What's missing. Rumors of a S&T. If the Spurs are to do it what type of piece or which palyer do you think they'd go for?
I'd say a long defensive player that could play the big 2s and 3s.
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What's missing. Rumors of a S&T. If the Spurs are to do it what type of piece or which palyer do you think they'd go for?
I'd say a long defensive player that could play the big 2s and 3s.
Package Vaughn, Bonner, and Finley for something please...
With RJ fortifying the SF spot with Finley, Gist is the only player needed to complete a good SF rotation.
I think the Spurs should be DONE now, with the exception of Manu's health and the minor role players like Vaughn, etc.
I'd go for that but Pop may want to get a veteran PG, Duhon maybe? I heard something about Gadzuric which I hope isn't true.
I would say another C or PG, but I do not think there is a S&T in the works. Just some bad info more than likely.
To get past the Dallas Mavericks the list is as follows...
Kobe
MJ
LeBron
Shaq
Steve Mc Nair....
How about a Nocioni trade, like MB was mentioning a few days ago?
Would you pull the trigger, even if it cost you Mason?
Get Bowen back.
Anything and everything else would be gravy at this point.
Unless some crazy deal is out there, I think the Spurs stay pat with the new roster. There are enough new people to learn the system this year. Should be fun.
Don't seen any way to get him but Battier would be awesome.
I would only do that without Mason. But that's assuming the Spurs are not willing to simply let Bonner and Finley's contracts end after the season. Still, he would fit the team extremely well and you get rid of Finley.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
I wonder how Bowen feels about this move can you interview him?Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
John Salmons. :D
Yup. If the Spurs had gotten Salmons, I'd be shaking in my boots.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickiRasgo
None of these players are "S&T" players like have been mentioned.
A back-up PG other than mcClinton would be nice.
EDIT: Wait I forgot about Hill.
Stay pat. Trade Bonner and Finley if possible. :downspin:
Spurs likely won't be able to do a sign and trade unless they find a team who wants Splitter or the expiring contracts so they can make a deal with another team looking to do a salary dump before the February trade deadline.
hill may be able to run point a season under his belt would help
Exactly, or with a team looking strictly for cap space for next years push.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
Spurs will make a move close to the deadline to improve at the 2 guard spot or to solidify the front-line if one of the young bigs doesn't step up.
Players that would make sense to package for:
Marcus Camby, Shane Battier, Stephen Jackson, Andres Nocioni, Raja Bell
If we could get ANY of those guys it would be F'ing awesome. Imagine Jack back with THESE Spurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
True, we are right where we want to be... maybe a PG, but Hill and/or Mason works fine too.:lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Stephen Jackson or Shane Battier, will be nice also with Andres Nocioni.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
OT: By the way, KB24 will visit here, In Philippines, on July 21 (July 20 on USA), do you want me to kill him? :lol Just kidding.
keith bogans
ANy of those guys would be sweet.:toastQuote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
maybe Rashad McCants
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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
sj no (would want more shots then he would get now with this stud team)
bell maybe bowen would be better
camby ok
andres HELL NO
Nothing. I think we've seen the last of the moves for the Summer. Bring on the SL!
The only guys I see with options that could be S&T bait are Moon, Marvin Williams, Hakeem Warrick, Kleiza. Am I'm missing someone of note?
Childress.
:lol At this point the only things missing are world peace and a cure for cancer, but I suspect RC Buford will find answers for those in the next week too.
Kleiza would be nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by picnroll
If anything else happens this offseason, I just might faint!
Something for Camby would be nice. Our guards can hang with anyone...but we need more depth in the front court.
for anything, so Pop can't play themQuote:
Originally Posted by SPURSGOAT
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
Hawks could use another quality shooter/veteran off the bench...Mason?
Spurs could dump their 2010 draft pick into any trade. They sure don't need the cap hit from it.
Bowen as a defensive coach for future defensive player of the year George Hill.
If Clippers are out of contention ( for some crazy reason) by late January.Quote:
Originally Posted by __JaG__
A Bonner/ Haislip/ Finley and a 1st for Camby would be something the Clippers would really consider.
IF the Clippers are out of contention? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
Don't you mean WHEN the Clippers are out of contention.
Oooh, interesting point.Quote:
Originally Posted by picnroll
sarcasm my friendQuote:
Originally Posted by Nathan Explosion
Lock-down perimeter defender: Thabo Sefalosha
Now people are just getting greedy! :lol
We have a beautifully balanced squad that can mix and match for any situation, and I think we're pretty much done at this point. Sure, an elite perimeter defender at the wing spot would be nice, but they don't grow on trees, and I feel that Hairston might be the guy they are going to develop in that role. Signing Bowen for the minimum to mentor him would not be a bad move.
I was thinking Finley and Bonner would be shipped, but given that the salary cap is likely to plummet next year by about the combined size of their contracts, that suggests to me the FO are more likely to keep them and let them expire. Also, if you dump those two you're suddenly short on proven long bombers - we hear that Haislip and Gist can bomb it, but they are yet to prove it in an NBA game.
