Dude, there should be a rule, yeah, a rule, that you need to have at least 100 posts before you're allowed to.... oh, shit. Nevermind.
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Dude, there should be a rule, yeah, a rule, that you need to have at least 100 posts before you're allowed to.... oh, shit. Nevermind.
:rollin
What backpedal?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabbs
No team would ever take him of waivers. He's not worth doing that.Quote:
You're probably having bake sales to raise money for another team to claim Bowen off waivers.
I believe.
The same people whining that Bowen should not have been traded out of "loyalty" are probably the same people who never understood the disaster that was Malik Rose's final "loyalty" contract with the Spurs.
Fortunately, he got SO MUCH loyalty money that the Spurs were able to land Nazr in return. But man that dude sucked there at the end. See what happens when you over-reward loyalty? In this case, keeping Bowen, and thus losing out on the RJ trade, would have been similarly disastrous. Not because Bowen sucks, but because the team would have lost out on getting that much better.
Finley or Bowen this season off the bench? I go with Bruce. He would be able to play the role of "fireman" for short stretches. He would be an asset to the younger wings on how to play perimeter D and blend into an offense dominated by other players. As for Finley, I don't see how he fits into the new Spurs rotation. Please Pop-- not as a starter at the #2! If not, his only role is a spot up shooter off the bench. This is a role he has not done well in previous years. If the Spurs really want to develop their younger players then Hill, Hairston and Williams need Finley's minutes. Honestly, I never think of Fin as a Spur. In my mine he will always be a part of that Mav's team with Dirk and Nash. Unload Fin in some way and bring Bowen back for one last title run.
So Fabbs pony up the vet minimum, probably around $1.5 - 2 million x 2 for the luxury tax, put it into an envelope and mail it to Holt & Co., AT&T Center, San Antonio, TX. Get it done Fabbs and put your man back on the Spurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabbs
Ok lets be Realistic here...... I love Bruce Bowen...... But He Is Gone, Every Spur Fan i know Was Complaining about Us being to Old, and We Need to get Younger. Now We Bring In A lil Youth Movement, and People are Complaining about the Old guys Being Let go...... I have always Questioned things Pop and RC have done, But they always end up working out in the End, and proving me Wrong..... The only Decision they made that I still Dont agree with, Was Not Resigning Stephen Jackson..... Other then That, Pop always Has A plan, and I support whatever his plan May be.
Keep baking cookies with Humpy to raise money for any would-be team that might claim Bruce off waivers. They would have to pay the remainder of his salary.Quote:
Originally Posted by picnroll
The Spurs payment of Bruce salary once he clears waivers is a matter of negotiation.
Work that Troll apron. What a fail. :rollin
All knowledgeable Spurs fans agree. Loyal ones. :toastQuote:
Originally Posted by lotr1trekkie
Really, the Spurs should fire Pop and make Bruce Bowen the head coach immediately.
Loyalty, baby!
Exactly:flag:Quote:
Originally Posted by MosesGuthrie
Right, and Bruce isn't worth that these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabbs
It's a matter of whether they actually want him. I'd be fine with it if they did -- Finley wouldn't even have to be moved; you are too blinded by hatred to realize that -- but I'm also fine with keeping trade chips until the deadline.Quote:
The Spurs payment of Bruce salary once he clears waivers is a matter of negotiation.
I agree your agenda is a failure.Quote:
Work that Troll apron. What a fail. :rollin
You should have waited till Bowen had found a team to be with. Then you have your argument.
What if the Spurs hired (or convinced someone to hire) Bruce as a color commentator for local broadcasts, kept him around the team for the early portion of the season, assessed their team needs during that time, maintained the flexibility to make a trade with expiring deals like Finley's while making it possible for Bruce to rejoin the club (ala Sean Elliott in 2000) if prudent?
McClinton and Gist will end up in Europe or Austin. Williams or Hairston---not both. The Spurs will still have room for Bruce. Mahimni also needs to prove he can contibute NOW or he's probably gone also. THE FUTURE IS NOW!
People hate on Finley too much, seriously...he's been nothing but a professional since he arrived here. Always comes to play and never backs down from big shots, if Pop plays him too much like people claim than thats on Pop not on Fin. But I ask u this, who was a better option last yr than Fin? Who should Pop have given those minutes to? All you Bowen nuthuggers need to stfu about Bowen deserving the minutes, Pop didnt just magically say oh Im going to bench Bruce after 7 productive seasons. Bowen declined both offensively and defensively thats the reason he got benched....the man is damn near 40 yrs old. He isnt a machine and naturally slowed down.
As for the question, when the team's championship window is closing and u can get an athletic 20 point scorer without parting with either of the Big Three...u do it. Regardless of who is involved and how great that player has been to this organization, especially when he's nearly 40 yrs old.
All these people jerking off to Bruce Bowen and saying it was a mistake to "let him go" even though it got us jefferson clearly are either 12 or know nothing. Not to mention not realizing how different a player and team option are when making trades to save cap.
Go eat a cookie and spare us your idiocity.
Deserves to end his carrer like a champion!
Bowen is a champion, already multiple times.
Does he deserve to play based on past play, if he hurts the team's chances to win or get a championship?
I say no. sorry, I love bowen, but he aged past his usefulness and should gracefully leave the stage.
Are you serious dude. Pop won us 4 titles. What does that tell you. He's a mastermind when it comes to BB. Come on now. If the Spurs didn't have Pop we would be back in the same boat like in the 90's when we had great teams but no great players to surround David Robinson who was awesome but with no supporting cast. Don't get me wrong though I really hope and wish that Bruce resigns with the Spurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
The bitch ass cunt has showed up again I see.
I love Bruce. I'd love it if there was a role for him on this team. There is not. Did those who ramble about loyalty not notice that he played only 18 minutes a game and started having DNP-CD's. At 38 years old his effectiveness as a perimeter defender is deteriorating. His strength in the past was that he would wear down a player so that by the end of the game he was either too tired to shoot or had given up trying to get his shot off. He just can't do that anymore. If you are going to defend for short stints great athleticism is more effective.Quote:
Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
Wow, Fabbs...as i read through every thread on this post I have come to the conclusion that you are one of most clueless posters with over 2,500 posts that I have ever seen. For starters, it is not a Finley or Bowen deal. It is more likely a Hairston/Williams or Bowen decision. The only way Finley is not on this team is if their is a trade to bring in another wing that probably seals the fate of Bowen anyway. And the Spurs had loyalty to Bowen. They paid him more than he would have gotten with another team. This last contract extension shows that. How many teams do you see extending a guy through his 39th birthday? ONE...the SPURS!!!!! Get a grip dude. If you need a way to FEEL good about it, think of it like your children...just because they leave the house to set up their own doesn't mean they are not part of your family. Bruce will always be part of the Spurs family.
The anatomy of a typical Fabbs thread...
OP: <Pop-bashing>
Responses: <arguing against said Pop-bashing>
OP: You're all homers.
Bowen was traded as part of a package in a deal, from which the Spurs got a big upgrade at the SF position. I think it's just like Bowen dedicated his sweet life in San Antonio for the improvement of his team, no other action can give a better description to loyalty.