Hollinger: San Antonio is not a given to beat Dallas

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

lakerfan lies!

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:lmao

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Originally Posted by 2Cleva

Parker 27
Mason 28
Jefferson 29
Duncan 33
McDyess 34

Ginobili 31
Finley 36
Bonner 33
Hill 23

Avg age of Top 9 is 30.4 and that's now - not playoff time.

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Is he 33??? WTF

I stand corrected. Looked at the wrong column - he's 29

Parker 27
Mason 28
Jefferson 29
Duncan 33
McDyess 34

Ginobili 31
Finley 36
Bonner 29
Hill 23

Avg age of Top 9 is now an even 30 and that's now - not playoff time.

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Originally Posted by 2Cleva

Parker 27
Mason 28
Jefferson 29
Duncan 33
McDyess 34

Ginobili 31
Finley 36
Bonner 33
Hill 23

Avg age of Top 9 is 30.4 and that's now - not playoff time.

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We were a lot older in '07

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Originally Posted by 2Cleva

Parker 27
Mason 28
Jefferson 29
Duncan 33
McDyess 34

Ginobili 31
Finley 36
Bonner 33
Hill 23

Avg age of Top 9 is 30.4 and that's now - not playoff time.

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Being a Laker fan you dont know the rest of the team like we do. You dont know if Bonner or even Finley will still be here or on the active roster...AND being a Laker fan I see you didnt include the Spurs young guns in Mahinmi, Blair, McClinton, Gist, Haislip, and Hairston. 3, 4 hell even all of these guys may make the roster for all we know...so you cant really be averaging out the ages right now when you dont know who will make the final roster.

what is the average age of the lakers
33?

how does Marion help the Mavs, let alone make them better. The biggest advantages the Mavs had were Devin Harris, Avery Johnson and a hurt Manu and Timmy.

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Originally Posted by 2Cleva

Parker 27
Mason 28
Jefferson 29
Duncan 33
McDyess 34

Ginobili 31
Finley 36
Bonner 33
Hill 23

Avg age of Top 9 is 30.4 and that's now - not playoff time.

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You gave Matt Bonner an extra 4 years.

I guess his athleticism or lack thereof makes him play like a 33 year old?

By playoff time, Bonner will be 30, Duncan will be 34, and Dyess will be 35.

That's an OLD frontline - no matter how you cut it.

Haislip and Blair will try to get them through the regular season but considering their histories (one been out the league, the other doesn't have ACLs) but you're rolling the dice on some oldheads holding down the fort in the middle.

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Originally Posted by 2Cleva

Parker 27
Mason 28
Jefferson 29
Duncan 33
McDyess 34

Ginobili 31
Finley 36
Bonner 29
Hill 23

Avg age of Top 9 is 30.4 and that's now - not playoff time.

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Fixed a little
Looks like a perfect mix of talent, experience, and youth to an objective eye.

Somehow Mason (28) is going to go from 30 mpg to zero lakerfan?

Is lies!

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Originally Posted by crc21209

Being a Laker fan you dont know the rest of the team like we do. You dont know if Bonner or even Finley will still be here or on the active roster...AND being a Laker fan I see you didnt include the Spurs young guns in Mahinmi, Blair, McClinton, Gist, Haislip, and Hairston. 3, 4 hell even all of these guys may make the roster for all we know...so you cant really be averaging out the ages right now when you dont know who will make the final roster.

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Laker fan or not - I know basketball.

I know Pop played Finley last year no matter what - I see no reason for that to change.

I see a bunch of young guys who've done nothing in the league and considering the traditionalist of the Spurs, would have to play at damn near All-Star level to get meaningful minutes in the clutch. Ya'll was almost eliminated before Pop rolled the dice with Hill (way too late).

Unless the Spurs make another trade - Pop is going with what he knows and those 9 are it.

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Originally Posted by 2Cleva

I need to change my drawers.

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Originally Posted by 2Cleva

Unless the Spurs make another trade - Pop is going with what he knows and those 9 are it.

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And there's little, if any problem with that.

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Originally Posted by 2Cleva

Laker fan or not - I know basketball.

I know Pop played Finley last year no matter what - I see no reason for that to change.

I see a bunch of young guys who've done nothing in the league and considering the traditionalist of the Spurs, would have to play at damn near All-Star level to get meaningful minutes in the clutch. Ya'll was almost eliminated before Pop rolled the dice with Hill (way too late).

Unless the Spurs make another trade - Pop is going with what he knows and those 9 are it.

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Riiight. I'm sorry...you know SOOO much more than I do and talk to Pop every day. :rolleyes

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Originally Posted by 2Cleva

Laker fan or not - I know basketball.

