Lakers Still Hold Edge Over Fortified Spurs

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Originally Posted by Vito Corleone

If we are judging Bynum on his great potential then why are we not giving the same consideration to Blair and Mahamini? Blair is a rebounding machine, and Ian is a 6'11 280 lb athletic freak. I actually think Ian will be our starting center next year next to Tim. Ian had a freak accident last year and it pretty much cost him the whole season, well he is now healthy and will be turning some heads with his play.

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I'd like I vbookie on who will average more rebounds per minute next year, Blair or Bynum. :lol

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Originally Posted by carrao45

How about averaging 28 15 in 60% in the 5 games before he got injured. Thats what makes us think he can, it's all about tremendous upside potential. But dont let silly things like facts stop your argument...

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Who were those games against?

Wow. He had a stretch where he played good for 5 games. All in the regular season. Probably all against bad teams with no centers. Keep impressing us.

Let's see him do it for 82 games and the post season before you start acting like he's one of the best players in the NBA.

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Originally Posted by The_Game

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Lakers are better than all those teams even when healthly....Boston is the only team you could argue would be able to beat the Lakers out of that group. Denver had injury problems? since when? and the Hawks? you even mentioning them makes you a clear Laker hater...hard to respect people's point of view when you are blinded by hate.

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Carmelo was obviously injured the whole series, dunno how you missed it.

No hate. Just facts. LA lucked into health while everyone else didn't. The end.

BTW, your team was NOT better than all of these teams. Their 16-7 record proved it. The 03 Spurs went 16-8 and Tim didn't have anyone near Pau or Odom's level.

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Originally Posted by Pucho!!!

I think Artest wants to be in LA more for the fame than for the ring. I think right now, Ariza is the better all-around defender. If u had a team with Ariza and Artest, who would u have guard the best perimeter player on the other team? IMHO, Ariza

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Absolutely agree. This is about him marketing his show biz credit. He could have gotten more money and playing time in Houston.

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Originally Posted by The_Game

Bynum has proven he can dominate teams in this league..granted limited amount of games but he is still proven he can play at this level...those two havn't.

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Dominate the Clippers?

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Originally Posted by carrao45

Plently of players have come back. Besides he's only 21

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coming back does not mean returning to equal performance. knee reconstruction has a long history of robbing players of much of their athleticism.

mcdyess certainly plays above the rim still but if you compare his time in denver when he could leap out of the building to his time after the surgery and its night and day.

you basically have 10 games of him playing and a whole bunch of knee injuries. in two years hes dislocated his knee cap and tore his MCL. In both cases his recovery took longer than expected and when he did finally come back he still wasn't healthy enough to play worth half a flip highlighted by his benching for sucking.

Stability issues and slow recoveries do not bode well for future performance. why do you think blair fell to the second round? He fell after 2 years of good health because knee issues like that have a history of crippling players.

This is even before you consider that hes an unproven talent nitwithstanding Laker Koolaid claims of ten games of dominance.

http://elibrary.bigchalk.com/drsserv...%2F85%2FC7.jpg

:lol I just had to.

So... Kobe is the best player in the NBA... the Spurs will never win w/o a healthy Manu (I guess Holt better sell the franchise when Manu retires)... and losing Ariza and maybe Odom isn't an issue.

Looks like a die-hard Lakers fan trying to keep his hopes up.

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Originally Posted by will_spurs

So... Kobe is the best player in the NBA... the Spurs will never win w/o a healthy Manu (I guess Holt better sell the franchise when Manu retires)... and losing Ariza and maybe Odom isn't an issue.

Looks like a die-hard Lakers fan trying to keep his hopes up.

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:king

The Lakers are the best team in the NBA until proven otherwise.

Assuming they resign Odom they will be an even better team next season than they were this season.

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Originally Posted by DrHouse

The Lakers are the best team in the NBA until proven otherwise.

Assuming they resign Odom they will be an even better team next season than they were this season.

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http://www.nba.com/games/20090504/HOULAL/boxscore.html

Playing time:
S. Brown - 12:30
J. Farmar - 02:53

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DrHouse, care to respond?

