Spurs leading race to sign McDyess...

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The San Antonio Spurs have emerged as the leader in the courtship of free-agent forward Antonio McDyess, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

San Antonio is one of three teams offering the full mid-level exception over two years, sources said. No deal is imminent, but it’s believed McDyess has offers from the Orlando Magic and possibly the Cleveland Cavaliers.

McDyess is considered one of the best unrestricted free agents on the market, and could complete a terrific offseason makeover for the Spurs as they retool for another championship run.

“He’s definitely been wrestling with this [decision],” one league executive said.

Detroit president Joe Dumars still wants to re-sign McDyess, but needs to clear more space to make a competitive offer.

McDyess, 34, averaged 9.6 points and 9.8 rebounds for the Pistons last season

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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

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Well according to my source they already signed him but are waiting until after the Michael Jackson memorial to finish.

spurs are offering dice a 2 year deal worth the MLE

dice also has offers from orlando and the cavs

hoopshype.com?

Man I cant even tell whats a joke on here anymore :(

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Originally Posted by ninjaskrzypek

Man I cant even tell whats a joke on here anymore :(

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Check to see if he's a Laker fan first.

Cool.

Going to cut the grass, hope there is more when i return

We more than likely would not know anything until tomorrow anyways.

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The San Antonio Spurs have emerged as the leader in the courtship of free-agent forward Antonio McDyess, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

San Antonio is one of three teams offering the full mid-level exception over two years, sources said. No deal is imminent, but it’s believed McDyess has offers from the Orlando Magic and possibly the Cleveland Cavaliers.

McDyess is considered one of the best unrestricted free agents on the market, and could complete a terrific offseason makeover for the Spurs as they retool for another championship run.

“He’s definitely been wrestling with this [decision],” one league executive said.

Detroit president Joe Dumars still wants to re-sign McDyess, but needs to clear more space to make a competitive offer.

McDyess, 34, averaged 9.6 points and 9.8 rebounds for the Pistons last season

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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

:flag:Go SPURS Go:flag:

Ill believe it when I c it...hopefully tomorrow

C'mon Antonio, please come to the Spurs!!

Your confidential source is Yahoo?

:lmao

well if they might have wanted mcdyess as much if not more than rasheed ill take him

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Originally Posted by 2Cleva

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:elephant :elephant Being that this is from YahooSports and Adrian Wojnarowski I can't help but believe this article. He is a good source. Hopefully this thing gets done today! :tu

MLE seems expensive for him

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Originally Posted by vander

MLE seems expensive for him

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It's pretty much the going rate for a 10/10 player.

i hope it wasn't the same source that said the spurs were the front runners for sheed as well...we all know how that turned out.

I'm not celebrating until the ink is dry on the paper.

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Originally Posted by vander

MLE seems expensive for him

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not if he produces 10-10 again.

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Originally Posted by vander

MLE seems expensive for him

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For a 10 and 10 guy it's a good deal.

Its not expensive when he is the missing peice to put together an AWESOME starting 5. Remeber who we got when we went cheap. Look at the WHOLE not the part.

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Originally Posted by vander

MLE seems expensive for him

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Market value. If Marcin Gortat is worth more than the MLE, McDyess is certainly worth at least the full MLE on a shorter term contract. This would be the best possible move by the Spurs.

This offseason will have been a major success if they can get McDyess to sign.

Roll with us, Dice :smokin

The MLE for 2 years on Dyess isnt expensive...I think it's a good deal.

Sounds good. Hope that a deal gets done. Have a bad feeling that Cleveland would get him.

why not marvin williams

:hungry::hungry::hungry::hungry::hungry:

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

It's pretty much the going rate for a 10/10 player.

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if he manages to be a 10/10 guy for us that would vastly exceed my expectations. I'd expect more like 7/7 in 20 mpg

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Originally Posted by crc21209

:elephant :elephant Being that this is from YahooSports and Adrian Wojnarowski I can't help but believe this article. He is a good source. Hopefully this thing gets done today! :tu

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Just to slow your roll a little bit, Wojo is the same guy who said the Spurs were close to landing Maggette last season. He's a pretty damn good source of info (he broke the RJ trade and the KT trade) but it's not quite worth the elephant dance just yet.

i have my doubts about mcdyess mainly his durability. he had alot of time off last season and had a strong finish with the pistons i want to c if he can carry over that near 10/10 for a full 82 games in sa

Damn if the spurs got dyess? I don't even want to think about it. It's too good to be true....

