lol, I was kind of curious the first time I went to HEB too. That was a long time ago though.
07-10-2009
poeticism707
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
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Originally Posted by DMX7
lol, I was kind of curious the first time I went to HEB too. That was a long time ago though.
I'm joking but I don't live in San Antonio, and I've NEVER been to San Antonio, so I have no idea what HEB stands for.
I've seen the commercials online, but what the acronym means continues to elude me.
Perhaps it is an unanswerable mystery.
07-10-2009
Buddy Holly
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
I didn't use that smiley because I thought it was funny he didn't know what it stood for. I just found it a funny question to ask.
07-10-2009
Buddy Holly
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
As for what it means, it's just the initials of the founder of the company. H.E. Butt. Seriously.
07-10-2009
EricB
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
or perhaps its the initials of the man that created the grocery?
07-10-2009
poeticism707
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy Holly
I didn't you that smiley because I thought it was funny he didn't know what it stood for. I just found it funny he asked what it meant.
:king
Side note, I like smileys! Such simple and effective communication!
07-10-2009
DMX7
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
It actually stands for Howard E. Butt Grocery Store. I think its actually in the top 10 largest private companies in America.
07-10-2009
poeticism707
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricB
or perhaps its the initials of the man that created the grocery?
Horrendus Ewak Biscuit?
07-10-2009
fleggy2k2
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by poeticism707
I'm joking but I don't live in San Antonio, and I've NEVER been to San Antonio, so I have no idea what HEB stands for.
I've seen the commercials online, but what the acronym means continues to elude me.
Perhaps it is an unanswerable mystery.
stands for H.E. Butt, for the family's last name.
but also means Here Everything's Better, concerning marketing and whatnot
the heb's in san antonio own all over the ones where i live in corpus christi btw. out of the 5 or so that are here, our only good one is comparable to one of yall's average ones.
07-10-2009
Buddy Holly
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Though the company now uses it to stand for Here Everything's Better. They pulled a BP.
07-10-2009
bdictjames
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Haha. You learn something new every day.
07-10-2009
poeticism707
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by fleggy2k2
stands for H.E. Butt, for the family's last name.
but also means Here Everything's Better, concerning marketing and whatnot
the heb's in san antonio own all over the ones where i live in corpus christi btw. out of the 5 or so that are here, our only good one is comparable to one of yall's average ones.
Far West Side is a large area (includes Westover Hills) and includes the HEB at 1604 and Culebra as well as the HEB Plus at 1604 and Potranco. There's also an HEB planned for Potranco and 211.
Gawd. This guy can flat out score. I should have watched more Miami man. Every type of way you can score, this kid can do it.
Please, please do not change. Play with the same attitude and swag.
07-10-2009
raspsa
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Yeah, he just lets it fly.. the guy has no conscience. He won't have any problem adjusting to the NBA distance, some of those shots were a yard beyond the NBA arc. I was hoping to get a glimpse of his defensive skill but will probably have to wait for summer league for that.
07-10-2009
EmantheSpursFan
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Not exactly the way he shoots but the quickness of his release reminds me of Reggie Miller!
07-10-2009
Buddy Holly
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Imagine having Manu, Mason, Jefferson and McClinton out there for a last second play. :wow:wow:wow
07-10-2009
Libri
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy Holly
Far West Side is a large area (includes Westover Hills) and includes the HEB at 1604 and Culebra as well as the HEB Plus at 1604 and Potranco. There's also an HEB planned for Potranco and 211.
I haven't gone to some of those. I will check them out next time I'm in the area. :toast
07-10-2009
Man In Black
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
That J is deadly. Close or far, it doesn't matter. It's easy to him. Back in the day, there was this player that played for the Seattle Supersonics. Instant Offense. His name was Downtown Fred Brown. With the way that McClinton shoot's these, downtown might actually be a little close.
07-10-2009
Vic Petro
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
I kept hearing him compared to Eddie House, but Eddie always struck me as a Ron Mercer-type who learned to play within a system and extend his range to the NBA 3-point line.
I don't recall House having range anywhere near this.
07-10-2009
VivaPopovich
lol Jack McClinton just responded to me on twitter Part II
I kept hearing him compared to Eddie House, but Eddie always struck me as a Ron Mercer-type who learned to play within a system and extend his range to the NBA 3-point line.
