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That Finley is a class act is well documented. Nothing I have heard about Booner suggest he is not a team player either. Whether they stay with the Silver and Black next season remains in question. Whatever the future holds for them, I sincerely appreciate their efforts for the Spurs and wish them well. Let's show a level of class commensurate with our great franchise and not let our unsatiable lust for even more talent on the roster undermine that in the weeks that come.
I, for one, don't have a problem with them. As long as the minutes they log are insignificant. Once they start averaging way too many minutes is when fans really start getting upset. However, there will always be people who complain about a player.
Point is, talking about them like they are trash to be discarded, rather than solid human beings, is not cool.
Character :tu
Playing Ability :td
Character alone doesn't win :lobt2:
show them the love and send them to play with the mighty greece players
The way the team is constructed now it seems like these guys would fit in nicely. They know the "system" and don't rock the boat. As long as they don't get big minutes, I'm glad they're on the team.
i dont understand how people dont think these 2 will contribute
THEY BOTH STARTED LAST SEASON!!!!!!
i'm not saying they should have started, but they started on a 50 win team and are now going to be asked to come off the bench... how many teams have that?
asking them each to log 12-18, maybe 20 minutes a night is perfect for them... they won't be asked to guard people for huge stretches, but will be asked to make their rotations and set up in the corners to knock down open shots... which both can do and at a great %
Jefferson and AMD are perfect because we can finally move them both into roles they should be playing and not asking them to do more than they are capable of
Solid mentoring guys if nothing else. I'm still not convinced one of them can't come in and hit some big Kerr-type 3s in the playoffs either. Although, with this unprecendented amount of firepower hard to see the offense stagnating to the point where that would be necessary.
If Pop could agree not to overplay Finley then this would be fine but no one in the world thinks that's going to happen.
Even if they're both shipped out it's not like whoever comes back is going to get meaniful minutes. Besides, doesn't anyone fear whoever the return player is will just take minutes away from our precious Gist, Hairston, or McClinton?
Seriously, has no one paid attention to the moves the Spurs have just made? They're not spending all this money on Jefferson and McDyess so Finley and Bonner can continue to start and log heavy minutes.
Sure, it's possible they look to move one or both as a salary dump but it might be even more valuable to them to let them run off the books.
I have no problem with these guys, my problem is with:pop: playing the vets over promising youngsters, stunting their growth. Either way, hope they find another team that can appreciate their talents:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Knoxxx
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Joking!:king
They'll continue to fine role players within the proper scope: ie, neither of them playing over 30 minutes a game.:toast
Bonner and Finley both seem like great guys; they've both given some solid contributions to our team (Finley's actually hit a ton of clutch shots). Hopefully they don't take it personally, but if we could trade them 2-for-1 for a good backup small forward, it might be useful. Maybe if Houston is looking to rebuild, Bonner, Finley and next year's 1st rounder for Battier. We need the roster spots this year and next anyway.
Or they'll be traded and bring back something even better!!!:downspin:
Nothing against the two but it's been too long since a championship
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well... neither will play that much if at all. both are great trade pieces i think cause they both have expirings. finley is obviously a good mentor for some of the younger wings like gist or hairston but RJ, manu and mason arent bad either. i would miss both but wouldnt mind one bit to see them go.
The Spurs are in win now mode. The youngsters can learn from the vets on how to play. Having said that, I wouldn't mind the younger guys getting some burn too, but not to the extent of sacrificing the few years left of good basketball left in TD. This season is about winning a championship, nothing more nothing less.Quote:
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their wives can show them how love not me
I think the starting talent is deep enough that guys like Ian, Haislip, Malik, DeJuan can rotate in and out to the tune of 10-12 mins per game without leaving us vulnerable on the floor at any time. And personally, I dont want those minutes taken by Bonner of Finley.Quote:
Originally Posted by weebo
For Fin playing about 15 mins a night off the bench= :tu
For Bonner NOT playing at all :tu :lmao
I have to say, given how classy the Spurs organization is, that I for one as Spurs fan would like to emulate that class and treat Fin and Bonner with respect. I thank them for what they done and believe they will continue to help us this upcoming year.