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Originally Posted by vander

if he manages to be a 10/10 guy for us that would vastly exceed my expectations for him. I'd expect more like 7/7 in 20 mpg

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7 and 7 in 20 minutes would be worth even more than the MLE.

What are the chances the Spurs pursue a trade for another big man if they do in fact get Dice? I'm all for picking him up, but I don't think he fills the starting c void.

Dice/Duncan combo sounds good to me.

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Originally Posted by slick'81

i have my doubts about mcdyess mainly his durability. he had alot of time off last season and had a strong finish with the pistons i want to c if he can carry over that near 10/10 for a full 82 games in sa

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If Blair is the real deal you can give him the occasional night off.

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i have my doubts about mcdyess mainly his durability. he had alot of time off last season and had a strong finish with the pistons i want to c if he can carry over that near 10/10 for a full 82 games in sa

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If McDyess can average something like 8 points and 6.5 rebounds per game while playing around 25 minutes, that'd be great and well worth the MLE over two years.

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Originally Posted by vander

MLE seems expensive for him

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We've not had a 10-10 guy next to Duncan since D-Rob left the building. If Gortat and Sheed can both get the MLE, certainly McDyess is worth that - and probably a bit more.

Make it happen!

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Originally Posted by timvp

Roll with us, Dice :smokin

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:shootme

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Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain

I think they will try and steal Ariza from the Rockets. That will take just enough time for McDyess to sign with us.

I hope.

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I doubt that happens but hope your right.

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Originally Posted by Death In June

What are the chances the Spurs pursue a trade for another big man if they do in fact get Dice? I'm all for picking him up, but I don't think he fills the starting c void.

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Duncan has been a full time center for about the last three years.

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Originally Posted by Death In June

What are the chances the Spurs pursue a trade for another big man if they do in fact get Dice? I'm all for picking him up, but I don't think he fills the starting c void.

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I don't think we would need another decent big, a cheap vet in case of injury would be enough, if we get Dice the potential trades should be for a decent backup 3 for RJ.

To go from Baby to Dice is so goooooooooooooooooooood.

this would be just as good or better than getting Sheed. Dice has more heart at this point and is more efficient with less minutes.

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Originally Posted by The_Game

According to my source

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mine too!! is your source yahoo by any chance?

this is encouraging news. and if popovich put matt bonner at "center," mcdyess will definitely fit.

I'm sure Pop would be able to manage his minutes and keep him fresh for the playoffs, especially if he wants to work Blair, Haislip, Mahinmi (and Gist?) into the regular season rotation.

Damn

Parker
Ginobili
Jefferson
Dice
Duncan

That team would beast.

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Originally Posted by nkdlunch

this would be just as good or better than getting Sheed. Dice has more heart at this point and is more efficient with less minutes.

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Agree. Wallace and McDyess are the same level. In fact, most Pisons fans seem to think McDyess is the better player.

The only reason I wanted Wallace slightly more is that his three-point shooting would allow Pop to keep him on the court no matter the situation. McDyess doesn't make the Spurs impervious to small ball and there's more risk of injury ... but minute for minute McDyess would probably give the Spurs more than Wallace.

timvp, do you mind if I steal this for this occasion?

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Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain

In his defense, the offer from the warriors came from left field. The Spurs were going to get Maggette until the Warriors lost Davis and then couldn't sign Brand.

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Thanks :lol. I think EVERYONE thought the Spurs were going to get Maggette and they really were leading the race last year unless someone came outta nowhere and offered him a crazy-stupid deal (which ended up being Golden State).

And we've got Blair :hungry:

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Originally Posted by timvp

Just to slow your roll a little bit, Wojo is the same guy who said the Spurs were close to landing Maggette last season. He's a pretty damn good source of info (he broke the RJ trade and the KT trade) but it's not quite worth the elephant dance just yet.

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Yep, it's true. Spurs fans were expecting Maggette to become a spur last year and it never happened.
So I am approaching this with extreme caution. :lol


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I don't think he's coming.. :depressed

A back up SF and Center would be excellent, but Dice would be great. The other two are wayyyyyyyyyyyyy in the back seat compared to Dice.

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Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain

It is rare for somebody to play a full 82 game season. If he plays between 60 and 75 abd is healthy for the playoffs I'll be fine.

