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Re: Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?
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Originally Posted by
Shastafarian
Then what is the 2010 plan?
LMAO at you thinking it was ever about Wade or Lebron...
Money to sign Tiago Splitter for one.
Plenty of talented players to choose from along with using the MLE.
Gives the Spurs more time to evaluate Manu.
See what shakes loose once the big chips fall.
The 2010 plan was about building a contender for Duncan's last years.
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Don't worry about Big Baby.. the Mahinmi+Blair tandem is going to be awesome enough to hold down the front court :drunk
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Re: Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
I am a patient man, so I will explain this again.
The RJ trade in isolation was a great trade. But what is the goal? To put together a team that can win another title (or have a legit shot) while Tim is a Spur.
If the Spurs look to fill the void with Big Baby, the net effects (handcuffing yourself out of 2010 with much more talent available) could be worse. A team with RJ + Baby is not going to win a title. The PF/C would be awful.
So, you have to look at all moves combined along with the opportunity costs associated with the moves. Hence, I do not like the RJ trade if it lead to Big Baby as the main big (using the MLE on him).
Richard Jefferson is likely a better player than SA could have gotten in 2010 by blowing off this season and waiting...and SA basically got him without having to give up anything. If they want Bowen or Oberto back they can choose that. so it was a good deal all on its own
We dont know what is going to happen the rest of the offseason anyway. this report is certainly not a done deal
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Re: Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?
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Originally Posted by
timvp
For the record, he averaged 15.8 points and 5.6 rebounds in 36.4 minutes per game in the playoffs.
So his rebounding took another big drop in the playoffs. Bonner on the glass looks like David Robinson compared to this guy :depressed
Thanks for the minor correction! But for the MLE, at his young age coupled with what he's already done ON A WINNING TEAM, NOT A LOTTERY TEAM, he could be steal and THEN SOME for the MLE.
Very shrewd FO, passing on Sheed, and taking Davis, if this is true!
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I think San Antonio is going to have to pay enough to get Baby. If they only offer him like 3 million, Boston will match. So this is not a sure thing yet.
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Re: Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?
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Originally Posted by
Shastafarian
He wouldn't be the main big. Spurs will bank on their young guys for that.
He is their young guy. If he comes for the LLE, then great. But that is not very likely now is it. He would command most of the MLE and he would be the premier big by Tim.
No rookie without experience that is paid less than him would take that spot.
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Re: Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
LMAO at you thinking it was ever about Wade or Lebron...
Money to sign Tiago Splitter for one.
Plenty of talented players to choose from along with using the MLE.
Gives the Spurs more time to evaluate Manu.
See what shakes loose once the big chips fall.
The 2010 plan was about building a contender for Duncan's last years.
Would you rather they didn't sign anyone else this year? That along with renouncing the RJ deal and you'd be happy?
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Shastafarian
:hang
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baby was pretty darn good in the playoffs (against two of the weakest front lines in the league) - but he has been nothing short of bad his first two years in the league otherwise.
he would be one of my absolute last choices of players on the market.
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We're fucked.
It's all that ugly ass Scola's fault.
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Re: Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
LMAO at you thinking it was ever about Wade or Lebron...
Money to sign Tiago Splitter for one.
Plenty of talented players to choose from along with using the MLE.
Gives the Spurs more time to evaluate Manu.
See what shakes loose once the big chips fall.
The 2010 plan was about building a contender for Duncan's last years.
Common sense again....for someone on this forum!!
Thanks, DPG21920!!!
:toast
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Bass is a better rebounder wow.
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Re: Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
He is their young guy. If he comes for the LLE, then great. But that is not very likely now is it. He would command most of the MLE and he would be the premier big by Tim.
No rookie without experience that is paid less than him would take that spot.
:lol According to who? He was a bench player in Boston and he'd likely have to play for a starting spot with a new team.
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Why in the world would the Spurs go after Big Baby, I'd much rather have a vet like Dyess and shore up the bench with youth...shesh this crying dude will surely have the spurs ....forget it!!!
We need .....ahh
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And you really think they'd sign Splitter for more than the MLE?
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Originally Posted by
Spursmania
That pic is so gay:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
Still tougher than any pic Karl Malone ever took.
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Originally Posted by
timvp
Big Baby Per 36 Minutes
6.6 rebounds
0.4 blocks
Big Bonner Per 36 Minutes
7.2 rebounds
0.5 blocks
To compare . . .
Brandon Bass Per 36 Minutes
8.4 rebounds
1.3 blocks
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Re: Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?
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Originally Posted by
Sii
Richard Jefferson is likely a better player than SA could have gotten in 2010 by blowing off this season and waiting...and SA basically got him without having to give up anything. If they want Bowen or Oberto back they can choose that. so it was a good deal all on its own
We dont know what is going to happen the rest of the offseason anyway. this report is certainly not a done deal
Did I say it was? I clearly said IF the Big Baby report is true, I do not like it. I am not judging until it happens.
I understand why they made the trade. I am the one who wrote about a trade like this a long time ago. I wanted this type of trade, but only if it leads to other moves that give the Spurs a legit shot. That was the only reason why the plan should have been abandoned. Baby is not good enough.
It would make it very difficult to go another direction when it fails (if baby signs for the MLE).
I also said that I like the RJ trade in isolation. But that is not the point I am trying to make.
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Originally Posted by
baseline bum
Still tougher than any pic Karl Malone ever took.
:lol
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Big Baby cried in a game last year.
enough said.
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heres to hoping for Bass over Davis :downspin:
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fuck plzno. Glenn Davis looks like a overweight slug running on the court. He is the last person I want, I'd take Rasho over him
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Originally Posted by
timvp
To compare . . .
Brandon Bass Per 36 Minutes
8.4 rebounds
1.3 blocks
:frying:
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Well, this would be the worst case scenario for the organization. There's something about this FO that just fails at FA acquisition.
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What happened to those giddy days of the Jefferson trade and Blair drafting. pooofff