Re: TP9's assists in 09-10
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exstatic
It's better for our offense if the ball moves around between more than one player. When you depend on a dominant PG ball handler, you leave yourself open to the ball being trapped out of his hands in big games or the playoffs, and the offense getting out of sorts and having to adapt on the fly. If you have three guys all creating and scoring all year long, they don't have anything to pin down and take away from you.
Tony's assists going down is not a bad thing. Not at all. As long as team assists go up, that's what makes the offense go. Realistically, in most years other than last year, the only thing that differentiates Tony from the other guards is he is the one that brings the ball up the floor. If you watch a lot of the games, you'll find that probably 3/4 of the time, he dumps the ball to a big man at the top of the 3 point circle, and starts moving and cutting just like Manu and whatever other wing player is on the floor. He may not touch the ball again that possession or he may get it back and score or find another cutter. It's a cut, read and react offense. If you find someone playing you on the high side, you cut straight to the hoop, receiving a pass for an easy layup. As fast as Tony is, and he's probably in the top 2-3 in the league, he'll never be faster than a good crisp pass from the 3 point line to a cutter in the paint.
Of course ball movement is key but don't forget about fast breaks or 3 on 2's. Defense will take away the drive from Tony leaving RJ others trailing. You can't have perfect ball movement every play because you have exploit mismatches. Tony will handle the ball the same and you do realize we are talking about a 2 assist difference per game. We are basically agreeing :lol
Re: TP9's assists in 09-10
but who ever is right its still a positive for The Spurs
Re: TP9's assists in 09-10
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Originally Posted by
ORION
Of course ball movement is key but don't forget about fast breaks or 3 on 2's. Defense will take away the drive from Tony leaving RJ others trailing. You can't have perfect ball movement every play because you have exploit mismatches. Tony will handle the ball the same and you do realize we are talking about a 2 assist difference per game. We are basically agreeing :lol
His previous assist high was 6.1. Under EXTRAORDINARY circumstances last year, he pumped that up by 0.8. You're proposing that it's going to jump ANOTHER 1.1 assists. I don't think we're agreeing, but that's OK. :lol
Re: TP9's assists in 09-10
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Originally Posted by
exstatic
His previous assist high was 6.1. Under EXTRAORDINARY circumstances last year, he pumped that up by 0.8. You're proposing that it's going to jump ANOTHER 1.1 assists. I don't think we're agreeing, but that's OK. :lol
agree as far as not dropping or increasing too much
Re: TP9's assists in 09-10
just curious though, do you run point ?
Re: TP9's assists in 09-10
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ORION
just curious though, do you run point ?
Nope, but I'm a student of the game. I often isolate one player on a trip or a few trips down the floor and just watch what they do.
Re: TP9's assists in 09-10
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exstatic
Nope, but I'm a student of the game. I often isolate one player on a trip or a few trips down the floor and just watch what they do.
I knew it! You would make a great coach and that's why we are disagreeing because I play point and I like to draw the double and find the open man even though some guys do not know what to do after the pass. You should look into coaching kids because the kids I've seen play lately need help.
Re: TP9's assists in 09-10
I'd expect his minutes and assists to go down slightly for reasons many have already stated.Nash wouldn't average more assists in our system.
Re: TP9's assists in 09-10
Considering the last 10+ apg PG with a ring is Magic.
Considering the Lakers and Magic (but also Denver or Cleveland) don't have a passing PG.
Considering Boston was NBA champ with a 10 pts-5 ast Rondo and not with a 12 pt-8ast one.
I hope TP assists will be the same, somewhere between 5.5 and 6.5.
Only the team's assists should matter, individual assists number is probably the most overrated statistic.
Re: TP9's assists in 09-10
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mathbzh
Considering the last 10+ apg PG with a ring is Magic.
Considering the Lakers and Magic (but also Denver or Cleveland) don't have a passing PG.
Considering Boston was NBA champ with a 10 pts-5 ast Rondo and not with a 12 pt-8ast one.
I hope TP assists will be the same, somewhere between 5.5 and 6.5.
Only the team's assists should matter, individual assists number is probably the most overrated statistic.
:toast
Re: TP9's assists in 09-10
I think Parker's teammates will dribble more, so less assists. Sheed would have received more assists than McDyess.
OTOH, I expect Hill to increase his assists, because he'll get a greater share of Finley and Bonner, and maybe McClinton.
BTW, assists in the NBA is somewhat stupid stat even ignoring dribbles. It's often the earlier pass in a sequence that's more important.
Re: TP9's assists in 09-10
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exstatic
Do you people realize that Tony had his career high in assists with 6.9 last year, almost a full assist better than his previous high of 6.1? That's a monster number in a motion offense.
We didnt have a motion offense last year, thats why he got so many assist.