Even though this team has gotten younger and even better we are still not a team built for the regular season, it is all about the playoffs.

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no i agree he has actually been pretty durable games played wise over the last 3-4 seasons.He tends to play great in stretches i think 7/7 or 8/8 is expected

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Originally Posted by timvp

If McDyess can average something like 8 points and 6.5 rebounds per game while playing around 25 minutes, that'd be great and well worth the MLE over two years.

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Bonner gave us almost that and people here don't think he's worth a stick of gum :lol :bang

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Originally Posted by timvp

Agree. Wallace and McDyess are the same level. In fact, most Pisons fans seem to think McDyess is the better player.

The only reason I wanted Wallace slightly more is that his three-point shooting would allow Pop to keep him on the court no matter the situation. McDyess doesn't make the Spurs impervious to small ball and there's more risk of injury ... but minute for minute McDyess would probably give the Spurs more than Wallace.

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The thing I like about Dyess is that he seems to give it his all every night, every possession, and every minute. McDyess also seems to have a money 20-foot jump shot. :tu. Please let this get done.

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Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain

When and if this deal is finished we still need to address the issue of back up small forward.

I would like either Moon or Carney. I hear Carney wants a bit more than the 800k we can offer for the min. That is the main reason I want Dice to leave just a little on the table for one of those two.

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Moon isn't attainable if you don't have the MLE or the LLE.

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Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain

When and if this deal is finished we still need to address the issue of back up small forward.

I would like either Moon or Carney. I hear Carney wants a bit more than the 800k we can offer for the min. That is the main reason I want Dice to leave just a little on the table for one of those two.

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No confidence in Fin-dog to play some backup SF minutes for about 15mpg? :lol

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Originally Posted by crc21209

The thing I like about Dyess is that he seems to give it his all every night, every possession, and every minute. McDyess also seems to have a money 20-foot jump shot. :tu. Please let this get done.

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Agreed, Dice has a very consistent 20-foot jumper which will come in handy.

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Originally Posted by crc21209

The thing I like about Dyess is that he seems to give it his all every night, every possession, and every minute. McDyess also seems to have a money 20-foot jump shot. :tu. Please let this get done.

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Dice is a pro's pro. Works hard. Tough-minded. Consistent offense. Dependable defense. Team guy and absolutely never takes plays off. If any new player deserves to come aboard, as a contributor, for a a shot at a championship - it's him.

Spurs need to get on the horn and tell Dyess' agent they need an answer by tonight. If the numbers come out tomorrow that could sweeten a deal Det could offer him, thats bad news.

RC must stress we need an answer so we can move to fill out the roster. (i.e. what the C's did w/ sheed)

Always been a big fan of dice. His shooting and inside presence would complement TD's game very well.

Hoping this goes down

Good news, but I'm not even half as a excited as I was with the idea of signing Sheed.

:pctoss

Reports like this never seem to work out in the long run.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Agree. Wallace and McDyess are the same level. In fact, most Pisons fans seem to think McDyess is the better player.

The only reason I wanted Wallace slightly more is that his three-point shooting would allow Pop to keep him on the court no matter the situation. McDyess doesn't make the Spurs impervious to small ball and there's more risk of injury ... but minute for minute McDyess would probably give the Spurs more than Wallace.

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Sheed has actually missed more games than Dice to injury by a large amount over the past 4 years.

There is no such thing as "leading" in these FA decisions. When he signs a contract, you'll know which way he's leaning. We were leading in the Bourosis sweepstakes. Portland was leading in the Hedo sweepstakes. The Knicks were the leaders for Jason Kidd.

The problem is, the other two teams that were mentioned have a pretty good chance of getting him a championship, too. I hope we get him. But I also hope we don't tie our hands for the next several years, in the process.

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Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain

When and if this deal is finished we still need to address the issue of back up small forward.

I would like either Moon or Carney. I hear Carney wants a bit more than the 800k we can offer for the min. That is the main reason I want Dice to leave just a little on the table for one of those two.

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We should be fine if Bowen comes back.

Backup SF isn't at all a problem. RJ plays tons of minutes, Fin can play some minutes or Spurs can play with a 3 guard lineup.

Even if Spurs get Dice, the main "issue" will be at PF/C.

PG Parker - Hill - McClinton
SG Mason - Ginobili - Hairston
SF Jefferson - Bowen - Gist
PF McDyess - Haislip - Blair
C Duncan - Mahinmi - (Trade maybe for Bonner and Finley :king)

I hope the roster looks something like this, but I know its way to early to project a lineup Im very bored. Hopefully we could get Collison with a trade. I hope Bowen comes back but reports say otherwise.

