RC and Pop have both said unequivocally that McClinton is not a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
Houston wouldn't trade us Battier for our scraps, so scratch that.
Bell or Diaw from Charlotte are intriguing options...
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RC and Pop have both said unequivocally that McClinton is not a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
Houston wouldn't trade us Battier for our scraps, so scratch that.
Bell or Diaw from Charlotte are intriguing options...
I still honestly believe Pop thinks Mason can play the point. He can be a stubborn guy.
pass on Carter, we can do better
Carter didn't make a go of it in his first shot as a Spur, think he can this time? He's a strange guy - has had his best season as a 33-4yo.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Would you do that? I hate the idea of losing Splitter, but we're talking about going all out for a ring or two over the next two seasons before Timmy rides off into the dust in 2012, so I think I would. It's all-in time, no point dicking around with a half-pot bet. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
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Originally Posted by poeticism707
Um, hell yeah you think about sending them Splitter, not to mention a pick.
Splitter's a guy the Spurs brass was thinking could come in next year, start next to Tim, and start with Tony once Tim retires. You don't give that up when you already shipped them Scola.
That, and Battier is overrated.
Finley, Bonner, Splitter, and first rounder for Battier, I would pass, I still have hope for Splitter. If you take out splitter I would say yes without question.
You're mistaken on this one, friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
Put Battier on Bryant for a series, with this Spurs team minus Bonner and Finley, and the Spurs win that series 4-1, or 4-2 at worse.
No one in the league defends Bryant better than Battier: add in his clutch and timely shooting from the 3, unselfishness and team mentality, and you just got a better, two way version of Bowen, only about 5 years younger.
It'd have to be a 2011 pick, but yeah, it's all-in time.Quote:
Originally Posted by poeticism707
Not scraps - nearly 7mil in 2010 capspace, a pick and the rights to Splitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
No way Charlotte gives up Diaw, although Bell is not a bad idea.
Maybe, but he is not worth including Splitter .Quote:
Originally Posted by poeticism707
Very nice writeup, MB.:tu
We're definitely on the same page after that OP, and I had the same thought of a trade following the signing of 'Dyess.
My two points of concern would definitely be a defensive-wing (preferably 6' 6'' or over) and another capable defensive 5. (preferably 6' 10'' or over)
I've mentioned McGuire and Sefolosha incessantly on this board and have suggested trying to snag Battier after Houston's signing of Ariza and their misfortune with Yao, but Bogans seems like the type of player the Spurs would acquire. I think Sefolosha and Battier would be the best gets for a win now team, though. Sefolosha is basically a more physical Christie-type player, someone who could potentially run the point next to Hill, and Battier, like McDyess, is just one of those guys that scream "Spur" in character/professionalism. (Not to mention he's one of the best perimeter defenders in the league)
Splitter deciding to come over would be absolutely perfect to fill that 5 role, but this offseason really can't go that well, can it? I've always liked Foster and it would be nice to see the local guy have a chance to win a ring in his hometown (ala Devin) but I'm not sure where his game is at, at this point. I just haven't seen enough of him lately to make a good, honest assessment. If he's anywhere where he was 2 to 3 years ago he'd definitely be an asset and one I'd like to see the Spurs try an acquire.
I'm absolutely in disbelief at what the Spurs have done but with the way the contenders are loading up, filling that 5 and/or wing defender role might be an absolute must..
This upcoming season's playoffs are going to be absolutely bananas.:wow
if we can get Battier for expirings and Splitter I would do it in a heartbeat...come on....its about the next 2 years and we have Dyess now...Battier can do much more for us in those years
I would love me some Sefolosha. Dude was money when guarding DWade a couple years back. I don't know why he's so undervalued but think he's a potential buy-low.
I'm eagerly awaiting timvp's reply on this one.