I don't recall House having range anywhere near this.
House has always had range. I remember seeing him when he first came into the league with the Heat...he would pull up from anywhere.
07-10-2009
DPG21920
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Jack seems to have better handles than House and has a little more quickness. His step back jumper is nasty.
07-10-2009
timvp
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
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Originally Posted by __JaG__
House has always had range. I remember seeing him when he first came into the league with the Heat...he would pull up from anywhere.
Yeah, House has always been a gunner. One of the most impressive scoring outbursts I ever saw on any level was House going for 61 in college.
McClinton plays like a House clone. They have almost the same shot.
07-10-2009
DPG21920
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Ya, their shot is very similar. Very quick release off of that quick bounce step.
07-10-2009
Vic Petro
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
If he can be a pest on defense he's got a shot at minutes.
07-10-2009
DPG21920
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
I personally don't give a damn about his defense. I just want him to come out firing and not turn the ball over. If he can shoot like he did in college, that would be a very nice weapon.
Any defense is just gravy. But he was drafted to score. I do not care how good he defends, if he is not hitting shots, he will not make it in the NBA. If he hits his shots and scores in spurts like he can and does not defend at all, he will have a good shot.
07-10-2009
timvp
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Eddie House as a senior
37.2 minutes
23.0 points
42.2% field goal
36.5% three-point
73 3PM
83.5% free throw
3.5 assists
2.2 turnovers
2.3 steals
Jack McClinton as a senior
32.2 minutes
19.3 points
44.9% field goal
45.3% three-point
101 3PM
88.5% free throw
2.8 assists
2.6 turnovers
0.8 steals
It's going to be interesting to see if McClinton can keep up his Eddie House type play in the NBA.
07-10-2009
DPG21920
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Strange to see that AST/TO ratio so much in Eddie's favor. It seems that Jack has the better handles from what I have seen?
07-10-2009
Blackjack
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by __JaG__
House has always had range. I remember seeing him when he first came into the league with the Heat...he would pull up from anywhere.
Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Yeah, House has always been a gunner. One of the most impressive scoring outbursts I ever saw on any level was House going for 61 in college.
McClinton plays like a House clone. They have almost the same shot.
Those are the two things that come to my mind when thinking of House.
I remember seeing him in Miami coming off the bench and just going off.
There's getting into the zone and then there's something that very few others do. I'm not sure what the hell it's called or how the hell they get there, but House has visited it more than a time or two.
The 61 timvp mentioned was one of the most absurd things I've ever seen. Hell, 40 in the college game is almost unheard of.:wow
07-10-2009
J.T.
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
I thought about getting a dog and naming it Scooby. Now I should name it Jack?
07-10-2009
timvp
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Eddie House Combine Measurements
5-foot-11.75 - Height (no shoes)
6-foot-3.5 - Wingspan
38.5 - Max Vertical
11-foot-1.5 - Max Vertical Reach
Jack McClinton Combine Measurements
5-foot-11.75 - Height (no shoes)
6-foot-2.5 - Wingspan
36.5 - Max Vertical
11-foot-0.5 - Max Vertical Reach
Pretty damn similar. Same exact height is pretty funny. House is slightly longer and slightly more athletic.
It goes to show how athletic NBA players are that House is considered unathletic and he damn near has a 40" vertical :lol
07-10-2009
Buddy Holly
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Jack definitely beats House in the muscle category. That helps when he drives the ball.
07-10-2009
Blackjack
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Eddie House as a senior
37.2 minutes
23.0 points
42.2% field goal
36.5% three-point
73 3PM
83.5% free throw
3.5 assists
2.2 turnovers
2.3 steals
Jack McClinton as a senior
32.2 minutes
19.3 points
44.9% field goal
45.3% three-point
101 3PM
88.5% free throw
2.8 assists
2.6 turnovers
0.8 steals
It's going to be interesting to see if McClinton can keep up his Eddie House type play in the NBA.
It's not hard to see why the comparisons are drawn, and he's coming to the right kind of team for him to have a chance to succeed.
He's got a coach who wants his point to shoot the ball and plenty distractions for a defense to give him the kind of looks to punish the opponent.
