You need a big with a low post game when Duncan is out of the game to post up and keep 4 down a viable offensive play. The Spurs really hurt this year due to no post offense.
Davis is as has been said, a horrible rebounder as well and this team needs a tough gritty rebounder next to him, ala, Antonio McDyess.
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Re: Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?
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Originally Posted by
timvp
Not really. I'd rather get another big that can rebound and block shots. If Big Baby is the starter next to Duncan next season, it's difficult to imagine the defense improving too much ... especially if Bowen isn't on the team.
my thoughts exactly, defense being better would be hard to imagine with BB in the start spot. I'm thinking Tim is "officially" moving to the center spot for this season (Yao will be out) and the Spurs are going mobile 4 who can shoot the 15'-18 footer consistently but not ruling out Camby just in case the Spurs are bluffing some folks. Not too surprised about Sheed, Spurs are up to something good or bad, hopefully excellent:flag:
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He averaged 8.4 minutes in the Hawks series, never playing more than 20 minutes.
He averaged 6.28 minutes in the Cleveland series (got a DNP in game 7)
He averaged 4 minutes in the Detroit series. He received 3 DNPs and his highest total in minutes was 11 in game 4 (19 point loss).
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Re: Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
Lets clarify:
1) He is not long nor a good defender
Other than the ability to get to the spots he's supposed to and frustrate TD himself.
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2) He has hit some big shots, but is a 37% jump shooter
How'd Bonner's 50% regular season 3 point shooting vagina fare in the postseason?
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3) He rebounds worse than Bonner
BFD. Could Bonner have helped the C's push the Magic to a 7th game?
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4) Blocks less shots than Bonner
The difference is insignificant at best. And furthermore, if we want to harp on stats all day there are plenty of regular season warriors who wuss out come winning time.
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5) Will likely command the full MLE
Doesn't matter if the Spurs aren't set on finding a starting big via free agency.
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6) Does nothing to help Tim anchor the defense
See #1.
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davis shot close to 50% in the playoffs
dont get me wrong davis will be a hell of a guy to bring off the bench behind duncan
and a threat when we get to close games and we need a guy to score
he's young, and is said to be a hard worker
but i believe dejuan blair will be the same guy but with rebounding i dunno a blair and davis out there would be intersting IMO (not because there both fat) :)
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Re: Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?
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Originally Posted by
mogrovejo
He's a solid mid-range shooter. He didn't got lucky in the playoffs. He was hitting that elbow jumper quite consistently for the 2nd half of the season. His overall season numbers don't look good because he was missing at an alarming rate earlier in the season - at one point, his overall FG% was 20% or so; he was probably making 5% of his jumpers. But Doc kept asking him to take that shot, because he was making those jumpers in practices since last season and spent the entire Summer working on them and he finally put it together somewhen mid-season.
This was a very discussed issue among Celtics fans last season. It happened this way. He's now a reliable option to shoot from the mid-range.
You're wrong, it's absolutely true. He's great technique, he gets great leverage, he likes to get physical, he pushes guys out of their confort zone, he fights for position, he has the footwork to defend from behind,1/2 or 3/4. The only reason he's just good but not great or excellent is because he's too short and guys can always shoot over him.
Well all of the numbers to date show him being very "average" in jump shooting. You can look up season splits if you like to see if there was a major jump like you claimed in his %'s.
I have watched Boston a ton. He does have good feet for a heavy guy, but he is not a good defender. You are giving him too much credit for "pushing guys out of their comfort zone". The guys get to spots in most situations and like you said, they shoot over him.
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Maybe the twitter dude is wrong. I'm not thrilled with Davis. Seems like we need some height out there.
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Re: Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?
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EricB
No thanks Ill keep the keyboard forum nazi.
You need a big with a low post game when Duncan is out of the game to post up and keep 4 down a viable offensive play. The Spurs really hurt this year due to no post offense.
Davis is as has been said, a horrible rebounder as well and this team needs a tough gritty rebounder next to him, ala, Antonio McDyess.
Davis is a pick and roll guy. Gee, I can't see how someone with such a skill set would ever be successful with the likes of RJ, Manu, and Tony...
Anyway, if you care that much about 4down being viable with the second unit, throw it in to Dejuan. He balled guys his size and larger (including a clinic on Thabeet's seven foot ass) at Pitt.
You whine that you would rather have Dice now that we missed out on 'Sheed. Neither one of those guys was going to do any work on the low block, Duncan or not.
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o c'mon folks, I don't believe this speculation shit. So this guy broke down the NEWS of Rasheed signing with the C's. It's merely speculation at this phase for baby tho.
I highly doubt the deal will go down
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Re: Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?
Fox Sports New England reported that Spurs are very close to a deal with G. Davis.
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Re: Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?
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Originally Posted by
Aggie Hoopsfan
Davis is a pick and roll guy. Gee, I can't see how someone with such a skill set would ever be successful with the likes of RJ, Manu, and Tony...