Not a bad breakdown actually...Quote:
Originally Posted by FkLA
hmmmmmm
Still debating this one though...
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Not a bad breakdown actually...Quote:
Originally Posted by FkLA
hmmmmmm
Still debating this one though...
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Originally Posted by Evan
When in doubt, reply with 4 Rings...
The more I think about this, the more I think it's a trade you have to do...
Howard and Rashard Lewis for Tim maybe?
Many have said it, although I feel they haven't nailed it yet. I'll give it a try:
As much as I love Howard, he is not a guy you can win a title if he is your best player. Period. He might average 25pts, 15rbs and 5blks but he is not someone you can depend on for your offense. Again, as some have said, I wouldn't trade an in-his-prime Amare for a in-crutches Duncan, regardless of age, the level each player can take you is very different. With Duncan, you can build your whole team's game around him, both on offense and defense while if you build your offense around Howard's then you are pretty much screwed. The only reason Orlando was so succesful was the dynamism and matchup problems of Hedo and Lewis plus Howard playing off them and not the other way around. If you have Howard or Amare in their primes, you would still need one awesome team around them to be considered a contender, a nice team would only make you first round fodder. With Duncan in his prime, an otherwise below average team is a contender and good team is almost a mortal lock for a championship. With Duncan in the twilight of his career you still have a VERY GOOD shot with a good team. Just so you know, next year roster is the best team Duncan has had and they are not that amazing either. He is that good that he has won 4 titles already!
If you have noticed, I have not even mentioned the loyalty for staying and also taking less money when he was up for a max contract. Not to mention that many fans would rather see Duncan retire a Spur than winning a couple more championships without him. The titles happiness and loyalty would be gone after a few years. Letting go of Duncan would take decades for the franchise to recover.
What do you think Spurs fans, did I get it?
I wouldnt Trade Timmy For Anyone In the NBA..... he Deserves to retire A Spur.
Hell to da mutha effin no!!
Bynum >>>>>>>> Howard, and i am talking about right now.
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Originally Posted by Showtime24 LAKERS
Fixed.
It would never be possible to get equal value for a player as legendary as Tim Duncan, it's like trying to trade Michael Jordan. Duncan deserves to retire a San Antonio Spur, he's the guy like Jordan (Bulls 6 NBA titles) who gave this franchise the 4 NBA titles (the Admiral helped him win 2 of them). You don't trade away greatness no matter what. He is also one motivated player looking this season (if health permits) to put the Spurs back on top again as NBA champs.
In theory, if your talking about two players strictly in the present, with no regard for the past, then yea - you would be stupid not to make that trade if your the Spurs. Your getting a guy who can be a dominant defensive force for 10 years, for a guy who will only play for another 3 years.
But in reality, no, you wouldnt trade Tim Duncan, because of what he's ment to your franchise.
I would make the opinionated assertion that Timmy is further ahead of Dwight in basketball IQ than Howard is ahead of Timmy in athletic ability, therefore I say no.
Keep in mind that I am also somewhat myopic in my viewpoint due to my great respect of TD and the entire Spurs organization. As someone else stated, TD deserves to retire a Spur.
Looking back on my greatest NFL idol back in the '80s and '90s, Joe Montana (My team was still the Cowboys), it was a travesty that he didnt retire a 49er. Montana as a Chief never set well with me.
In a day and age where we see so much player movement, I would like to think that the Spurs would break the mold and retire TD as a Spur. I think that is what is in the plans anyway. The Spurs have been great at taking care of their own in the past, let us not forget the VERY generous parting gift that AJ got during his final year as a Spur.
I guess this will always go on. Trade the old for the young. Could it happen? Not for Howard. We did send Gervin packing towards the end of his career. If George can be traded then anybody can.
LeBron?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpurCharger
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Originally Posted by LEONARD
Maybe Silva...:hat
If you had a crystal ball and it said that if we pull the trigger on this we would win a championship the next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEONARD
I would still say Hell Noooooo
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Originally Posted by jack0fspeed
Spur Fans hate finley and call for him to be traded, and then they call themselves loyalQuote:
Originally Posted by DBMethos
Finley has not meant anything to the Spurs franchise the way he has to the Mav franchise. Any sensible fan of the NBA can understand that. :rolleyesQuote:
Originally Posted by carrao45
Right know in the careers if you were trying to win a championship this year i would not trade TD for Howard. But if were talking in the next year or 2 then i would trade TD. Even if Duncan went to another team in his last yr of his career He'd always be remembered as a SPURS. He'd go into the Hall of FAME as a SPURS player. Players come and go but the team will never will.
Jake Voskuhl?