As people, I have alot of respect for them and I appreciate what Fin has done for the Spurs. Bonner, I appreciate him for his effort last season, but he needs to man up. That being said, I don't want them hogging minutes.
I appreciate their contracts which may facilitate a great trade coming up...
http://www.nba.com/media/spurs/wp0607_bonner_1200.jpg
Love showed... this is now my wallpaper.
Probably the first person to ever use it.
I'd rather show them the door.
I totally appreciate what Finley has done for the Spurs and I don't hate on the guy. There is NO QUESTION that he has won the Spurs big games and has had key contributions. However he is definitely getting long in the tooth and is a defensive liability. I just want Pop to play him less minutes and surely that is going to happen this year with RJ and all the new blood.
Bonner just is not the kind of player who is identified with the word 'clutch.' His PO performance was atrocious and he can't guard anyone. Bonner + Finley on floor together = lots of grins for the opponent. In a more limited role, I'm okay with him on the team. If there is a good trade out there using these two fine shooters who have outstanding character and team first attitude, then thanks for the memories.
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I don't think anybody (other than the odd troll) have claimed they're anything but solid human beings.Quote:
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That said, I honestly believe that what they can provide for our team as players *IS* trash that needs to be discarded.
Bonner has his flaws, and +/- isn't the be-all stat, but you are talking about the Spurs +/- leader. Bonner could not lead the team in +/- and not be a good Spur team player.
Personally, I'd have Bonner start at C, with McDyess on the bench, but have McDyess put in more minutes. That makes for a lesser starting lineup, but a better bench, and a better team.
The fourth big on the Spurs still probably will get 16-20 minutes a night. Are people comfortable with Bonner playing that many minutes?
Given the money they spent on him, the fourth big could end up being Haislip... or even Mahinmi. Who can judge these things at this stage?Quote:
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For another team.
Hopefully they can help the Thunder make the playoffs this year.
Depends on the matchup, but in most cases, sure. There are going to be plenty of games where Bonner's 3 point shooting will really spread the floor and open things up for everyone else. If Bonner's not hitting his 3's, go with someone else. Same for Finley. Last year if Bonner and Finley were off, the Spurs were screwed. With the roster upgrades the Spurs don't have to depend on those guys nearly as much and there's plenty of other options.Quote:
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If the Spurs can move those 2 for something better, great, I'm all for it. If not, fine, there are significantly reduced roles for them to fill.
I don't have a problem with it if they are the right minutes. I think Bonner can be of value - a two headed monster of Blair and Bonner can be really attractive, utilizing each in the situation they both thrive in.
I don't have much use for Finley. I wanted him to retire.
OK--I would love to see them traded.
is your real name michael finely?Quote:
Originally Posted by Knoxxx
I still support Bonner. I think it would be a mistake to get rid of him for nothing. If there is a trade out there that improves the team, great.
Nothing personal, but I don't want either back on this team. And I'm sure many fans agree, as well as maybe some coaches and players.
I expect Bonner to be useless competing for playing time with other players. He shit his pants when Drew Gooden rolled into town. How is he going to handle competing with Blair and Dice, and as well as Hairlip, Ian, and possibly Gist. Let's just trade him and get what we can. Same for Finely. Hopefully we can somehow magically get draft picks out a deal.
bonner no, i cant stand his poor rebounding horrible defensive presence
finley i can stand even though hes equally as bad on defense
Finley in his hey-day was great. I wouldnt mind seeing him with a 9-12 spot
I will have a big problem if we see Bonner playing center or power forward again. Dude is a SF, enough with the kick-out bs
I'll give props to Finley. He worked his ass of these last few years to make himself into a respectable defensive player and he has hit some big shots.
After Bonner ran and hid during the playoffs, no soup for him.