4 things:

- This guy smells like a Laker's kool aid drinker
- This was done before the adquisition of Dice
- Clear desire for Manu not to be healthy
- Premature ejaculation

i hate this board. its either - anybody on the lakers is overrated and the spurs will win cause they got better or the lakers are the best we will win. im more on the middle. anybody that says artest to the lakers is bad is stupid. jefferson is a good player but to say they will overtake the lakers outright is dumb. manu isnt even the 2nd best player on his team. he is that bad now i dont see these arguments about him being the second coming of jordan

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Originally Posted by DrHouse

No that's not an accurate statement at all.

Shannon Brown rarely, if ever, was guarding Aaron Brooks. He played the backup PG role in that series. 99% of the time he was guarding the Rocket's backup PG Lowry. The only player who got straight lit up by Brooks was Derek Fisher.

Don't take my word for it though. Go back and watch the playoff game tape of Brown against Deron Williams, Chauncey Billups, etc. He did a fine job, certainly more than adequate for what the Lakers are looking for. As long as he keeps working on his jumpshot Phil Jackson will find minutes for him next season. Remember it's Farmar the Lakers want to trade right now, they just signed Brown to a new contract.

I would like to conclude this post with a statement you all should reflect on. NBA championships are not won on the perimeter. They are won in the paint. The Lakers have never had any one player who could put the clamps on Tony Parker or even Ginobili for that matter and yet they still hold a decisive 4-1 advantage over the Spurs in this decade. Until you can truly compete in the paint, you aren't beating the Lakers.

The Lakeshow is the team to beat. They are the goal the Spurs need to reach for. Not the other way around.

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Tony Parker, top of the key, dribbling the ball. Right in front of him, Shannon Brown. If you don't foresee a layup, you sir are a dumbass.

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Originally Posted by Texas 2 Step

Rj is better than Artest.........hes a better shooter, finisher, FT shooter and at least as good a defender. I give Artest the edge in passing.

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Everything you say from now on should be ignored because that is a load of crap...Jefferson has never been close to the defender Artest is. Even though Artest isn't what he was he is still ahead of Jefferson defensively..stupid to suggest otherwise.

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As far as LAs bench- one would be foolish to believe that SA is not at least as good so long as Blair who many believe could avg 12ppg and 12rpg now- and Ian can give us good mins. Sasha is a bum, Walton is avg at best.

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:lol Blair 12 and 12 guy? on what planet? there is a reason why he was drafted so low in one of the weakness drafts EVER and it wasn't all due to injury..stop overrating him it makes you look foolish.

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Last year a healthy Spurs team would have given LA all they could handle, this year we add major upgrades while at best LA stayed stable and yet they are heavy favs???

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Who said anything about being heavy favourites? Lakers are favourites and should be..why is that some kind of stupid statement? lakers are the champs and have a super talented team...doesn't mean they can't be beat.

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Originally Posted by spurspf

Tony Parker, top of the key, dribbling the ball. Right in front of him, Shannon Brown. If you don't foresee a layup, you sir are a dumbass.

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Thanks for the imagery. Looking forward to seeing this.

Duncan > GASOL, BYNUM, ODOM combined

you lose.

The last couple of post is saddening to be a Spurs fan. Blair a 12/12 guy? RJ as good as a defender as Artest? Yes offensively no doubt RJ is better but hands down Artest is the better defender. Blair was a beast in college but this is the NBA. He is a 0/0 guy until proven otherwise.

I'm not scared one bit of the Lakers. There championship was one of the weakest I can remember. Gasol and Bynum are both pussies, and the talent level after Kobe drops off pretty good. Farmar is garbage, they lost ariza who bailed them out a few critical games, and Artest is a nutjob.

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Originally Posted by Vito Corleone

Blair is a rebounding machine, and Ian is a 6'11 280 lb athletic freak. I actually think Ian will be our starting center next year next to Tim.

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You mean to say that Ian has gained about 60 lbs since he was drafted?

Hopefully this is all true. I like the Spurs as the underdog.
That's the best position to be in come playoff time.
See you next spring and good luck Lakers.

The Laker's don't have to worry about Bruce disrupting Kobe's game anymore, heck, maybe they even pick him up and shutdown Manu while they're at it.

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