Splitter, Splitter, Splitter... what about 7mil in 2010 capspace, 2011 first rounder, 2010 2nd rounder and 3 mil? Nah, they'd make it Splitter's rights or no deal, wouldn't they? What about 7mil in 2010 capspace and Splitter's rights, no picks? Wonder if they'd go for that?
This is all pie-in-the-sky stuff anyway. I'm very happy with the team as constituted, I just think Battier would be a perfect fit to back up RJ and be our new cooler for two seasons. We'd also then have about 28mil (RJ, Dice, Battier) coming off the cap at the end of 2011, which is intriguing.
I wouldn't trade Splitter, especially is Splitter is a more than capable big man in this league. If Splitter becomes a borderline superstar (big if I know) then the Spurs would have some blocks to build with in Parker and Splitter when Duncan retires.
I am thinking it is more about the next three, shoot for the three championships and let Duncan ride off into the sunset. You bring Splitter in and have Duncan and McDyess groom him, while finding a defensive SF. The trade would need to be for someone like a Posey or Battier. Who knows what is happening with Splitter, every detail that comes from that camp is cryptic and misleading.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by mudyez
Splitter might do much for the team in 2or 3 years: but that's pretty much the end of Duncan's window.
If those role players + Splitter net you Battier, you do it. Because this is about the now: there is no more long term in Duncan's career.
Problem with Antony Carter is he's still a shitty shooter.
Carter was hurt last time. The question is if the Spurs are still mad at him for signing with a gimpy knee.Quote:
Originally Posted by RuffnReadyOzStyle
Hmmm. Probably. I still don't think Morey would do it unless he could get Splitter over this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by RuffnReadyOzStyle
(and the Spurs could hypothetically give them a 2010 first round pick)
Problem with anthony carter is he is taking up space and thought on these boards we could be using on players that would be good for this team.:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
I would love to get Battier for Finley and Bonner along with next year's 1st rounder (can we do that since we traded last year's 1st?), but I would not include Splitter. He's the long defender I've wanted to see play alongside Duncan, and there's a chance he's coming over next year.
AHF you really think Splitter would be good enough to warrant TP staying here after Duncan retires?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
I think, realistically, Parker bolts for LA as soon as Duncan leaves. He will be fondly remembered in SATown.
Why give up a potential starting center for an over 30 backup specialist? Splitter isn't untouchable, but trade him if it is something really worth it.
If we could keep Splitter and take Bell, I'd do that over trading Splitter to Houston for Battier.
Now, if we could get Battier without Splitter being in the deal, then you do it.
But I still like Diaw on this team. I think the leadership both on and off the court can help Diaw thrive. Can you imagine Diaw and Gino coming off the bench to take over the scoring for Parker and Duncan when they for a rest?
Which is just another reason why you trade Splitter and role players for Battier, so you can win what ever titles you can now.Quote:
Originally Posted by phxspurfan
Um, no. Battier didn't do shit other than put his hand in Kobe's face while he was shooting.Quote:
Originally Posted by poeticism707
Battier's defense of Kobe is such a myth. Let's take a look at the first two rounds of the playoffs for Kobe this year (vs. Utah, then vs. Houston and the 'great' Shane Battier):
vs. Utah: 40.6 MPG, .466 FG%, 27.4 PPG, 3.8 TO/G.
vs. Hous: 38 MPG, .453, 27.4 PPG, 1.57 TO/G.
So, in two less minutes per game than what he played against Utah, he was able to match his scoring average from round 1, and cut his turnovers per game by more than half. His shooting percentages went down a whopping 1.3%.
Yep, Kobe stopper indeed!
And let's not even get into regular season (okay, let's!):
Teams Kobe had a lower shooting percentage against in the regular season than Houston (I only included teams that he played 4 times to make it a true, fair comparison - larger sample size):
Denver, Golden State, Clippers, Minnesota, New Orleans, Phoenix, Portland. Out of ten teams the Lakers played four times this past regular season, SEVEN of the teams held Kobe to lower FG% than Houston and the great Shane Battier.
In short, pass.