If he starts saving the day with 3-point bombs in the clutch, I'm suggesting the nickname Jack "Bower" McClinton.:hat
07-10-2009
DPG21920
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
If we could only get the "24" second shot clock to make that beeping noise....
07-10-2009
Blackjack
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Like what you did there...:lol
07-10-2009
poeticism707
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy Holly
Imagine having Manu, Mason, Jefferson and McClinton out there for a last second play. :wow:wow:wow
:toast
07-10-2009
DPG21920
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07-10-2009
poeticism707
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Eddie House as a senior
37.2 minutes
23.0 points
42.2% field goal
36.5% three-point
73 3PM
83.5% free throw
3.5 assists
2.2 turnovers
2.3 steals
Jack McClinton as a senior
32.2 minutes
19.3 points
44.9% field goal
45.3% three-point
101 3PM
88.5% free throw
2.8 assists
2.6 turnovers
0.8 steals
It's going to be interesting to see if McClinton can keep up his Eddie House type play in the NBA.
Excellent work!
07-10-2009
Vic Petro
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
I just don't remember House's shot extending out quite as far as McClinton's. He's going to get open shots this year, so we'll see if he can hang.
07-10-2009
poeticism707
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vic Petro
I just don't remember House's shot extending out quite as far as McClinton's. He's going to get open shots this year, so we'll see if he can hang.
I hope he hits them a nice clip at close to 50%!
He can save the Spurs bacon, the way Steve Kerr did in the 2003 Western Conference Finals against the Mavs!
Let's go McClinton!
07-10-2009
Blackjack
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
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Originally Posted by DPG21920
They've got to work that into the in-house shtick at the AT&T, if he makes the team.
Damn, I hope he makes it..
07-10-2009
kace
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
well, he shouldn't have any problem with the range for his 3's.
but his way of shooting seems not really perfect for a little guy with no size.
sometimes in this video, he seems to shoot it in front of him more than above him. less far from his defendor and less high than if he shot it more above his head.
His quick release should help though.
07-10-2009
crc21209
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
WOW. :wow. I had never seen THOSE youtube highlights of Jack. But man...hopefully this kid is on the damn active roster. He is a straight up gunner and I love it. FEARLESS.
07-10-2009
jag
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Pretty damn similar. Same exact height is pretty funny. House is slightly longer and slightly more athletic.
It goes to show how athletic NBA players are that House is considered unathletic and he damn near has a 40" vertical :lol
I think that's mostly cause he always looks out of shape. It doesn't really look like he's keeping up with the cardio...but as long as he can go off for 20+ pts out of nowhere, i guess he doesn't have to look like a Greek god.
07-10-2009
bigdog
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Holy shit, that's the first time I've seen those highlights of Jack. He's absolutely sick. His release is super quick, and it looks like he was put on this planet to shoot the rock. I hope he makes this team. They make it seem like he will be on the team.
07-10-2009
raspsa
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
I personally don't give a damn about his defense. I just want him to come out firing and not turn the ball over. If he can shoot like he did in college, that would be a very nice weapon.
Any defense is just gravy. But he was drafted to score. I do not care how good he defends, if he is not hitting shots, he will not make it in the NBA. If he hits his shots and scores in spurts like he can and does not defend at all, he will have a good shot.
With Pop, its the other way around.. the kid won't be on the court long if he can't hold his own on defense.
His range is mid way half court, off the dribble, off a screen, going left, going right, step back left, step back right, taller player with hand almost on the ball, taller player with hand covering his eyes, shorter faster player chasing him around screens, going to the basket because everyone is so afraid of the jumper, defenders overreacting to every fake because of the threat of the jumper FROM ANYWHERE, sets his feet and releases AS FAST AS I'VE SEEN ANYONE DO IT, is fearless and doesn't care a lick about bad shots, just man. This guy is AMAZING.
Can you imagine him shooting spot up threes for the well spaced Spurs, as fast as he shoots them?!? With Duncan in the block? Or running him off screens a la Rip Hamilton?
Sure, they'll post him at the other end, the Spurs would help out which would get the other teams some shots, but if he brought what he did in college...heck, if he brought HALF OF WHAT HE DID IN COLLEGE, it be EASILY WORTH IT.