Nah, I reckon we're done, and I'm fine with that. :tu
I don't think so, because you can't go consecutive drafts without a first round pick, and we didn't have one this year. We could throw in the 2011 pick though.Quote:
Originally Posted by picnroll
+1 everything is perfect so far. I would love to see Gist make the team as well as Ian not breaking any more ankles. Please no JV eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by bdictjames
Spurs are missing a defensive player to guard guys like Kobe and Melo. Bowen would help in that area. I say pick him again, or sign Dante Jones (although i don't have a clue what his monetary value is).
I'd say get bowen back and make a run at anthony johnson. He is experienced and has respectable defense with scoring ability.
Pg- parker, johnson, and play hill in a combo guard role depending on matchups.
As much as I like the thought of Camby out there with our 4 scorers, I think we need to see what Ian brings to the table with regard to protecting the rim. If Ian does well he is a much more economical choice for that role, with more potential upside.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
Hard for me to see where we can improve our situation since Bonner/Finley (+?) would likely involve taking back a bad contract for 2-3 years in return. Sure we need to take our best shot in 2009 to win it all, but we don't want be too hamstrung in 2010-11 either. There is still the possibility of getting Manu to stick around for several more years at a good price too. Valid point made that we could do worse at the end of the bench then Bonner/Finley, who can definitely hit the 3 ball if nothing else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain
Now, we need to trade Findog and Bonner away for teams clearing cap space for 2010. Perhaps get a 2011 draft pick and a vetern pg/sg in return.
Holy shit. I would nut in my pants.Quote:
Originally Posted by crc21209
Manu/Mason
Jefferson/SJax
Wow.
I really think people are missing the big picture in wanting to now jettison Finley and Bonner. We've upgraded where we needed to - centre and SF - and Finley/Bonner both know the system and hit 3s, beside being reliable veterans who know the system. Also, it makes no sense to bring in too many new players, and we already have nearly half the team coming in fresh.
No, I say keep these two guys. They are good regular season insurance, and perfect for mentoring all the youngsters and team continuity.
I agree completely with Ruff..unless something we can't reject comes along, I'd keep both Bonner and Finley, especially Bonner..the guy is going to be good playing against other bench players..
I think it's too early to tell btw..
Summer League is going to be significant for any potential moves..can Hill show any improvement with his PG skills?..can Hairston/Gist show that he can be a nice athletic player to backup RJ with Finley?..can McClinton show some nice scoring and decent skills as a "point guard"?..Ian and Blair?..
SL will answer some questions..
You guys are gonna poop when Blair starts on opening night, and immediately starts putting up 9 and 12 per night.
Yep. If Haislip and Blair come close to expectations, it's going to be hard to find minutes for everyone. Having those guys onboard has a lot of positives.Quote:
Originally Posted by RuffnReadyOzStyle
Vaughn is an UFA isn't he ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SPURSGOAT
McClinton is not a fucking PG and they aren't going to try to make him one. RC has already said as much.
Why do people keeping insisting that the Spurs will try him at the point?
How much did Dahntay Jones make last year?
I would offer him the LLE if that is enough....
Never say never, but I doubt the Spurs would take on Jack and his contract which ends in 2013.
what a troubled soul..you actually think Dallas has a chance against this Spurs team...:depressed I feel for you, Mouse...I really do...as a Mavs fan...it will be another heartbreaking season...as usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by mouse
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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
Unless Holt is laundering money for a Colombian cartel, you can say never.
Agreed. Get Camby!:toastQuote:
Originally Posted by __JaG__
Which, ironically, is what Spurs fans have been clamoring for two years, no matter who we've gotten or not gotten (ie Blair, Dice, etc).
Again, get Camby!!!:king
I don't understand why people think the Spurs need another Star caliber player
I really like what the FO has given us this year. We aren't playing a video game where you can grab 8 players rated really well and be guaranteed victories.
You have to take into consideration chemistry, player roles, minutes, match ups, etc. I think with what we have right now, we have already put ourselves in a place to contend this year. Like ANY NBA season a lot of it is going to rely on Pops coaching, some good luck, and hoping that we made the right moves and these guys catch on fast
super stoked on this season
We're just getting greedy now are we not? The FO is spoiling us.
We actually need these guys out of the picture so new talent can find the court. Pop is notorious for leaning on guys who "know the system"Quote:
Originally Posted by RuffnReadyOzStyle
We need to play the youngsters consistently and see what sticks. Bonner and Finley on the squad ='s two promising guys on the IR.
What year does Noc's contract expire?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
Heh... Hollinger's analysis is that by trading Nocioni, you reduce the Kings' win total by 51. Is it possible for a team to have a negative win total?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
2012, same as Duncan's.Quote:
Originally Posted by poeticism707
It's not "what's missing?"