I know Pop played Finley last year no matter what - I see no reason for that to change.
I see a bunch of young guys who've done nothing in the league and considering the traditionalist of the Spurs, would have to play at damn near All-Star level to get meaningful minutes in the clutch. Ya'll was almost eliminated before Pop rolled the dice with Hill (way too late).

Unless the Spurs make another trade - Pop is going with what he knows and those 9 are it.

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Richard Jefferson.

Doy.

In all Honesty this feels a lot like '03 - several risks bneing taken - new athletic 3 who can score, lakers fresh off a title and suddenly incinvible...

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Originally Posted by 2Cleva

Laker fan or not - I know basketball.

I know Pop played Finley last year no matter what - I see no reason for that to change.

I see a bunch of young guys who've done nothing in the league and considering the traditionalist of the Spurs, would have to play at damn near All-Star level to get meaningful minutes in the clutch. Ya'll was almost eliminated before Pop rolled the dice with Hill (way too late).

Unless the Spurs make another trade - Pop is going with what he knows and those 9 are it.

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pop may go with vets after allstar break
but he will play the newbies right away and save the vets for playoffs

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Originally Posted by 2Cleva

Laker fan or not - I know basketball.

I know Bonner is 33.

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Originally Posted by 2Cleva

Laker fan or not - I know basketball.

I know Pop played Finley last year no matter what - I see no reason for that to change.

I see a bunch of young guys who've done nothing in the league and considering the traditionalist of the Spurs, would have to play at damn near All-Star level to get meaningful minutes in the clutch. Ya'll was almost eliminated before Pop rolled the dice with Hill (way too late).

Unless the Spurs make another trade - Pop is going with what he knows and those 9 are it.

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I'll take our bench: Hill, Mason, Finley, Bonner, Blair, McClinton? Haislip? Hairston? and any other young gun who makes the roster > Vujacic, Farmar, Walton, Mbenga, Powell ANY day.

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Originally Posted by galvatron3000

how does Marion help the Mavs, let alone make them better. The biggest advantages the Mavs had were Devin Harris, Avery Johnson and a hurt Manu and Timmy.

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Marion certainly makes the mavs more talented, but I'm curious how all that is going to fit together. To me it looks like Cuban is playing fantasy basketball again. But who knows, Carlyle is a good coach maybe he'll find a way to make it work.

Hey Guys did I introduce you to one of my new bitches after Ariza left LAX?

Just in case, meet 2Cleva one of my new ho's...

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Originally Posted by 2Cleva

I see a bunch of young guys who've done nothing in the league and considering the traditionalist of the Spurs, would have to play at damn near All-Star level to get meaningful minutes in the clutch. Ya'll was almost eliminated before Pop rolled the dice with Hill (way too late)

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Look for the Spurs to make one more move to bring in a vet Big, then let's see what everyone thinks.

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Originally Posted by ducks

what is the average age of the lakers
33?

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For the top of the rotation

Fisher 34
Bryant 30
Artest 29
Gasol 29
Bynum 21

Odom 29
Walton 29
Farmar 22
Brown 23

Avg age 27.3 as of now.

They do have a core who will be 30+ come playoff time as well, so the facts don't support the "old Spurs", "young Lakers" argument.

Perception makes the difference because the Spurs have been consistently injury hobbled the last few years, specifically the foundations of the teams (Kobe/Duncan).

Everyone knows Kobe will be ready to go 100% come playoff time. No one would bet the same for Duncan.

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Originally Posted by 2Cleva

Parker 27
Mason 28
Jefferson 29
Duncan 33
McDyess 34

Ginobili 31
Finley 36
Bonner 33
Hill 23

Avg age of Top 9 is 30.4 and that's now - not playoff time.

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Convenient decision to use Finley in the top 9 instead of Blair or Mahinmi. Blair and/or Mahinmi, and maybe even Haislip or Hairston, will likely log more minutes than Fin this season.

Substituting Blair for Fin, the Spurs average age is 28.7. Substituting Ian instead, their average is 28.9.

With the recent roster changes, the Spurs collective age is no longer concerning in and of itself, it's only the recent injury history of Duncan and Ginobili that is troublesome.

ChumpDumper - You don't see Mason? Get your glasses fixed. I admitted my mistake on Bonner, due catch up.

ducks - agreed on the rotations by Pop. SA's problems isn't due to wear and tear in the season, its the cumulative wear and tear over the years for Duncan.

crc21209 - you listed all of SA's bench but missed the key part of LA's. Assuming LO is back, that's checkmate.

SuperDave - can't put a rookie in the rotation off the bat considering the Spurs history. Can't take Finley out for the same reasons.