Also, he set his teammates up PLENTY from the point often times because everyone was so terrified of his jumper, it was easy for him to penetrate and get others involved.
If he shows this to Pop in the Summer League, POP HAD BETTER FIND A WAY TO GET HIM IN THE GAME FROM GAME 1 OF THE SEASON.
This guy could very well be the BEST SHOOTER IN SPURS HISTORY: AND THAT INCLUDES STEVE KERR!!!
Can you imagine how many titles the Spurs would have if it were this guy shooting, instead of BRENT BARRY AND BONNER?!?!?!?!?!
I'm not saying he'll be the MVP or anything, but with Duncan and the spacing of the Spurs, this guy could be a KILLER.
Can you imagine Lakers trying to guard him with some 6'7 230 lb person chasing him off screens?!?!?
He would eat them alive.
Unless he forgets how to be confident and shoot the ball, only wants to collect money from the Spurs and go home without playing a single game, Pop had better find a way to GET THIS GUY SOME MINUTES.
07-10-2009
timvp
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Brakes, pump them.
07-10-2009
poeticism707
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Brakes, pump them.
:lol
All I'm saying is that if he shows the same things in SL, Pop had better get him some time.
That's it!:toast
07-10-2009
Buddy Holly
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Jack "Boogie Man" McClinton.
07-10-2009
DBMethos
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Wow, he really doesn't need much daylight to get a shot off, does he? Mad range.
07-10-2009
Mr. Body
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Can he hit cold off the bench?
Can he hit in small minutes?
07-10-2009
ploto
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
In parts of the country, Heb or Hebe is a racial slur. I know people who have been shocked when they first came to SA and saw the signs.
07-10-2009
Stringer_Bell
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Wow.
Just saw the highlight vid, and even those it's a highlight vid, I can't remember the last time I saw 9 minutes of ANYONE continuously dropping 3s down each defender's throat. What I like most is that he and Blair have the same mentality when it comes to their jobs...Blair gets rebounds no matter who else is jumping and McClinton shoots no matter who is defending. The only downside is he might be too aggressive and not milk the shot clock enough, so hopefully he can pull off the same percentages with our system.
Regardless, if he plays good defense, Pop might just let him light up the opposing team's bench. BANG BANG! :ihit
Yeah. He looks comfortable pulling up fro 28 ft. That's just sick.
07-10-2009
lurker23
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
If he gets a training camp invite, he'd better make the 15-man roster. With that kind of shooting ability, if we relinquish our rights to him, he'll be scooped up within the month. I say sign the man to a two year minimum contract, throw him in Austin if there's no spot for him in SA, and let's see what he can do with the NBA 3-point line.
As a side note, obviously his shooting range is on display in those highlights, but the thing that impressed me most is his great awareness of where he is on the court. If you watch, any time he's on the move, he shoots a lot either 2 feet in front of the 3-point line, or a few inches behind it. No toes on the line, no heels on the line. That kind of awareness is huge, and can significantly help your efficiency and FG%.
07-10-2009
tav1
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stringer_Bell
Wow.
Just saw the highlight vid, and even those it's a highlight vid, I can't remember the last time I saw 9 minutes of ANYONE continuously dropping 3s down each defender's throat. What I like most is that he and Blair have the same mentality when it comes to their jobs...Blair gets rebounds no matter who else is jumping and McClinton shoots no matter who is defending. The only downside is he might be too aggressive and not milk the shot clock enough, so hopefully he can pull off the same percentages with our system.
Regardless, if he plays good defense, Pop might just let him light up the opposing team's bench. BANG BANG! :ihit
If the Spurs had a dead eye shooting forward, such as James Jones, they could run little stints of McClinton, Mason Jr, Jones, Haislip/Bonner, and Duncan. That would be fun garbage time.
07-10-2009
YODA
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy Holly
Far West Side is a large area (includes Westover Hills) and includes the HEB at 1604 and Culebra as well as the HEB Plus at 1604 and Potranco. There's also an HEB planned for Potranco and 211.
Was that suppose to be Portranco and 151???
07-10-2009
xmas1997
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
HEB stands for Henry Edward Butt, owner of HEB food stores.