It's "What SHOULD be missing?"
The Answer: Matt Bonner.
I have been thinking about this one for awhile; here goes:
Trade Bonner,Williams,and Finly's contract(they all are expiring) to portland for Pryzbilla and Fernandez. The deal is actualy good for both teams due to it allowing for us to fortify our 2 spot for the future and adding another big to the frey! Portland benefits this year during free agency and next year when they have to resign their stars roy/alldridge! They would be able to cut finly and williams for 2million worth of savings this year while bonner would fall off the books next year...just in time for them! What do you guys think?:lobt2:
So other teams are going to be so kind as to clear their bench just to give Bonner favorable matchups? Sweet! Will they do that in the playoffs too? :kingQuote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
haha bulls with -51 wins :wowQuote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
Bonner is now a bench player..meaning he'll be playing more often against other bench players, instead of starters like last year..???..Quote:
Originally Posted by Knoxxx
I don't want Jackson anywhere near this team..he doesn't fit at all after the RJ trade..we have enough all-star caliber players..
Fair enough. I don't think we see much Bonner at all the way this roster is shaping up though, except in garbage time when we are blowing someone out by 20 or more points!Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
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San Antonio is 3 hours away,and there pretty good this year?
win a cahmpionship or tank?
I think the Spurs are pretty much done now. They addressed the two biggest needs by replacing Bonner and Finley with McDyess and Jefferson in the starting lineup. They also added some youth with Blair and Haislip and possibly Gist, McClinton and Hairston.
Great balance to the roster right now. It's possible they pick up a 3rd pg that rides the bench unless blowout situations or some such.
:kingQuote:
Originally Posted by scottspurs
Great trade!Quote:
Originally Posted by teeclark
Portland may do it too, to get more cap space, the currency of the league.
I'd pull the trigger on that one.
Boris Diaw would not be bad pick up for those players: I also think he'd give LA some match up problems of their own, a la Suns-Lakers Playoffs a few years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
I would be loathe to give up Mason for him though.
If the Spurs got Battier, only giving up Mason, Finley, Bonner, etc, the Spurs would DESTORY the Lakers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain
No one, and I mean NO ONE, guards Bryant better in the league today.
I'd do that trade in a second: Battier and Scola, or just Battier exclusively.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors
I don't know who originally started the rumor that the spurs are involved in a Sign and trade, and this is basically me trying to connect the dots, but Mark Stein is reporting that there is a mystery 4th team involved in the Marion to Mavericks deal. Could it be the Spurs picking up someone like Anthony Parker. This could be just a bunch of crap, but we did pick up Ron Mercer years ago for nothing. Below is what Stein is saying:
TRADES: Four teams now in Marion deal?
Shawn Marion | Raptors
ESPN.com's Marc Stein reported late Wednesday afternoon that the Dallas Mavericks and Toronto Raptors had successfully enlisted the Memphis Grizzlies to help facilitate a trade of F Shawn Marion from Toronto to Dallas, but Stein later tweeted that a fourth mystery team could become involved before all was said and done.
Memphis still has cap room, so I wouldn't be surprised if the Spurs were trying to weasel their way into that deal to try and unload Finley and/or Bonner in a salary dump move.
You could be right. It sounds like there is a 4th team involved. Lets just hope out of 27 teams we are the team involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by coyotes_geek
Can't believe there is talk of Buckets. I'm the biggest Jackson fan I know, and I don't want him on this team. No room at all.
With McDyess jumping aboard, Bonner goes from liability to asset just like that.
He is now a big guy who can come off the bench, knows the system, stretches the floor and plays passable defense against mobile, perimeter type big men. For 10-15MPG off of the bench, particularly on a team with an older frontcourt you would like to keep fresh, Bonner is a valuable piece, particularly in the regular season, and with rotations shortening for the playoffs, you don't have to worry about him disappearing. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I would like the Spurs to keep him.
Finley, meh. Get rid of him if you can, bring Bowen back. At worst, Pop can not play Finley over Jefferson and with Manu and Mason at the 2, there isn't many minutes there. I think he is alright as end of bench insurance and as a shooter in situational moments.
The additions of Jefferson and McDyess really give this team ridiculous depth. The only thing I see the team needing is a veteran PG that can get the ball up the court, and be decent defensively.
How does Bonner have a higher Salary than Finley?
Bruce BowenQuote:
What's missing
Um, Bonner and Fin proved they didn't have it this year in the playoffs. Hell, Bonner spent half the time in the fetal position...Quote:
Originally Posted by RuffnReadyOzStyle
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Originally Posted by teeclark
Ugh, Pritchard will never trade with SA. The Lakers and Mavs would trade with us before Portland.
actually, at that point, you're getting into the whole "only one ball to go around" issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by 50 cent
as good as sjax is, with the roster in hand, you'd really like to have a defensive minded player who can just hit open jumpers/make the extra pass, i.e. raja bell if he hadn't lost a step.