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This is spreading like wild fire! :lol

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/feature....johnson.folo/

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Originally Posted by Art Garcia

Detroit has already lost Rasheed Wallace in free agency to rival Boston, and won't be bringing back fellow veterans Allen Iverson and Antonio McDyess.

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Originally Posted by FvckMavs

We should be fine if Bowen comes back.

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I'd prefer hairston and maybe Gist in the regular season, then a 3 man rotation at the 2/3 in the playoffs, RJ's good for 40, Mason and Manu can have 28.

The same way I wanted Kevin Willis to win one in 03', and Fin in 07', I want to get Dyess his ring this year. Come on Dyess....come get in the silver & black!

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Backup SF isn't at all a problem. RJ plays tons of minutes, Fin can play some minutes or Spurs can play with a 3 guard lineup.

Even if Spurs get Dice, the main "issue" will be at PF/C.

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With Shaq now in the East, is there really a lot of need to have a bang it up center?

I think if we added some more length and quickness at the position that it might help more.

If we end up getting McDyess, that would help solve some depth issues, but I agree there still would be a need in the middle.

DICE!!!!!!! ive always been a fan of his. pretty exciting news if true!!

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Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain

Moon isn't going to get over a million though is he? The only one of the two I have heard contract wise is Carney and he said he wants above the minimum. Moon however is likely to leave the Heat due to salary cap issues.

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If we used the LLE on Haislip and the MLE on McDyess or some other big man, then the most we can offer Moon is a minimum contract, which is less than his qualifying offer from the Heat. If we still have the LLE available, we would be able to offer Moon more than his $1 million QO, but the Heat would be able to match if they want to. Like you said, they have cap issues so they might not match, but the fact that they extended him the QO means that they at least have SOME interest in bringing him back.

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Originally Posted by kbrury

PG Parker - Hill - McClinton
SG Mason - Ginobili - Hairston
SF Jefferson - Bowen - Gist
PF McDyess - Haislip - Blair
C Duncan - Mahinmi - (Trade maybe for Bonner and Finley :king)

I hope the roster looks something like this, but I know its way to early to project a lineup Im very bored. Hopefully we could get Collison with a trade. I hope Bowen comes back but reports say otherwise.

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You know..
I really f*cking hate when people set up "projected" rosters..
It's like an automatic jinx.
I'll blame you if we don't get Dice. :lol

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Originally Posted by rayray2k8

You know..
I really f*cking hate when people set up "projected" rosters..
It's like an automatic jinx.
I'll blame you if we don't get Dice. :lol

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:toast at least Im not thinking this is final its just my wish.

This is very good news! I wanted McDyess to join the team last season but it didn't happen.

This means that Gooden is not part of the Spurs' plans.

Shoupd this come to fruition, I'd argue that theSpurs best play is to hang on to assets like Bonner's expiring deal, take a portion of the season to assess what games identify as the greatest weaknesses and have some ability to move to correct them in season. That, however, ignores the realities of the tax situation and the likelihood that the Spurs would prefer to reduce their liability now instead of risking exposure later.

With that said, I prefer McDyess to Wallace on a production basis and think the Spurs' best play all along in FA was to try to land McDyess. No character issues, a productive rebounder, a guy who is a willing teammate, and someone who's been near the top but is hungry to summit the mountain.

a few have mentioned moon, i think moon is a big no here. hes one of those guys that are overly concerned with stats. despite his defensive numbers hes not a great defender. many toronto fans have complained about how he does take cares and gambles too much. we should stay away from him.

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Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain

But say McDyess only takes 4.5 million of the MLE. We still have 1.1 million to spend correct? Or would we have to wait to use that?

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We could use it immediately, but if McDyess is our current #1 target, and Orlando has an offer of 2 years at the full MLE on the table, why would we low-ball him?

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Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain

I have been told that Bowen is looking less likely to return this season. The Bucks would like to have some vet leadership and possibly a trading chip come the trade deadline.

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For the Bucks, maybe saving 2 million > getting vet leadership from Bowen. I have a feeling that the Bucks will waive him, but Pop may not want him back.

Dice to SA.

I'll believe it when it happens.

For now, I'm going to box up my excitement of signing a key big in FA.