07-10-2009
YODA
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
On another note, anyone notice that about 30% of his shots, he has his right foot like a full step in front of him, another 50% of the shots he had his right foot is slightly in front of him. I just thought it was odd he could make these shots with one foot in front. Thats alot of shots made shooting that way...unreal.
Dont you all kind of see him like a Bruce, Ferry style player, jsut waiting for set up shots???Whats good is he cold actually drive a little for a mid range shot and not be married to 3 pointers.
Only negative I could see is I think he will get blocked alot in the NBA. His style of driving and how he shoots layups will hurt him a little.
Yoda
07-10-2009
urunobili
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
If he makes the team I'll buy his jersey :tu
07-10-2009
rascal
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by fleggy2k2
stands for H.E. Butt, for the family's last name.
but also means Here Everything's Better, concerning marketing and whatnot
the heb's in san antonio own all over the ones where i live in corpus christi btw. out of the 5 or so that are here, our only good one is comparable to one of yall's average ones.
yall's? You a red neck?
07-10-2009
Cheddz
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
My son loves Scooby Doo fruit snax.
07-10-2009
Buddy Holly
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by YODA
Was that suppose to be Portranco and 151???
No.
07-10-2009
Chieflion
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
I have never been so mesmerised by a player mix before. The guy got game.
07-10-2009
Shastafarian
Re: lol Jack McClinton just responded to me on twitter Part II
as a side note, obviously his shooting range is on display in those highlights, but the thing that impressed me most is his great awareness of where he is on the court. If you watch, any time he's on the move, he shoots a lot either 2 feet in front of the 3-point line, or a few inches behind it. No toes on the line, no heels on the line. That kind of awareness is huge, and can significantly help your efficiency and fg%.
I'm still wondering how a kid with that kind of skill fell so far in the draft. Between him and Blair it appears that the Spurs robbed the rest of the league.
07-10-2009
loveforthegame
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
Nice video.
I'm still wondering how a kid with that kind of skill fell so far in the draft. Between him and Blair it appears that the Spurs robbed the rest of the league.
On draft night I believe they mentioned the Knicks were going to take him with the 29th pick but Toney Douglas had slipped and they drafted him instead.
07-10-2009
YODA
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy Holly
Far West Side is a large area (includes Westover Hills) and includes the HEB at 1604 and Culebra as well as the HEB Plus at 1604 and Potranco. There's also an HEB planned for Potranco and 211.
Where is 211?
07-10-2009
poeticism707
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
Nice video.
I'm still wondering how a kid with that kind of skill fell so far in the draft. Between him and Blair it appears that the Spurs robbed the rest of the league.
Agreed. Between Blair and McClinton, the Spurs ROBBED the rest of the league!
07-10-2009
objective
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by YODA
Where is 211?
isn't that out where Citibank is?
There won't be anyone to buy anything at an HEB once Citibank finishes laying everyone off.
07-10-2009
wildbill2u
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Damn, I believe he's got the NBA 3 shot range down, going for the all-alien world league range.
07-10-2009
rascal
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
I personally don't give a damn about his defense. I just want him to come out firing and not turn the ball over. If he can shoot like he did in college, that would be a very nice weapon.
Any defense is just gravy. But he was drafted to score. I do not care how good he defends, if he is not hitting shots, he will not make it in the NBA. If he hits his shots and scores in spurts like he can and does not defend at all, he will have a good shot.
Agree with you. He was not drafted for his defense but his deadly shooting ability. If he shows he is a deadly 3 point threat Pop will find a way to play him.
07-10-2009
rascal
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by poeticism707
Agreed. Between Blair and McClinton, the Spurs ROBBED the rest of the league!
Temper the expectations. I like both but if you look at the other top players drafted highlight reel highlights they look good too.
07-10-2009
poeticism707
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
Quote:
Originally Posted by rascal
Agree with you. He was not drafted for his defense but his deadly shooting ability. If he shows he is a deadly 3 point threat Pop will find a way to play him.
Man, he is was mean looking dude. I'm talking MSNBC "Prison Lockdown" Mean. He could be our 6'1'' Enforcer. :lol
07-10-2009
Dunc n Dave
Re: Jack McClinton's new nick: Scooby Doo
It stands for Howard E Butt.
The original owners , Charles C Butt and Florence Butt named the store after there son Howard E Butt back in 1905 when the first store was in Kerville.